FAO those who believe in climate change

[Thun]

Thun are you a scientist? If not then shut upIt's a pity Brown doesn't take scientific facts so seriously when it comes to his drug policy

You dont have to be a scientist to know its all a scam dumb f*ckYou seem to suck up anything the government feeds you

[YGNB]

Thun are you a scientist? If not then shut upIt's a pity Brown doesn't take scientific facts so seriously when it comes to his drug policy

You dont have to be a scientist to know its all a scam dumb f*ckYou seem to suck up anything the government feeds you

Suck up everything the governement feeds me? The UK government and others around the world are not doing nearly enough. There needs to be some BIG changes in our lifestyles not some puny emission cuts

[Thun]

Thun are you a scientist? If not then shut upIt's a pity Brown doesn't take scientific facts so seriously when it comes to his drug policy

You dont have to be a scientist to know its all a scam dumb f*ckYou seem to suck up anything the government feeds you

Suck up everything the governement feeds me? The UK government and others around the world are not doing nearly enough. There needs to be some BIG changes in our lifestyles not some puny emission cuts

You aint even looked at the consequences of going along with the scam have you?You will be getting taxed so much you will be gutted that you ever went along with itYour carbon foot print will be taxed and this will not doing anything for the environment but exceed the profits of the scammers

Everyone in Britain could be given a personal 'carbon allowance'Everyone in Britain should have an annual carbon ration and be penalised if they use too much fuel, the head of the Environment Agency will say.Lord Smith of Finsbury believes that implementing individual carbon allowances for every person will be the most effective way of meeting the targets for cutting greenhouse gas emissions.It would involve people being issued with a unique number which they would hand over when purchasing products that contribute to their carbon footprint, such as fuel, airline tickets and electricity. Like with a bank account, a statement would be sent out each month to help people keep track of what they are using.If their "carbon account" hits zero, they would have to pay to get more credits.Those who are frugal with their carbon usage will be able to sell their unused credits and make a profit.Lord Smith will call for the scheme to be part of a "Green New Deal" to be introduced within 20 years when he addresses the agency's annual conference on Monday.An Environment Agency spokesman said only those with "extravagant lifestyles" would be affected by the carbon allowances.He said: "A lot of people who cycle will get money back. It will probably only be bankers and those with extravagant lifestyles who would lose out."However, some have criticised the move as "Orwellian" and say it will have a detrimental impact on business.Ruth Lea, an economist from Arbuthnot Banking Group, told the Daily Mail: "This is all about control of the individual and you begin to wonder whether this is what the green agenda has always been about. It's Orwellian. This will be an enormous tax on business."Under the Climate Change Act, Britain is obliged to cut its emissions by 80 per cent on 1990 levels by 2050. This means annual CO2 emissions per person will have to fall from about 9 tonnes to only 2 tonnes. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/carbon/6527970/Everyone-in-Britain-could-be-given-a-personal-carbon-allowance.html

[O.Man]

yo Thun, seriously, allow all the d*ckheads that doubt you. You'll be here all your life trying to prove you're right. Just spread the word and let them chat sh*t.

[YGNB]

Everyone SHOULD be given a carbon allowance

[Thun]

Everyone SHOULD be given a carbon allowance

Swear this guy is the ultimate bootlickerThis prick is actually begging the government to tax him more and make more poor people sufferf*ck*ng mug

[neeko]

Thun are you a scientist? If not then shut upIt's a pity Brown doesn't take scientific facts so seriously when it comes to his drug policy

the most washed argumentthis is the real world. people lie.

[YGNB]

How will you be gettin taxed more? Use a fair enough level of carbon and you will be fine.In fact, if anything, this will help poor people - it says you can sell unused credits. Now I'm not sure what your definition of poor is, but people who fly around the world, drive 2 minutes down the road and use a stupid amount of electricity ain'tAn Environment Agency spokesman said only those with "extravagant lifestyles" would be affected by the carbon allowances.He said: "A lot of people who cycle will get money back. It will probably only be bankers and those with extravagant lifestyles who would lose out."

[Thun]

How will you be gettin taxed more? Use a fair enough level of carbon and you will be fine.In fact, if anything, this will help poor people - it says you can sell unused credits. Now I'm not sure what your definition of poor is, but people who fly around the world, drive 2 minutes down the road and use a stupid amount of electricity ain'tAn Environment Agency spokesman said only those with "extravagant lifestyles" would be affected by the carbon allowances.He said: "A lot of people who cycle will get money back. It will probably only be bankers and those with extravagant lifestyles who would lose out."

Dont be so gullible All them taxes aint going to help the enviromentIt will go to the companies who have set up this scamPeople will be going cold and going without certain things while the rich still live like they doYou think the rich will give a f*ck about carbon allowance as they got the means to pay itIts all based on a scam with fraudlent science so its bait its just a con to suck more money out of people You have actually fallen for the fraud lol

[Angelo]

On an unrelated note.It's funny the way those that work the hardest in this country are being demonised for having lifestyles that they've f*ck*ng EARNT.

[YGNB]

On an unrelated note.It's funny the way those that work the hardest in this country are being demonised for having lifestyles that they've f*ck*ng EARNT.

Oh a tory boy.Rich people work the hardest? Not sure bout that son.

[Guest Triple XXX]

the world is fed up

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhK7W0A7a2Nba8fJ5j

[neeko]

On an unrelated note.It's funny the way those that work the hardest in this country are being demonised for having lifestyles that they've f*ck*ng EARNT.

Oh a tory boy.Rich people work the hardest? Not sure bout that son.

<_< <_<ffsyh they just sat on their arse and did nothing and the p came flooding\

How can Brown stick up for these scientists who commit fraud and insult people saying people who dont believe in climate change are 'flat earthers' when its bait now its all a big con to scam more money out of people

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHATItyOsdY

that guy got ripped apartbut as this is fox...

[YGNB]

On an unrelated note.It's funny the way those that work the hardest in this country are being demonised for having lifestyles that they've f*ck*ng EARNT.

Oh a tory boy.Rich people work the hardest? Not sure bout that son.

<_< <_<ffsyh they just sat on their arse and did nothing and the p came flooding\

Come on mate, use your brain.

[Skenghis Khan]

Dunno bout climate change hypebut i can smell and taste the pollution in the air in london. Go and stick ur face next to a car exhaust, u dont need the government to tell u its sum nasty toxic sh*t.its common sense - theres a limit to much more sh*t we can bury / chuck in the sea / pump into the atmosphere. How can you think that 6 billion people could not have a massive effect on their environment.Humans have to start living differently unless we want to be living in sum rinsed out wasteland a few hundred years from now.

[Thun]

Its common sense we could all do more for the environment but the solution is not to force fraudlent science on us and say we will tax you for your carbon footprint as the money will only go to the scammers and not to better the environment

[Angelo]

On an unrelated note.It's funny the way those that work the hardest in this country are being demonised for having lifestyles that they've f*ck*ng EARNT.

Oh a tory boy.Rich people work the hardest? Not sure bout that son.

No, I am definitely not Tory. I believe if you work hard for something, you've earnt the right to do what the f*ck you want.And @ "son" - think you have the wrong person mate.And a final LOL if you're seriously telling me Investment Bankers and hedge fund managers don't work hard, and didn't work hard to get where they are.

[Da Luv Doc]

Lol at people that don't believe in climate change when our summers now last until October, autumn blows right through December and snow doesn't come until February.

see thats the thing. it was called global warming.think we didnt see the headlines: "london to be like florida by 2018", "parts of kent to be desert" a few years ago."hottest summers on record", that hasnt happened. and a few years later its gone from global warming to "climate change"!london summer lasts until october??? are we talking london UK or London in Limpopo south africa?first it was the ozone layer being destroyed, then global warming, now climate change. by 2012 it will be Climate irritation or climate shift.of course the weathers will change from decade to decade, and the polar caps are melting.. but there are many reasons for this.the people hellbent on climate change policies, are not open to much debate about the issue.Gordon brown talks about those opposing being "flat earth" naysayers, well..it was only europeans who assumed the earth was flat not the older civilisationsits not like its snowing in dubai, and summer in siberia. so lets get all the facts on the table and not be rushed into signing stuff that hurts developing countries more thanthose who have already caused 95% of the current damage.

I do remember those headlines. I definitely don't remember dates being put on them but that's irrelevant as predictions aren't exact science so the dates mean jack.Yes Carpe, summer lasted a long time. When people were going "Ah man, it's hot again this weekend! That's sick!" That was supposed to be autumn! Now, when it's pissing down with rain in December and there's no chance of their being a white Christmas, this is supposed to be winter. In February, winter is supposed to be coming to a close. Instead it'll probably be the coldest part of the year and it snowed last year (and the year before I think). These are changes. The weather will change from decade to decade? The seasons have been the way we remember them for more than a decade or so. Yet in the last few years everything seems to be changing.I'm not saying I believe in climate change and you should too (although I probably do)... I'm saying that SOMETHING is happening. Is it that big a deal to drive a little less and turn off unused appliances? So they use it to control us, what government doesn't!? My only issue with Brown is that he was elected to his position. The rest is just nitpicking because we're gonna get this sh*t no matter who is in and no matter what we do. Unless there's a revolution. Till then. Don't call me.Note: This is to Carpe. Thun and Justin, don't reply. I won't read your posts. You're both too hardheaded and idiotic to debate with.

them Al Gore movements where he doesn't want to debate with people who xan rip them apart.Keep chatting rubbish.We all got brainwashed @ primary school that global warming is happening but some of us acctually had open minds and decided to find out the truth.

[Da Luv Doc]

How can people not think that the energy we are using is not affecting the world at all. Of course it is. Mother nature will take care of her self hense the floodings and natural fires.

one sec, there were never regular floods before the hype?There were never regular fires in hot regions before the hype?The world has never been this hot thousands of times?Allow this silly talk, this has always happened just certain people will not admit to this.Also the average temp of the world will not reach 70degreed c until a few billion years. This is due to the sun, not us.It is a money making scheme by the nwo to control us and to keep poor third world countries poor. They don't want certain places to be successful.

LOL, Theres no point explaining it to you punky!Your an idiot if you think the rise in electricity, etc is not damaging this earth.About its the suns fault not ours! accecpt some responsability, we are slowly destroying the earth, with our waste.

your brainwashed tbh there is no saving you.Co2 is a bi-product, what is due to human activity is NOTHING to what volcanoes put out in the air.Yet the world is cooling (even the e-mails will prove this).I believe actual waste like plastics and similar things are bad for the environment, but co2 thing is a lie, water vapour is much more of a green house gas if you want to moan about greenhouse gases.

[Da Luv Doc]

Everyone SHOULD be given a carbon allowance

lol what???Joking???Basically you will be controlled and super taxed for stupid stuff.You'll basically have a limit on how you can live your l ife and pending on how wealthy you are, you'll wont be able to do majority of things you'd do now.Lol @ your foolishness!

[J. Edgar]

Climate change is not an issue for us to be concerned aboutinfact we have another 4.5 billion until the suns hydrogen fusion runs out which will then potentially kill us due to its size growingin theory we should be worrying about the moon drifting 4 cms away from us each year

[Thun]

Only one in two voters accepts man-made climate change, according to new pollNearly one in two voters believes there is no proof that mankind is causing global warming, according to a new opinion poll.By Patrick Hennessy Political EditorPublished: 9:00PM GMT 05 Dec 2009The ICM survey for The Sunday Telegraph will dismay proponents of "man-made" climate change – including leading scientists and the majority of world governments – as they gather in Copenhagen for the landmark climate summit.Asked if they backed the main conclusion of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), that humans are largely responsible for modern day rises in temperatures, 52 per cent of voters agreed.However, 39 per cent said climate change had not yet been proven to be man made, while seven per cent simply denied the phenomenon was happening at all. Furthermore, fewer than one in four voters (23 per cent) believed that climate change was "the most serious problem faced by man" – a view endorsed by governments across the world.A clear majority (58 per cent) said it was merely "one of a number of serious problems" while 17 per cent believed it has been exaggerated and is "not a very serious problem."The survey follows the recent raising of tensions between proponents of man-made climate change, which is the prevailing scientific view, and those who take a more sceptical stance. The IPCC has said it will launch an investigation after the online publication of emails and other material stolen from the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit (CRU) in the so-called "climategate" affair. Climate change sceptics claim the material shows that the evidence used to support man-made global warming has been manipulated.The Sunday Telegraph has learned that Professor Phil Jones, who headed the CRU and who has stood aside after the leak of the emails, has received more than £13 million in funding for his research.Jean-Pascal van Ypersele, vice chairman of the IPCC, said it was possible Russian hackers had been paid as part of a global conspiracy to cast doubt on the science of global warming. "I do not think this is a coincidence," he added.Gordon Brown, who will attend the two-week, 192-nation Copenhagen summit, denounced "the behind-the-times, anti-science, flat-earth climate sceptics" who challenged the prevailing view.David Cameron has also put tackling climate change high on the Conservative agenda – although his party is home to some prominent sceptics.David Davis, the former shadow home secretary, has hit out at "the fixation of the green movement with setting ever tougher targets".The ICM poll showed Tory voters were less likely to agree with the prevailing scientific view on man-made global warming (47 per cent) than either Labour supporters (58 per cent) or Liberal Democrats (57 per cent).Lord Stern, the British government's leading adviser, has warned that 10 billion tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions must be taken out of the atmosphere by 2020. So far agreement is in place for only half of that amount – but chances of a landmark deal at Copenhagen, where President Barack Obama will also attend, appear slim.Despite the drive to do a deal to cut emissions at Copenhagen its is estimated that there will be around 1,200 limousines on the city's road this week – of which just five will be either electric cars or hybrids. Copenhagen's main airport, furthermore, says it is expecting up to 140 extra private jets.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/6737353/Only-one-in-two-voters-accepts-man-made-climate-change-according-to-new-poll.html

LOL at there scam failing

[Guest Malcolm Tucker]

from when it snowed last week this global warming needs to hurry the f*ck up....

[Jodie]

I remember when it snowed in f*ck*ng APRIL one time!!Back in 2008.Never forget that.LOL @ people denying global warming.

[Guest WAVESURFER]

LOL @ Justin's new "Thun Jr." e-persona.What a f*ck*ng knob.