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Mr. Gayle

Celtic and Rangers to Prem ?

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Major talks about it tomorrowWhat are you views, would you welcome them in the EPL.With the money they would get from TV etc, in a few years they would get very big. Massive brands they are.

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They can both f*ck off and stay in that diabolical league.It won't happen.

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if they wanna come to england they should start at the bottom.half of the championship teams would f*ck them up.

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Maybe they should be allowed to play in the Carling Cup or something nobody cares about. See how far they get and base any decision on that.

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They are saying it would be a two tier prem, Celtic and Rangers will be in Prem 2

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They won't create a two tier premier league because that would lead to it becomign even more elitist.If you want to sort out scottish footballGet some sort of TV deal with SOMEONE that would be interested in televising that many SPL games (f*ck knows who)Get the league some money somehow, and sort it ALL outDont just take the two richest, best supported teams out and leave the rest in the sh*t-pit

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As much as it helps the clubs out financiallyThe money they & the FA get from TV revenue deals has had a big big big part in ruining football and turning it from a sport into a business (mainly Sky)Can't imagine why anyone would support thisIts the reason why you can all complain how we can buy x amount of however many million rated players each year when smallr clubs cant hope to compete

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O’Neil said, “I would like to see both teams in the Premier League. I think it would make the Premier League even stronger.
Bolton chairman Phil Gartside will put forward his proposal for a two-tiered Premier League system that would include Scottish Premier League giants Celtic and Rangers tomorrow.Representatives from all 20 Premier League clubs will sit alongside Premier League officials to discuss pressing matters.And Gartside hopes to persuade fellow members to show interest in his idea that would involve two Premier League divisions of 18 teams in each, including inviting the Old Firm to join as well as an Irish franchise.
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What about the teams in the lower divisions?Ludicrous issue.

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The Scottish league would just collapse.

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What about the teams in the lower divisions?Ludicrous issue.
Aint big enough compared to Celtic and Rangers, these two teams will bring in so much moneyIts all about money hence why they are talking about this seriously
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The Scottish league would just collapse.
Could be looked at it in two waysIf they leave then the SPL will be more competitive for other teams, however so teams rely on playing against rangers and celtic so they would miss out on that money
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Also wouldn't want all thiat sectarianism bullshit over here

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Also wouldn't want all thiat sectarianism bullshit over here
how would that affect any team apart from rangers or celtic?
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Also wouldn't want all thiat sectarianism bullshit over here
how would that affect any team apart from rangers or celtic?
Oh yea your right its ok then.
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They can both f*ck off and stay in that diabolical league.It won't happen.
fully agree with the above+ what r rangers/celtic really gonna bring to the premiership apart from thousands of pissed up jocks
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A few points:-f*ck this 2 tier sh*t-Would they give us 6 champions league places?-Would the likes of Hibs and Aberdeen get into the champions league through the Scottish league?-Rangers and Celtic would get badded up by certain Championship teams right now.-The league would be f*ck*ng over competitive.

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See with this Premiership 2 talk it makes you think, will they include relegation? I heard they wouldn't, so then you have to ask how will they decide on what teams should be on that league? Celtic are happy to go into the Championship and work up, Rangers I don't think they will. Moyes and Redknapp are also thumbs up for this idea of them joining.If Rangers and Celtic did join (well it's all due to money), why don't the Scottish leagues just combined into 2 divisions of 20 teams instead of 10 teams with 4 leagues.Lol at this "Irish franchise".In the future I can see this happening.

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It will happen eventually, and if done correctly I reckon it could work.But the whole motive behind it is money based which will mean it'll all be a big c*ck up.

MARTIN SAMUEL: One problem with your franchise idea, Phil Gartside. No place for BoltonPhil Gartside, the chairman of Bolton, had a bad idea; then he had a worse one. He started by suggesting Rangers and Celtic should join a new two-tier Premier League. Then he went back to the drawing board and returned with the same plan, only as a closed shop. No relegation from tier two.A licence to be lousy, in other words. It would no longer matter how poor your team became, how hopeless your leadership, because you could never go down. It would turn English club football from a merit system to a franchise system overnight.Yet Gartside has one problem. Why would anyone want Bolton in this package?Fear factor: Phil Gartside is frightened of a time when Bolton are not good enough to be in the Premier League on meritGartside may think it is a simple case of pulling up the ladder after the 38th club and then parachuting in two from Glasgow, but he is talking about a revolution that would shape English football for decades.Franchised sport is not random, but meticulously constructed. It cannot be right that Leeds are shut out and Barnsley admitted, just because at one peculiar moment in time their traditional standings are reversed.Franchises are hand-picked, often on a geographical basis, and with two teams in Manchester certain to be selected, plus others to the north in Lancashire, would Bolton not be redundant in his brave new era?Start at the top. Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal form the elite, withRangers and Celtic.Then the biggest of the also rans: Manchester City, Aston Villa, Tottenham, Everton, Newcastle, Sunderland, West Ham, Wolverhampton, Stoke, Blackburn, Derby and Sheffield United. Each of these teams have been attracting, on average, more than 25,000 fans to their home games this season. Now, with 22 places left, we have to start hand-picking.Major cities and towns across a geographical spread must have representation, so in come Bristol City, Plymouth, Cardiff and Swansea in the west; Leicester, Coventry and Nottingham Forest in the Midlands; Southampton and Portsmouth in the south; Hull, Norwich and Ipswich in the east; Leeds, Preston North End, Middlesbrough and Blackpool in the north.This leaves six. There seems to be a large gap between London and Bristol, which could be filled by Reading, while representation in the south of the capital could go to Charlton.Traditionally passionate derby matches would have to be preserved, too, for the TV audience, affording places for Sheffield Wednesday and Birmingham.Now there are two. It would seem churlish not to include Fulham, who only fall 212 fans short of the 25,000 benchmark, while Bradford is Britain’s sixth largest urban area, with a population bigger than Liverpool, Manchester or Bristol. These things are important when franchising. Bradford it is, then. Bolton miss out in an already saturated market in the North West. Sorry about that, Phil.And sorry, too, to Wigan, Burnley, West Bromwich, Queens Park Rangers and all those other clubs who should make our franchised Premier League on merit, but are squeezed out once we allow greed to be the sole qualifying criterion.This is what Gartside is doing with his new proposal.He is not a visionary; he does not have what is best for football at heart. He is a frightened man because he sees what can happen to a club that falls out of the Premier League, and he fears it will be Bolton’s turn one day (and maybe this season with many more performances like the one against Aston Villa on Saturday).He wants to guard against this, to shut the door quickly before it happens and he tosses in the cash bonus of an invite to Rangers and Celtic to sweeten the deal for friends who see only a bottom line.He fails to comprehend that the only reason his club are even entertained in the top division is because English football rightly exists as a meritocracy, in which it is possible for Bolton to sit at the top table for ever, providing they are good enough, which is exactly as it should be.Without relegation, without the potential to rise or fall, competitive sport has no meaning.We curse the way the Champions League has created an elite quartet within our top division, so how would we feel if there was never the possibility of a club such as Wigan rising through four divisions, or Burnley returning to the top after an absence of 33 years?Not to mention Bolton, who climbed from Division Four in 1988 to the Premier League in 1995, and are perfectly free to remain or go back again, which should concern Gartside considerably more than schemes to seal in the right to be rotten without consequence.
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They should start from the Championshiop if anything

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Good hopefully the ridiculous issue will be dropped.

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