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Confirmed on SSN. From next season clubs have to register 25 players, and 8 have to be home grown.Heard some stats on SSN -We've got the most eligible with 24Man Utd have 19Arsenal and Chelsea have the least with 8 eachedit - source

Liverpool and several other Premier League clubs will have to dramatically overhaul their playing staffs for next season, when new rules will be introduced forcing them to limit squad sizes and encourage the development of "home-grown" talent.The league's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, revealed that the 20 top-flight clubs last week agreed to the new rules. They are broadly based on Uefa's regulations for clubs competing in the Champions League and the Europa League but applying them to the Premier League as well will force some to slim down their squads in the face of accusations they are "stockpiling" talent.Under the rules, clubs will have to name a squad of 25 players over 21 before the season begins. Eight of those players must be "home-grown", in that they must have been developed for at least three years by an English or Welsh club before their 21st birthday. They can name a second, limitless list of players under 21 and both lists can be resubmitted at the end of the January transfer window.Liverpool will be among the worst-hit clubs. According to their website, they have 56 registered professionals with 23 battling for 17 spots for non-home-grown players within the squad under the new rules."It clearly encourages youth development and the promotion of young players, but, and we don't apologise for it, it goes nowhere near a nationality test because we don't believe that's right," said Scudamore. However, naturally, it is encouragement to those who are developed locally – from within your association – and that will encourage players who are qualified to play for the home country."The Premier League, which signalled a U-turn earlier this year from its historic opposition to rules placing limits on squad sizes or introducing quotas, is likely to face criticism from some who feel the rules do not go far enough.But Scudamore insisted the new rules would have a meaningful impact. "For players and agents, it will have an effect. It will reduce squad sizes, it will stop the warehousing of players. It will have an impact. If you're not in that 17, you're not playing. This is going to alter some dynamics," he said."Nothing is going to stop a club buying a 25-year-old from abroad. But they will have to get rid of someone else [to do so]. There will be some interesting discussions with those who are surplus to requirements and won't make the 17."He refused to comment directly on the allegations about Premier League clubs scouring Europe for the best young talent in the wake of Fifa banning Chelsea from signing any new players until 2011 over the Gaël Kakuta affair."There aren't thousands of young people being shipped over here and brought into our academies," he said. "There are some, but the rhetoric of the last three weeks would have you believe there are boat loads coming in all the time. There are ones and twos."The Premier League points to figures showing that 85% of the 320 academy scholars at its clubs are British, a figure that rises to 95% for the 2,486 students under the age of 16.However, there is an acceptance that there is an issue around "transitioning" players aged between 18 and 21 to the first team. Scudamore said the new rules would help and promised it would be an area of focus for the league's new director of youth, Ged Roddy."It is a rule we think will give extra incentive for clubs to invest in youth development. The intention is to make a better return from investment in youth, to transition more players from the youth team to the first team. To make rather than buy is the intention," he said.Even if it merely encouraged clubs to buy younger players he said the effect would be a positive one, using a culinary analogy to liken them to "that doughy stuff you buy half-made"."You can buy semi-cooked stuff at 18, 19, 20 and that is better than someone saying 'forget youth development, I'm going to buy 25 to 31-year-olds from abroad fully cooked'."The new proposals were partly motivated by the intervention of the former culture secretary Andy Burnham, who last year challenged football authorities on a wide-ranging series of questions concerning the future of the game.
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u see this 25. are they the set 1st team squad. as in nobody outside this 25 will be allowed to play in the league? or is it gonna be a thing where players can be registered and de-registered when they get injured?

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Rule doesn't solve anything in regards to developing English talent.

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Rule doesn't solve anything in regards to developing English talent.
I reckon in the coming months UEFA will bring in some legislation alongside it so English clubs can't steal 16 year olds.Then over the next decade or so the 8 will slowly rise and rise to 12 or something, and then end up as 5 in your matchday squad or something.
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Rule doesn't solve anything in regards to developing English talent.
it does. it makes it more of a gamble signing youngers from abroad. cos they have to have been in the academy for 3 years to count as homegrown. would united have signed macheda for example if they had to do it when he was 14/15?Also it means youngers are more likely to play if theres an injury crisis. instead of having 5 or 6 guys infront of them it could be 2 or 3 in some cases.I wouldnt say its a massive step, but it is an improvement
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this is bad for us JJ??Ashley might get signed by the big four as well as milner??

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Nah, it's only one third of your squad isn't it. I reckon they'll just replace the water carriers in their squad with English players.Perfect example is Liverpool getting rid of Warnock, and look all the random shite foreign fullbacks they've signed since.But if they do come for our top boys then their fees will be even bigger.

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Greater inflated market for english players Need to address lack of talent from grass roots, not enough top talent to go round we got all these barrys, cattermole, parkers etc not enough j.coleJust gonna mean players potential ruined like swp getting bought n going on da bench

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We didn't want to actually sell Warnock though, he wanted to be first choice ahead of Aurelio and Rafa wouldn't guarantee it, same with Crouch. Non of them want to be patient just up and leave when they aren't guaranteed a spot.

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Arsenal are cool.Cos players like Denilson are home-grown, lol.

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That said it now means we cant sell Denilson and the like...Might as well renew Senderos contract now...This must be cos 6+5 was rejected the other week.

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Greater inflated market for english players Need to address lack of talent from grass roots, not enough top talent to go round we got all these barrys, cattermole, parkers etc not enough j.coleJust gonna mean players potential ruined like swp getting bought n going on da bench
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Rah Arsenal have 15Bet a lot of them are actually foreign thoughLike Fabregas, Denilson, Song etc

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InsuaGerrardCarragherMartin KellyGlen JohnsonHmmthats 3 more. Not that big problem imoSwear N'gog might even be classified as a home grown player next season

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Rule doesn't solve anything in regards to developing English talent.
Rule doesn't solve anything in regards to developing English talent.
I reckon in the coming months UEFA will bring in some legislation alongside it so English clubs can't steal 16 year olds.Then over the next decade or so the 8 will slowly rise and rise to 12 or something, and then end up as 5 in your matchday squad or something.
hopefully this happens, its getting beyond a joke now.
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Paying twice as much money as you should do for English mixed race athletes does not constitute 'developing talent' though, still. Sorry MON.

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there's a difference between increasing the quality of english plays in the prem,and increasing the quantity of the english players in the prem.this rule can only achieve one of those things.

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I think the "logic" behind it is if younger/english players are given more playing time at a high level it will eventually make them better players if those players happen to be english it will leave the country with better English players so both of the objective can be achieved quantity and quality the problem is higlighted by Arsenal as yes they can fullfill the criteria but how many of the players are actually English and even if the werehaving 8 homegrown in the squad doesn't mean they'll get playing time

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Swear N'gog might even be classified as a home grown player next season
He'll be 21 next season but won't have done three years.
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Mr Wenger>>>>>>>>Always a step ahead.LOL @ Liverpool, Villa & City to replace you next season

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1 Manuel Almunia2 Abou Diaby3 Bacary Sagna4 Cesc Fàbregas (captain)5 Thomas Vermaelen6 Philippe Senderos7 Tomáš Rosický8 Samir Nasri9 Eduardo10 William Gallas11 Robin van Persie12 Carlos Vela14 Theo Walcott15 Denílson17 Alexandre Song18 Mikaël Silvestre20 Johan Djourou21 Łukasz Fabiański22 Gaël Clichy23 Andrei Arshavin24 Vito Mannone27 Emmanuel Eboué52 Nicklas BendtnerThats 24 players, with 10 "home-grown" then add either...42 Kerrea Gilbert50 Jay SimpsonOr just buy a foreigner over 21, to make a squad of 25.Then you got already first team members but under 21 who all would qualify in years to come16 Aaron Ramsey19 Jack Wilshere28 Kieran Gibbs30 Armand Traoré32 Fran Mérida53 Wojciech Szczęsny

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Infact under 21s can be included in your 25 if you want, Wenger can buy and sell, well sell, with no worrries.Infact this aint changing sh*t cos you could have 17 foreigners, which make up your matchday 18, then just name any 8 youth team players that never get a look in.

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