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Carbon ration account for all proposed by Environment AgencyIf people used up their yearly ration early, they would have to buy extra from those who had not used their full allowanceFrom The TimesNovember 9, 2009Everyone should be given an annual carbon ration and face financial penalties if they exceed it, under a proposal by the Environment Agency.Lord Smith of Finsbury, the agency’s chairman, will say today that rationing is the fairest and most effective way of meeting Britain’s legally binding targets for cutting greenhouse gas emissions.People would be given a “carbon account” and a unique number that they would have to submit when making purchases of carbon-intensive items such as petrol, electricity or airline tickets. As with a bank account, people would receive statements showing the carbon weight of each purchase and how much of their ration remained.If they used up their ration within a year, they would have to buy extra credits from those who had not used their full allowance.Lord Smith, who was Culture Secretary in Tony Blair’s Government, believes that the system would encourage people to think about the carbon cost of their purchases as well as reward those who lived frugally and did little travelling, who could make a significant profit from selling their unused credits.Speaking at the agency’s annual conference in London, Lord Smith will say that carbon rationing would help people to “judge how they want to develop their own quality of life in a sustainable way”.http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6909046.ece
There whole concept is based on liesThis is what you get when you support there crazy theories
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Thun, do you work?If so, why are you contributing to "them" ?If not, why are you dependent on "them"? Assuming you claim benefits.If you really believed everything you typed, you would not log in and post to VIP. In fact, you would use the internet as sparsely as possible. Unless you use multiple net cafe's. In that case, why waste your precious time on VIP?

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They couldn't possibly assign an equal ration to every person. I think this is another one of those proposals that never really sees the light of day.And besides, there will probably be loopholes whereby you can have allowances for companies. Register a few of them, and buy them through the tax man.This would not work.

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Thun, do you work?If so, why are you contributing to "them" ?If not, why are you dependent on "them"? Assuming you claim benefits.If you really believed everything you typed, you would not log in and post to VIP. In fact, you would use the internet as sparsely as possible. Unless you use multiple net cafe's. In that case, why waste your precious time on VIP?
When you come to understand that it aint theres but ours you might have a little fight in you to realise that it aint about living in fear The internet is ours to use as a tool
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Thun, do you work?If so, why are you contributing to "them" ?If not, why are you dependent on "them"? Assuming you claim benefits.If you really believed everything you typed, you would not log in and post to VIP. In fact, you would use the internet as sparsely as possible. Unless you use multiple net cafe's. In that case, why waste your precious time on VIP?
When you come to understand that it aint theres but ours you might have a little fight in you to realise that it aint about living in fear The internet is ours to use as a tool
So to you global warming is a 'crazy theory'ok
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Thun, do you work?If so, why are you contributing to "them" ?If not, why are you dependent on "them"? Assuming you claim benefits.If you really believed everything you typed, you would not log in and post to VIP. In fact, you would use the internet as sparsely as possible. Unless you use multiple net cafe's. In that case, why waste your precious time on VIP?
When you come to understand that it aint theres but ours you might have a little fight in you to realise that it aint about living in fear The internet is ours to use as a tool
So to you global warming is a 'crazy theory'ok
I think the sun heating up and causing temperatures to rise on Venus and Mars is not because there are too many SUV'sGlobal warming is the earth going through its cycles like it has done throughout timeWe should look at ways to cut pollution but the sun heating up is not our faultWatch as these scientists and experts who are not on the government payroll tell you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqqWJugXzs

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Thun, do you work?If so, why are you contributing to "them" ?If not, why are you dependent on "them"? Assuming you claim benefits.If you really believed everything you typed, you would not log in and post to VIP. In fact, you would use the internet as sparsely as possible. Unless you use multiple net cafe's. In that case, why waste your precious time on VIP?
When you come to understand that it aint theres but ours you might have a little fight in you to realise that it aint about living in fear The internet is ours to use as a tool
You dodged my questions, but OK.Regarding the internet, do you know how it started? Are you aware it started life as a U.S Military funded project? D/ARPA Net was it's original name.Do you know what the original purpose of the design of the internet was? Capable of operating even if one/many nodes were taken out by nukes.Do you know how many *Tier 1 routers there are in the world? These routers have gigabits of bandwidth and RAM. There are less than 7. Of this 7, do you know how many are in the U.S, under the control of the U.S Military? 3.Whose internet is it?*I forget the proper term
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Thun, do you work?If so, why are you contributing to "them" ?If not, why are you dependent on "them"? Assuming you claim benefits.If you really believed everything you typed, you would not log in and post to VIP. In fact, you would use the internet as sparsely as possible. Unless you use multiple net cafe's. In that case, why waste your precious time on VIP?
When you come to understand that it aint theres but ours you might have a little fight in you to realise that it aint about living in fear The internet is ours to use as a tool
You dodged my questions, but OK.Regarding the internet, do you know how it started? Are you aware it started life as a U.S Military funded project? D/ARPA Net was it's original name.Do you know what the original purpose of the design of the internet was? Capable of operating even if one/many nodes were taken out by nukes.Do you know how many *Tier 1 routers there are in the world? These routers have gigabits of bandwidth and RAM. There are less than 7. Of this 7, do you know how many are in the U.S, under the control of the U.S Military? 3.Whose internet is it?*I forget the proper term
Your point is?
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Climate change champion and sceptic both call for inquiry into leaked emailsBoth sides of climate change debate urge investigation as Met Office dismisses 'shallow attempt to discredit robust science'guardian.co.uk, Monday 23 November 2009 16.23 GMT Prominent voices on both sides of the climate change debate today called for an independent inquiry into claims of collusion between climate scientists after it emerged last week that hundreds of their emails and documents had been leaked that allegedly manipulated data and destroyed evidence for Freedom of Information Act requests.Writing in the Times, Lord Lawson, the former Conservative chancellor and long-time climate change sceptic, said: "The integrity of the scientific evidence on which not merely the British government, but other countries, too, through the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, claim to base far-reaching and hugely expensive policy decisions, has been called into question. And the reputation of British science has been seriously tarnished. A high-level independent inquiry must be set up without delay."Bob Ward, director of policy and communications at the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment at the London School of Economics, said: "Once appropriate action has been taken over the hacking, there has to be some process to assess the substance of the email messages as well. The selective disclosure and dissemination of the messages has created the impression of impropriety, and the only way of clearing the air now would be through a rigorous investigation. I have sympathy for the climate researchers at the University of East Anglia and other institutions who have been the target of an aggressive campaign by so-called 'sceptics' over a number of years. But I fear that only a thorough investigation could now clear their names."He added: "There needs to be an assurance that these email messages have not revealed inappropriate conduct in the preparation of journal articles and in dealing with requests from other researchers for access to data. This will probably require investigations both by the host institutions and by the relevant journals. There may also be a role for the UK Research Integrity Office to advise on any investigation."A spokesperson for Nature, the science journal mentioned by name in one of the alleged emails that sceptics say provides evidence of data manipulation and collusion, declined to comment.A spokesperson for the UK Research Integrity Office said it wouldn't comment on this case, but added: "UKRIO is not a regulatory body and does not have a case investigation role, though we can and do participate in investigations at the request of an employer, regulator or other appropriate body or person. If a field of research is not governed by statute, it normally devolves to the employer or grant funding body to investigate."The Met Office confirmed that none of its own computers has come under attack from hackers and said that it would not call for an inquiry.A spokesman at the Met Office, which jointly produces global temperature datasets with the Climate Research Unit, said there was no need for an inquiry. "If you look at the emails, there isn't any evidence that the data was falsified and there's no evidence that climate change is a hoax. It's a shame that some of the sceptics have had to take this rather shallow attempt to discredit robust science undertaken by some of the world's most respected scientists. The bottom line is that temperatures continue to rise and humans are responsible for it. We have every confidence in the science and the various datasets we use. The peer-review process is as robust as it could possibly be. It's no surprise, with the Copenhagen talks just days away, that this has happened now."Andy Atkins, Friends of the Earth's executive director, also dismissed calls for an inquiry. He said: "Calls for an inquiry look suspiciously like an attempt to cast doubt on the science of climate change ahead of crucial UN negotiations. The overwhelming majority of climate scientists believe that climate change is happening, that it is man-made, and that it poses a major threat to people across the planet. We can't afford to be distracted from the need for urgent action to combat global warming – rich countries must lead the way by agreeing to slash their emissions when they meet in Copenhagen next month."http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/23/climate-sceptics-bob-ward-nigel-lawson
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Thun, if you really believed everything you typed, you would not use the internet or live in a house or wear clothes made by companies.
but then he doesnt type it. he goes to a website that posts "updates" 95% of which are taken from mainstream "govt bought" media postsand copies and pastes.not hard to do is it.
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Thun, if you really believed everything you typed, you would not use the internet or live in a house or wear clothes made by companies.
but then he doesnt type it. he goes to a website that posts "updates" 95% of which are taken from mainstream "govt bought" media postsand copies and pastes.not hard to do is it.
You are the one implying all mainstream media is government boughtI would not go that far
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Just been on infowars.com for the first time.I see this at the bottom - © 2009 Alex Jones | Infowars.com is an Alex Jones company. All rights reservedThat says it all tbh.
How is he meant to fund his operation?He demands that people bootlegg his DVD'sIm happy to give money to such a company who fights tyrannyYou went onto infowars to try find something you could say was false but all you could do was point out that its a company which is common knowledge
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Whilst global warming is real, carbon offsetting isn't.It's utter bullshit, and completely counter-productive.We should really be looking at how to cut carbon from cows. Real talk.
told you this guy chats sh*t, about global warming is real.Them brainwashed faggots.100% agree with thun, global warming = way of controlling us and getting moneychickcen can shut-up
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