Dem Two Little Devilish White Yewts.

[Kompressor]

sending him to a prison for juvenile offenders isnt whats needed

guy needs psychotherapy and rehabilitation

correct

Disgusting.

But WTF has them being white got to do with anything? Stupid thing to say.

correct

Reading that the home life was absolutely f*cked, dad used to batter them and their mum. They knew no better. Life is f*cked up.

correct

As much as it's unfair, that's just the way it is, they've done something horrible and it cannot slide.

Life deals hands like that sometimes, it can't be good for everyone

nothing to do with letting it slide

it has to do with that they are children

children do not do things out of being evil, or just because they want to without normally having been abused in a similar manner themselves

if they were 15 it would be different

but the kid probably doesnt even have hair on his balls

as lemon said, they were abused and battered by their own dad and that is why this has happened

REHAB and THERAPY are needed

correct.

these two are victims aswell. lifes are f*cked from here on in unless they re offered serious help from now onwards

[gemma]

As much as it's unfair, that's just the way it is, they've done something horrible and it cannot slide.

Life deals hands like that sometimes, it can't be good for everyone

nothing to do with letting it slide

it has to do with that they are children

children do not do things out of being evil, or just because they want to without normally having been abused in a similar manner themselves

if they were 15 it would be different

but the kid probably doesnt even have hair on his balls

as lemon said, they were abused and battered by their own dad and that is why this has happened

REHAB and THERAPY are needed

it sounds harsh but i dont think those kids can be saved. rehab and therapy can only do so much, plus they can get that in jail.

their parents used to let them watch horror movies and sh*t from a young age, and they had access to porn etc. and they tortured them 'because they had nothing to do' .

i didnt even know what head was when i was 11, and they forced those boys to sexually assault each other

one of the boys was VERY close to dying as well

my mother is a foster mum and i would not feel comfortable having those boys live in my house. sleeping with one eye open and sh*t. they would be put in a home and become even more f*cked up

[Guest R9]

As much as it's unfair, that's just the way it is, they've done something horrible and it cannot slide.

Life deals hands like that sometimes, it can't be good for everyone

nothing to do with letting it slide

it has to do with that they are children

children do not do things out of being evil, or just because they want to without normally having been abused in a similar manner themselves

if they were 15 it would be different

but the kid probably doesnt even have hair on his balls

as lemon said, they were abused and battered by their own dad and that is why this has happened

REHAB and THERAPY are needed

it sounds harsh but i dont think those kids can be saved. rehab and therapy can only do so much, plus they can get that in jail.

their parents used to let them watch horror movies and sh*t from a young age, and they had access to porn etc. and they tortured them 'because they had nothing to do' .

i didnt even know what head was when i was 11, and they forced those boys to sexually assault each other

one of the boys was VERY close to dying as well

my mother is a foster mum and i would not feel comfortable having those boys live in my house. sleeping with one eye open and sh*t

right there is your problem

as you said kids shouldnt know what head is at that age, they shouldnt know anything except cartoons school and lurve

they have been corrupted by some devilish parents

they can be chucked in juve for 5 years and come out worse than when they went in

allow saying you dont think they can be saved

if you dont think a CHILD, who has 60 years left of live to live, can be saved

we might aswell give the death penalty to everyone for everything because if a child cant change, noone can.

[gemma]

plus kids CAN be little shits. my little brother was a little c*nt when he was 11. there comes and age where you have to stop babying them, and actually bother to punish them

didnt u guys hear about the 11 year old in croydon with 50 convictions?

someone needs to actually beat the sh*t outta him/sort him out/send him to jail before he shoots me in 4 years time

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2790301/A-boy-thief-has-been-nicked-50-times-at-the-age-of-11.html

[Guest Triple XXX]

11 aint as young as u man are goin on like it is still

thats jus a year before year 7, i knew alot them times i had even seen them beheading vids people were downloadin from KaZaa, was already on the porn game etc etc

its not that innocent an age

[Guest R9]

being a little sh*t, and being a callous attempted murderer who tortures other children are two very different things

if a child is committing crimes (other than perhaps the occasional stealing of a 2p sweet) then the people raising the child need to be brought into question

/

I wouldnt be averse to him shooting you if im honest

[gemma]

As much as it's unfair, that's just the way it is, they've done something horrible and it cannot slide.

Life deals hands like that sometimes, it can't be good for everyone

nothing to do with letting it slide

it has to do with that they are children

children do not do things out of being evil, or just because they want to without normally having been abused in a similar manner themselves

if they were 15 it would be different

but the kid probably doesnt even have hair on his balls

as lemon said, they were abused and battered by their own dad and that is why this has happened

REHAB and THERAPY are needed

it sounds harsh but i dont think those kids can be saved. rehab and therapy can only do so much, plus they can get that in jail.

their parents used to let them watch horror movies and sh*t from a young age, and they had access to porn etc. and they tortured them 'because they had nothing to do' .

i didnt even know what head was when i was 11, and they forced those boys to sexually assault each other

one of the boys was VERY close to dying as well

my mother is a foster mum and i would not feel comfortable having those boys live in my house. sleeping with one eye open and sh*t

right there is your problem

as you said kids shouldnt know what head is at that age, they shouldnt know anything except cartoons school and lurve

they have been corrupted by some devilish parents

they can be chucked in juve for 5 years and come out worse than when they went in

allow saying you dont think they can be saved

if you dont think a CHILD, who has 60 years left of live to live, can be saved

we might aswell give the death penalty to everyone for everything because if a child cant change, noone can.

have you ever stepped foot inside a children's home? they will be put in one surrounded by other bad breed kids, and will be free to do whatever the hell they like. rehab and theraphy wont be affective if they leave the hospital and step straight back into f*ckery everyday. an 11 year old in a childrens home is just as bad as juvie. they got sentenced to prison time because the judge obviously thinks they could be a danger to the public

this sh*t happens all too often, and the government can't help them. they can give it ago, but it'll be a massive fail.

best thing is if their mum gets it together and tries to be a parent, but she's an alcoholic with 5 other kids. no doubt stuck on benefits

[Guest Triple XXX]

yea of course these 2 were on a next tangent theres alot that could have and should have been done but wasnt and it took 2 kids almost dyin to make a move

they need proper help i jus hope its not too late for them

[Guest R9]

I grew up in childrens home love

dont lecture be about it

and LOL at suggesting beating a child who had been knocked about and abused by his dad

11 year olds arnt going to 'step back into f*ckry'

this isnt a grown man who will go back to the block and sell drugs

its a child who needs supervision and bounderies and bedtimes and to know what is right and wrong

there should NEVER be a point where you DONT KNOW what your child is doing when they are that young

[NO SUNSHINE]

I grew up in childrens home love

dont lecture be about it

and LOL at suggesting beating a child who had been knocked about and abused by his dad

trust

>>>> females tryna win an argument

[gemma]

11 aint as young as u man are goin on like it is still

thats jus a year before year 7, i knew alot them times i had even seen them beheading vids people were downloadin from KaZaa, was already on the porn game etc etc

its not that innocent an age

EXACTLY

@R9 - you grew up in one? where u not fostered and then maybe moved to one when u were 14/16?

and i'm not lecturing you about it. i know about foster homes too BLUD.

the average 11 year old should be at home with parents or guardians and not in jail or a home

[Guest R9]

thats the point im makingm they should be at home with parents

not parents who

sexually abuse them

batter them

expose them to inappropriate things

If you are involved in the above from a toddler, it is going to f*ck you up

your parents are the ones you get your moral base from and if THEY are abusing YOU

then HOW are you supposed to know right from wrong?

how can you be expected to turn out balanced, let alone alturistic

there is a REASON 90% of people who turn out to be pedophiles were molested themselves as children

im not saying throw these kids a a party

i'm saying throwing their lives away isnt going to help anyone.

[gemma]

thats the point im makingm they should be at home with parents

not parents who

sexually abuse them

batter them

expose them to inappropriate things

If you are involved in the above from a toddler, it is going to f*ck you up

your parents are the ones you get your moral base from and if THEY are abusing YOU

then HOW are you supposed to know right from wrong?

but when you look SPECIFICALLY at this case

their father is abusive/f*cked off somewhere

their mother is an alcholic with 5 other kids. social services are probably providing her with more support now, but after they nearly killed 2 boys, you would send them back home? their mum can't look after herself let alone 7 kids

[Angelo]

He never said they should go back to their original parents.

He said they should be around parents who can discipline and rehabilitate them, not in jail where the problem would get worse. Swear this was obvious.

[Guest R9]

mate where did I say send them back home?

Edit @ Angelo, exactly

and for these reasons

im out

[Hernandez Balcazar]

Madness

[Kompressor]

I grew up in childrens home love

dont lecture be about it

and LOL at suggesting beating a child who had been knocked about and abused by his dad

11 year olds arnt going to 'step back into f*ckry'

this isnt a grown man who will go back to the block and sell drugs

its a child who needs supervision and bounderies and bedtimes and to know what is right and wrong

there should NEVER be a point where you DONT KNOW what your child is doing when they are that young

Correct

the child protection services need to be sorted out, there are too many stories like this and most of them have the same situation of abusive parents/home life and neglect,

LOL at thinking beating them is a answer when that was probably one of the reasons for this in the first place.

[gemma]

He never said they should go back to their original parents.

He said they should be around parents who can discipline and rehabilitate them, not in jail where the problem would get worse. Swear this was obvious.

and then i said, it's unlikely they would get placed in foster care, and living in a children's home is just as bad

they can get discipline and rehab in jail duh.

if those boys had actually died, i doubt you'd be saying the same thing

and i'm outtie too

[Kompressor]

going to jail would be the worse thing for these kids.

[Guest WAVESURFER]

What the f*ck is wrong with the females on VIP2?

[Angelo]

What the f*ck is wrong with the females on VIP2?

Penis envy

[charliechalk]

Whatever r9 says in the future and has said in his topic is right.

There must be an order after that, or at least some sort of continued suspended sentence.

Don't tell me he got 5 years on it's own

They will come out on ISS (Intensive Supervision and Surveillance ) Orders and I'm guessing this will probably be for around 18 months. Bearing in mind the judge set a MINIMUM TERM this doesn't necessarily mean after this 5 they will come out, they will be assessed and kept in or released accordingly.

[Steven]

lol

back to the kitchen women

[charliechalk]

I hope you're not talking to me

[Trilliam]

you know he's talking to you