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Foreign owners 'want end to Premier League relegation'

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Taking the piss if this ever went through

remember when they wanted 2 preimer leagues so league 1 clubs could never get up there

greed>>>>>

Several foreign-owned Premier League clubs want to scrap relegation, according to League Managers Association (LMA) chief Richard Bevan.

If more clubs are sold to foreigner investors, they may have enough votes to force through the change.

But Bevan hopes that a government-led inquiry can help prevent the proposal.

"We're very keen that the report is successful in helping the Football Association introduce a licensing programme for clubs," he said.

"Because there are a number of overseas-owned clubs already talking about bringing about the avoidance of promotion and relegation in the Premier League.

"If we have four or five more new owners, that could happen."

Nearly half of the Premier League's 20 clubs are under foreign ownership, with rules stipulating that if changes are to be made to the format, 14 clubs must vote in favour of any new reforms.

Blackburn joined the likes of Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea in this class when they were taken over by Indian-owned Venky's Group last season.

But the Premier League said the move would be a non-starter, stating that relegation and promotion was part of its rules and added to the strength of the competition.

The claim by LMA chief executive Bevan comes a week after the government demanded changes to the way that football is run.

Sports minister Hugh Robertson said that an FA-led licensing system would be brought in to safeguard against issues such as financial mismanagement, asset-stripping owners and tax avoidance.

The government also asked for rules to manage club debts and an overhaul of the FA board.

Last Wednesday, Liverpool's managing director Ian Ayre also said the Premier League's overseas television revenues should be skewed in favour of big clubs.

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them man can fuck off.

tryna protect their investment

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The thing is, do they want to do it to they can put in more of their own investment in without fear of losing their spot & ruining the club or are they just protecting their investment?

If its the first, then it would mean a very competitive league, but then again man should just start running their clubs like profit making businesses, so I cant defend it at all.

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You'd make the Premier League stronger while destroying the rest of the football league.

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I don't really believe this story, sounds like BNP esque scare mongering from the LMA.

Man Utd

Liverpool

Arsenal

Chelsea

Man City

QPR

Blackburn

Villa

Looking at that list how many of these clubs are really concerned with relegation to the point they'd vote in something as drastic as this?

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ESL

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will never happen

if no relegation then where's the space for promotion

scaremongering

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I don't really believe this story, sounds like BNP esque scare mongering from the LMA.

Man Utd

Liverpool

Arsenal

Chelsea

Man City

QPR

Blackburn

Villa

Looking at that list how many of these clubs are really concerned with relegation to the point they'd vote in something as drastic as this?

Sunderland

Fulham

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will never happen

if no relegation then where's the space for promotion

scaremongering

there would be no Promotion,

teams may be elected in, and possibly elected out.

David Conn said this would happen in 2005

not close to happening imo but football will go one of theee ways and possibly a mix off two,

1,seperate TV Rights,

2,European Super league

or 3 Abolision of relegation from the premiership

it'll be 1,2 or 3

or 1 &2 or 3

from when the Premier league was made seperate from the football league the writing was on the wall, imo i don't claim to have known this at the time (given my age when it was done) but shit like that was the first straw.

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I don't really believe this story, sounds like BNP esque scare mongering from the LMA.

Man Utd

Liverpool

Arsenal

Chelsea

Man City

QPR

Blackburn

Villa

Looking at that list how many of these clubs are really concerned with relegation to the point they'd vote in something as drastic as this?

its not just a case of being scared of relegation,

its a thing where if it was only the "true elite" of English football playing in this league, where the likes of Bill Kenwright and Dave Whelen were able to throw caution to the wind and go all out to try and compete due to there being no threat of Relegation,

and also end of the season game would be more exciting as even though some teams would have nothing to play for they could go gung ho in the knowledge that relegation wouldnt be on the cards as it could be now,

they could theoretically demand more money for what probably would be a more exciting league. (tv rights wise)

a mere gaurentee of an extra £10 mill a season to these clubs would have them licking there lips,and in reality were probably talking a lot more money than that in the medium to long term,

i expect the Goverment to quash any of this talk in the bud very quickly though,

a better question for you to ask is, out of all those clubs you named, which one would say no to this,

as the only reason to say no would be to protect the traditions of the game, imo that isn't really a priority for the owners of the vast majority of clubs,

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The pendulum swing both ways. Dont you think it could allow for a more boring league, with teams that have realised the title is no longer within grasp having nothing to care about towards the end of the season.

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European Super League would be a waste of time!

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The thing is though that it would be similar to the way the sports leagues in America work so the location of clubs would be a big factor in whether or not they'd be included. A lot of the clubs that might be up for this at first glance need to think long and hard about how it could work against them.

For example Wigan are poorly supported, have little tradition of being a big club and are situated in Lancashire where there are arguably at least 4 teams with more pulling power so they'd probably be elected out within a few years of it getting off the ground.

Where you've got 2 clubs in an average sized city would also be something that would work against some clubs.

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The pendulum swing both ways. Dont you think it could allow for a more boring league, with teams that have realised the title is no longer within grasp having nothing to care about towards the end of the season.

So it'd be no different to how it is now, except for the added bonus (in their eyes) that the teams lower in the league won't be just playing it safe and will keep going to win games, instead if parking the bus in order to secure what would've been safety.

European Super League would be a waste of time!

For who?

Financially in the short term it would be massively profitable,

Then when the hype dies out the relevant teams would slunk of back to their leagues, who will be more than happy to gave their cash cows back,

The thing is though that it would be similar to the way the sports leagues in America work so the location of clubs would be a big factor in whether or not they'd be included. A lot of the clubs that might be up for this at first glance need to think long and hard about how it could work against them.

For example Wigan are poorly supported, have little tradition of being a big club and are situated in Lancashire where there are arguably at least 4 teams with more pulling power so they'd probably be elected out within a few years of it getting off the ground.

Where you've got 2 clubs in an average sized city would also be something that would work against some clubs.

True, but these clubs are in the minority

As you say this will burn Wigan and possibly Blackburn in the long term, the Bristol clubs or at least one if them anyway will be licking their lips at the prospect. Only needs 14 teams to pass the ruling. If I'm correct.

Looking at the league, I reckon if they're serious about it, and the people who are really on it can sell it to the others they'll easily get the 14

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Villa statement -

We were confused and surprised by Mr Bevan's remarks today stating that unnamed American and Asian owners have been talking about scrapping promotion and relegation to the Premier League.

If he intended this group to specifically include Aston Villa, as could be inferred by his comments, then we would ask him to confirm as much.

We might also add that the founding of the Football League in 1888 was led by a previous Chairman of Aston Villa, William McGregor.

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2485202,00.html

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Swear they could've just come out and outright denied the whole thing, and lay their cards on the table,

not commiting either way

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