David Cameron on Tuition Fees

[Corrigan]

ROFL

i remeber in one seminar the day before one of the protests we were discussing the cuts

and then 1 bait uber liberal dike with a shaved head piped up in some grouchy northern voice "THEY HAVE ALSO CUT EMA, WITHOUT IT SOME OF US COULDN'T HAVE MADE IT TO UNI"

one of them moments where everyone was like

[Guest Esquilax]

Some joke.

[Grafter]

maybe people go to uni regardless of ema

but a lot of people did and do need it

my sister goes college and they have to BUY TEXTBOOKS? wtf - its not uni

but thats what her ema does/should go towards

dem kids on photography course and the like, have to pay sh*t loads for equipment

and if your parents havnt got it to give u, ur choices are just restricted

and when i was in 6 form i used the money to buy clothes, cos school uniform couldnt save me them times

if i didnt have that money to buy clothes i would have been a complete tramp in a school full of rich kids - all this contributes to how u get on in school, how u fit in, how u socialise, network and succeed

all well to say children in developing countries dont want to be paid to go to school, but these are completely different circumstances

[Corrigan]

lol didnt even know that

making kids buy textbooks in college... peaky

for me EMA was just beer and draw money, we had to wear suits in college / sixthfrm so clothing wernt an issue

where did u go smaddy?

[Guest Esquilax]

The money that is currently being saved SHOULD be reinvested back into the schools

I agree it's bull that they have to buy their own books

Schools that don't have he right facilities to offer subjects like photography shouldn't be offering them in the first place

[Flojo]

smfh at thinking there aren't people who actually spend their EMA on travel and equipment. I did a graphic design course and there was always sh*t to buy.

EMA was introduced to allow people who wanted to pursue higher education a bit of cash to help them maintain a slightly more comfortable life throughout their studies, if that means being able to kick back with a few drinks or do something as outlandish as buy themselves some clothes then I don't see the problem with that. Being in a healthy state to do the best you can at your studies goes far beyond simply having the text books you need.

you man are talking like man are going to Harrods with their EMA ffs.

[Grafter]

o yh and travel i spent it on travel

[Corrigan]

truesay tho when labour established the welfare state one of its key functions was to re-distribute wealth across the poorer sects of Britain

EMA was an embodiment of this promise, under the coalition we will see even more principles and functions of the welfare state eradicated

hope man like angelo and carpe are happy

[Guest Esquilax]

Depends on how you look at it

I don't think funding the social lives of Britain's collegiate is an effective enough use of tax money, and could be far more beneficial in other places

Like I said, I think the money saved should be pumped straight back into the schools to be used in the way that in the grand scheme EMA should have.

[Ulysses]

Depends on how you look at it

I don't think funding the social lives of Britain's collegiate is an effective enough use of tax money, and could be far more beneficial in other places

Like I said, I think the money saved should be pumped straight back into the schools to be used in the way that in the grand scheme EMA should have.

This.

[Guest Waka Flocka Dave]

for every 10 people that use it right theres always that one guy abusin it

dnt know why u should punish all the others for it when they actually need it, cos im sure theres people there who would abandon college and whatnot and have to work possibly parents cant or the income is too low to support the stuff needed for college and such

negativity always stands out more, thats what u notice, but dont ignore everyone else that needs it

[Mr Q]

C/S Smaddy, Jack, David and Flojo.

Considering the report is from an independent institute, not really sure how its any more of a lie than people just reeling off examples of what they know a few people to have spent their EMA on.

In lots of developing countries kids might want to go to school but are forced to work to bring in money, a scheme like EMA would work wonders actually. But its no use comparing the two, totally different needs etc

Education funding is sh*t, it should be one of the things we spend the most money on not take it away, kids should be encouraged to go to school, especially the poorest. But let me not get on my Sam Seaborne.

[Guest Esquilax]

Such a liberal Q lol

You're my don but f*ck

[Mr Q]

I know, I know.

I just believe in certain levels of equality and people being given chances to better themselves. There are a lot of cunts out there in the world, society doesn't need to make any more.

Also, I don't believe in that "airy fairy" course crap (unless its world art). It's pretentious and narrow minded, nothing wrong with people learning for learnings sake, society has geared people to look past this I think. (not that relevant but someone said something about certain courses above, I think)

[Yuri]

Money would be better spent on old people

Or introduce some kind of voucher system for books, cd's etc. instead of giving people cash

[Guest Esquilax]

Educational funding isn't going to get better if money is being spent on things like this. With the economic climate as it is more and more people will be able to claim EMA, whereas if the money is put into textbooks, facilities etc etc it has a better chance of benefiting more people on a wider scale

Our edu. system is pretty f*cked anyway tbh, it's in dire need of reformation

LOL at this nation if the NHS is privatised as well, I'm out

[kurious]

c/s dave that was me

spent mine on weed, pizza and lucozade

[Mr Q]

C/S - Yuri on the suggestion of vouchers, Food/Books/Music vouchers would be a lot better than straight £30.

On the point about old people, the government wastes serious money in that department anyway, there are certain old folk who don't need a freedom pass or the heating allowance but are given it. That needs to be revamped.

Also, I can actually see the NHS going private,purely because they could somehow justify the f*ckry in this climate, would be a f*ck*ng disaster and show the greed of our politicians/businessmen. But that's when the spirit of Guy needs to be be re-ignited.

I agree Esqui, Education in this country is shabby. The way it is funded, the curriculum, and how schools are ranked and given targets. Needs to be totally revamped, and a whole lot of money should go into training teachers and making our schools perform at high levels, like the kids in singapore.

[Yuri]

C/S - Yuri on the suggestion of vouchers, Food/Books/Music vouchers would be a lot better than straight £30.

Also, I can actually see the NHS going private,purely because they could somehow justify the f*ckry in this climate, would be a f*ck*ng disaster and show the greed of our politicians/businessmen. But that's when the spirit of Guy needs to be be re-ignited.

I agree Esqui, Education in this country is shabby. The way it is funded, the curriculum, and how schools are ranked and given targets. Needs to be totally revamped, and a whole lot of money should go into training teachers and making our schools perform at high levels, like the kids in singapore.

tbh the main difference between this country and places like singapore, china etc is the attitude of the students towards learning

[Corrigan]

real spit yo

[Guest Waka Flocka Dave]

nah NHS cant go private

nah no way, id actually hit the streets n fight for that sh*t

[Ulysses]

C/S - Yuri on the suggestion of vouchers, Food/Books/Music vouchers would be a lot better than straight £30.

Also, I can actually see the NHS going private,purely because they could somehow justify the f*ckry in this climate, would be a f*ck*ng disaster and show the greed of our politicians/businessmen. But that's when the spirit of Guy needs to be be re-ignited.

I agree Esqui, Education in this country is shabby. The way it is funded, the curriculum, and how schools are ranked and given targets. Needs to be totally revamped, and a whole lot of money should go into training teachers and making our schools perform at high levels, like the kids in singapore.

tbh the main difference between this country and places like singapore, china etc is the attitude of the students towards learning

Its true students in those parts of the world work so so hard, they have a confucian approach to education, and no sense of entitlement. Nobody is paying Singaporeans to go to college, and it is advanced economy with some of the best educational standards in the world. Increased funding will not solve anything, Labour has increased education funding year on year, but standards in maths and english have consistently fallen, some of the worst standards out of OCED countries. Same with Healthcare, the UK has some of the worst outcomes for illnesses in the developed world, despite so much extra funding has gone in. We have to look at countries like Singapore which have a much more affordable healthcare system, where the poor are looked after, they also have a degree of economic liberalism in their healthcare system

[Mr Q]

Pos'd Yuri.

Attitude is a big thing. How education is looked at needs to be changed. But how do you instil a passion to learn into our youngers? Can it be done or is all hope lost? Too many people indulged with the get quick rich lifestyle, rather than the spirit of hard-work.

I read kids in Singapore do not go to school until they're 7. The masses in this country would hate not being able to send their kids to school until that age.

[Guest Esquilax]

They need to realise that not everyone is academic, and can't/ don't want to do business studies n sh*t

Bring more hands on classes back, brickwork, metal work, building sh*t, electrician course, ICT needs to be more concise, so many avenues

[Ulysses]

They need to realise that not everyone is academic, and can't/ don't want to do business studies n sh*t

Bring more hands on classes back, brickwork, metal work, building sh*t, electrician course, ICT needs to be more concise, so many avenues

Posd.