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It was dusk as the lead police car approached the crossroads at the centre of Meigh village close to the border in south Armagh. It was one of four PSNI vehicles in the vicinity, on routine calls in the area on Friday evening. In the fading light, the constable driving saw three men standing in the middle of the road. He was 100 yards from the crossroads when it became clear that the men were masked and carrying rifles. The officer stopped. The dissident republicans mounting the illegal checkpoint may not have realised that the unmarked car was a police vehicle. The BBC subsequently established that there had been at least seven terrorists, maybe more. Six were carrying machine guns, the other is said to have had a rocket launcher and they were handing out leaflets warning people against co-operating with the security forces on either side of the border. As one of the gunmen waved for the police to come on, the officer radioed his colleagues what he had seen, turned and drove out of the area. The four police cars met up a short distance away and returned to their base in Newry. In the intervening few days there has been much public debate about whether the patrol did the right thing by withdrawing. Some have suggested that the police should have moved in and arrested the gang. Others have concluded that that would have led to a gunfight in the middle of the village with potentially disastrous consequences for civilians and police alike. There had been eight officers in total on the patrol, two women and six men, both full time and reserve, two to each car. I met one of them on Tuesday after they agreed to give the BBC an account of their experience in south Armagh last Friday night. 'Vulnerable'The person I spoke to is a police officer with experience of pre and post ceasefire policing. The patrol was on routine calls and had no advance warning that they might run into a dissident IRA checkpoint. The officer I spoke to said he feels let down. "I've never felt as vulnerable. After many years service in some sticky areas, I've never felt as vulnerable and so bereft of support," he said. "There was a lack of intelligence support, a lack of training. We should have known and been looked after more, but I felt isolated." When the officer refers to lack of training, they are talking about anti-ambush training, and training in the use of rifles. There were rifles in the police cars, but not all officers would have had up to date training in how to use them. That is because, it has been claimed, Full Time Reserve Officers are not getting all the refresher training they need because ultimately the reserve is being phased outThe qualification to use a rifle is time limited, and in the case of at least some of the officers on Friday night that time would have expired. If it had come to it, some of the police would have had to rely on their handguns in a fire fight with men carrying automatic rifles and a rocket propelled grenade launcher. The odds would have been heavily weighted in favour of the dissidents. There has been much speculation about why the officers who spotted the gunmen in Meigh did not wait for reinforcements before confronting them. The officer I spoke to said that is because the eight officers on patrol that night was virtually the full compliment of police available in the whole of south Armagh on Friday night. There is a marked police car operating in Newry, but it mostly deals with calls in the city itself. There is also an armed response unit, the Special Operations Branch, which would be fully trained in anti-terrorist techniques, but its nearest base is some distance away, so unless they had already been in the area, it would have taken some time for them to reach the border, had the incident escalated into a gunfight. "We were expected to replace maybe up to a thousand soldiers in places like south Armagh at the turn of a page," the officer said. "I'm not saying we should have the Army back. But I believe the dissidents are more and more confident and capable of mounting these operations in border areas. "We get briefings that they have a heavy machine gun, Semtex and other weaponry. They're building themselves up and we're being scaled back." The qualification to use a rifle is time limited, and in the case of at least some of the officers on Friday night that time would have expired. If it had come to it, some of the police would have had to rely on their handguns in a fire fight with men carrying automatic rifles and a rocket propelled grenade launcher. The odds would have been heavily weighted in favour of the dissidents. There has been much speculation about why the officers who spotted the gunmen in Meigh did not wait for reinforcements before confronting them. The officer I spoke to said that is because the eight officers on patrol that night was virtually the full compliment of police available in the whole of south Armagh on Friday night. There is a marked police car operating in Newry, but it mostly deals with calls in the city itself. There is also an armed response unit, the Special Operations Branch, which would be fully trained in anti-terrorist techniques, but its nearest base is some distance away, so unless they had already been in the area, it would have taken some time for them to reach the border, had the incident escalated into a gunfight. "We were expected to replace maybe up to a thousand soldiers in places like south Armagh at the turn of a page," the officer said. "I'm not saying we should have the Army back. But I believe the dissidents are more and more confident and capable of mounting these operations in border areas. "We get briefings that they have a heavy machine gun, Semtex and other weaponry. They're building themselves up and we're being scaled back."
lol @ 8 police doing a job 2000 soldiers were doing 10 years ago
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lol @ taking life for a FPS gamehow can man have a grenade launcher ... lol this cant be life

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JeezIreland is different stil
ThisProper backward in some places
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Gully man shanker and the rocket propelled grenade gang.

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i can just imagine the guys with the weapons just here the breathing noise from goldeneye on n64 when they get hit

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lol @ taking life for a FPS gamehow can man have a grenade launcher ... lol this cant be life
dem Perk 1's dere
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hard to believe these guys are jus round the corner

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Theres a Mosque round the corner from me stil

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They've been on this ting from early. London/Manchester council estates are bad but trust me, you do not want to turn onto the wrong street in N.Ireland.

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They've been on this ting from early. London/Manchester council estates are bad but trust me, you do not want to turn onto the wrong street in N.Ireland.
lolparts of the north of ireland are out of control at the moment
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lol grenade launcher, he is slackin cos its all about the plasma gun that you get from the other side of the level.

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lol grenade launcher, he is slackin cos its all about the plasma gun that you get from the other side of the level.
This reminds me of Quake 4, the longest. Game. Ever.
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i would be cool because i look like a tewwowist toohahaha, all the cunts that were calling me bin laden in school get shot up by IRA and im chilling with Sinn Fein

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bare failed fps jokesman is lookin on in disgust right abaat now

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bare failed fps jokesman is lookin on in disgust right abaat now
Wheres your fps jokes dough bread?I don't see none...
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Riots in Belfast last night and the night before as well

Three people have been arrested after a second night of disturbances in east Belfast on Tuesday.A number of petrol bombs and other missiles were thrown at police at the Albertbridge Road and Mountpottinger interface. The people were arrested for riotous behaviour, possession of a petrol bomb and disorderly behaviour. One officer received an injury to his face. Police said calm was restored by 0230 BST on Wednesday. On Monday night, up to 200 people assembled in the area after a Sinn Fein event to mark the closure of Mountpottinger Police Station. Police officers fired plastic baton rounds to break up the trouble between groups of nationalist and loyalist youths. Area Commander Chief Inspector John McKeagh condemned the second night of disturbances. "Although the disturbances were on a much less scale that the night before, this behaviour is still totally unacceptable," he said. "Local residents deserve to live in peace and I can assure the community that we are continuing to work to bring those responsible before the courts at the earliest opportunity. "A team of dedicated officers has been set up to achieve this and I am confident that further arrest will be made over the next few days. "I would also urge local community and elected representatives to assist police in their efforts to dissuade this unacceptable behaviour."
it's funny how clueless people in london are to things that happen in the rest of the uk / how clueless people generally are to the fact that the british government illegally occupied the north of ireland for over 3 deacades with a military presence and still does, and allowed prisoners to hunger strike to death, opened fire on and killed peaceful protesters etc. and refused to give irish people civil rights...in the NINETIES
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i would be cool because i look like a tewwowist toohahaha, all the cunts that were calling me bin laden in school get shot up by IRA and im chilling with Sinn Fein
lol @ thinking that.Race is important.
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yeh probablystill a man can dream

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Yeah, this is all well & good, but have you not heard about Green Gang vs. Grey Gang blud? Mandem actually WALK through each others estates IN BROAD DAYLIGHT shouting out their postcode and WEARING coloured clothes which correspond to the names of their gangs. It's f*ckin real, cuz.London is the real warzone, everyone knows this.

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Yeah, this is all well & good, but have you not heard about Green Gang vs. Grey Gang blud? Mandem actually WALK through each others estates IN BROAD DAYLIGHT shouting out their postcode and WEARING coloured clothes which correspond to the names of their gangs. It's f*ckin real, cuz.London is the real warzone, everyone knows this.
it's real, but very retarded.
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Yeah, this is all well & good, but have you not heard about Green Gang vs. Grey Gang blud? Mandem actually WALK through each others estates IN BROAD DAYLIGHT shouting out their postcode and WEARING coloured clothes which correspond to the names of their gangs. It's f*ckin real, cuz.London is the real warzone, everyone knows this.
tbh this is the only reason i made this threadcos most people on here/in london actually think thatwhen you've got guys walking round west belfast who've killed 30 british soldiers
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