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People around the world really do seem to be taking a stand against oppressive regimes.

Tunisia are in a state of emergency and the President has fled the country.

With a lot of major elections this year, Africa could see a lot more political violence.

Echoes of Tunisia's unprecedented mass unrest are reverberating across the Arab world – which is watching in fascination as one of the most repressive regimes in the regions makes far-reaching concessions to people power.

Protests over rising food and fuel prices triggered emergency economic measures from Jordan to Libya and Morocco this week as dramatic scenes of street clashes in the small north African country fuelled official nervousness about a domino effect that could shake other authoritarian states short on jobs, hopes and freedoms.

"Every Arab leader is watching Tunisia in fear," tweeted one Egyptian commentator. "Every Arab citizen is watching Tunisia in hope and solidarity."

The impact of Tunisia's unrest is all the greater because Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali – known to his long-suffering subjects as "Ben A Vie" ("president for life") – had been seen as one of the most effective of Arab autocrats. His announcement on Wednesday that he will not stand for another term is a huge boost for reform, whatever happens next.

The obvious contrast is with Egypt, the most populous of Arab countries. Hosni Mubarak, 82, who like Ben Ali keeps Islamists firmly out of power and tolerates only weak secular opposition, is seeking another presidential term next year- when he will mark three decades in power

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Always good to see tyrants get what their comeuppance. I'm just curious to see who/what will replace him.

This is what citizens of the Federal Republic of Nigeria should be doing. Even more so in Nigeria; the existence of an average tunisian is a lot more comfortable than their nigerian counterparts.

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Ain't sh*t going to happen in Nigeria. Bunch of half-arsed motherf*ckers.

Complain, complain, then get promised some material goods or a church/mosque and everything is forgotten. Like 2007/8

They need to do what they are doing in Sudan.

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sometimes its better the devil u know, hope tunisian government doesnt get filled with islamists, its been one of the most liberal arab countries up until now....

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on another note, if south sudan get independence, algeria will become the largest country in africa, we're all ready the best but that goes without saying.

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sometimes its better the devil u know, hope tunisian government doesnt get filled with islamists, its been one of the most liberal arab countries up until now....

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on another note, if south sudan get independence, algeria will become the largest country in africa, we're all ready the best but that goes without saying.

Best @ what?

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It's true though. The majority of Nigerians would never put their lives on the line for something abstract like human rights, the rule of law etc, but if there was a chance that they would be well remunerated then they would consider it. Everyone in that country has a price.

I don't have much confidence in how Southern Sudan will turn out, I fear that it will just be another kleptocratic sub-saharan country. I was reading that their leaders have already started to build palaces for themselves. Apparently they have already gone on shopping trips to Dubai.

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sometimes its better the devil u know, hope tunisian government doesnt get filled with islamists, its been one of the most liberal arab countries up until now....

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on another note, if south sudan get independence, algeria will become the largest country in africa, we're all ready the best but that goes without saying.

Best @ what?

just in general really

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Calls are multiplying for new protests tomorrow morning in all of Tunisia. People not happy with power transition arrangements.

Tunisians too early for congratulations, we did not succeed yet. power is still in the corrupt RCD party.

Situation has not been hijacked by islamist groups, and is without western backing

Tunisian regime clearly still fighting a rear-guard action to stay in power

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sometimes its better the devil u know, hope tunisian government doesnt get filled with islamists, its been one of the most liberal arab countries up until now....

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on another note, if south sudan get independence, algeria will become the largest country in africa, we're all ready the best but that goes without saying.

Best @ what?

just in general really

then your point is invalid until you come up with some reasons

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Its amazing how these countries will grant these bastards immunity instead of forcing them to face the music.

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For corruption in Nigeria to be stemmed it would require so much. Parties like PDP would need to be destroyed, and most of the political/influential elders would need to be placed in prison or exiled. But most importantly attitude would need to change and ethnic divisions patched up. The latter probs being just has hard to do as rooting out all the corrupt politicians.

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Its amazing how these countries will grant these bastards immunity instead of forcing them to face the music.

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For corruption in Nigeria to be stemmed it would require so much. Parties like PDP would need to be destroyed, and most of the political/influential elders would need to be placed in prison or exiled. But most importantly attitude would need to change and ethnic divisions patched up. The latter probs being just has hard to do as rooting out all the corrupt politicians.

cos its the same countries corrupting them and keeping them in power usually.

bombs going off in abuja recently right?

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Its amazing how these countries will grant these bastards immunity instead of forcing them to face the music.

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For corruption in Nigeria to be stemmed it would require so much. Parties like PDP would need to be destroyed, and most of the political/influential elders would need to be placed in prison or exiled. But most importantly attitude would need to change and ethnic divisions patched up. The latter probs being just has hard to do as rooting out all the corrupt politicians.

cos its the same countries corrupting them and keeping them in power usually.

bombs going off in abuja recently right?

Yeah, a few went off on New Years eve. Re-Ignition of violence in Jos and parts of the north.

The North and the South are two separate worlds.

Have a feeling April will see even more violence.

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Not even going to watch that video Timebomb posted. :mellow:

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Optimistically titled guardian article by journalist currently in Tunisia : Tunisia protests: 'The fear has gone … I've been waiting 20 years for today' http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/14/tunisia-protests-tunis-ben-ali

Al Jazeera English guest right now calls new ruler of #Tunisia "completely tainted" by the old regime. @MOTHERJONES

ex-Tunisian dictator #BenAli about to land in Paris BUT “highest levels of French State” do not want him, reports Le Monde

Calls are multiplying for new protests tomorrow morning in all of Tunisia. People not happy with power transition arrangements

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Al Arabiya speaks to the pilot who refused to transport Ben Ali's family: "They are war criminals. I refused to fly them out."

2025 GMT: Al Jazeera is now saying that President Ben Ali's plane is heading to a country in the Gulf. http://bit.ly/fhY8It

<WebAnon1525> ""Reuters quote a relative of Ben Ali saying he's heading to Dubai""

We have a report that flight TCX72HV arrived at London Gatewick Airport but we're not sure if Ben Ali is in there.

Al Jazeera reports from that city of Kasserine that lawyers are now protesting against Ghannouchi, asking him to respect the law & step down

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