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what are the best ones u've seen? Maybe not even the best, just really good ones. Mine best might actually be this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk1zABlXoRE&list=FLLDfChCxUWlpz8c3FThSYmQ&index=12&feature=plpp_video

some mad documentary on detroit.

the jew lawyer>>>>>>>>>

casually reminiscing about helping guys bus case for murder and gun charges.

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download gangland

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download gangland

That's dead

annoying voice, dead reconstructions in funny colours, every time there's a break, they spend 5 minutes showing what happened before the break

watch some of the sh*t on here - www.youtube.com/user/GangsterShitVideos/videos

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One of the best docs I've seen on gangs

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Been watching a lot of American Gangsters on BET

The Chambers Brothers, were 4 brothers who were selling coke. At their height they were making more money than Chrysler !!! The filme New Jack City was heavly based on them. As normal with their downfall was there stupidty, they were raided and a ton of home videos were found with them flashing their cash and stuff etc and Police found out that they were all related, prior to that they had no clue.

http://www.bet.com/video/americangangster/season1highlights/could-the-chambers-have-succee-213936.html

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The Frank Lucas one on BET is good too.

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Got a load on my sky box which is now broken so I need a new one all my gangster documentrys will be gone :(

Essex boys one is good. Prefer books to be honest. Read urban smuggler also got a few other ones that talk about hackney and tottenham beef. Holly street beef with next hackney areas good reads.

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Yeah Essex boys book is much better of course, read that a good few times now.

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The Frank Lucas one on BET is good too.

Does that one expose his alleged lies about his time with Bumpy etc...?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSX0CXjzDS8

anyone remember this?

after watching the wire and coming back to this its mad how much they got right, even if it is in philly.

1:20 in when he realises he's been recorded, lmfao, everytime.

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The Frank Lucas one on BET is good too.

Does that one expose his alleged lies about his time with Bumpy etc...?

No just talks about Bumpy being his mentor.

Do you mean Nicky Barnes ? Nicky wanted Lucas to work for him but Lucas refused. Thats all that was said.

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The Frank Lucas one on BET is good too.

Does that one expose his alleged lies about his time with Bumpy etc...?

No just talks about Bumpy being his mentor.

Do you mean Nicky Barnes ? Nicky wanted Lucas to work for him but Lucas refused. Thats all that was said.

- lol, watch, maybe claim to fame perhaps

And also 3rd para on the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lucas#Depictions_in_media

Many of Lucas' other claims, as presented in the film, have also been called into question, such as being the right hand man of Bumpy Johnson, rising above the power of the mafia and Nicky Barnes, and that he was the mastermind behind the Golden Triangle heroin connection of the 1970s. Ron Chepesiuk, a biographer of Frank Lucas, deemed the story as a myth. Associated Press entertainment writer Frank Coyle noted that "this mess happened partially because journalists have been relying on secondary sources removed from the actual events."[10]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-wlriYA3iQ

Good doc on Jane & Finch in Toronto, saw this years back, the Vietnamese brudda Chucky is mad :lol:

The way they jump the dude who was selling counterfeit money :rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNdrLgC98U8

90s doc on the Shower Posse, as well as a couple other domestic JA, and 'foreign' Yardie gangs. Features a couple of 'big man' openly speaking on camera about the way things 'used' to run, the political connections, etc. Also touches on the UK connections, the links with Bristol/London.

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Loads of people linked to Shower in London, mainly from Ghetto (now Shower) and N17N15. Current worldwide don of dons, Christopher Dudas Coke - his father first came to London with other Shower dons in 1980's

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The Frank Lucas one on BET is good too.

Does that one expose his alleged lies about his time with Bumpy etc...?

No just talks about Bumpy being his mentor.

Do you mean Nicky Barnes ? Nicky wanted Lucas to work for him but Lucas refused. Thats all that was said.

- lol, watch, maybe claim to fame perhaps

And also 3rd para on the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lucas#Depictions_in_media

Many of Lucas' other claims, as presented in the film, have also been called into question, such as being the right hand man of Bumpy Johnson, rising above the power of the mafia and Nicky Barnes, and that he was the mastermind behind the Golden Triangle heroin connection of the 1970s. Ron Chepesiuk, a biographer of Frank Lucas, deemed the story as a myth. Associated Press entertainment writer Frank Coyle noted that "this mess happened partially because journalists have been relying on secondary sources removed from the actual events."[10]

Oh yeah they was confusion as to thought up of the idea to bring coke from Narm to USA

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One Order >>> Shower

JLP gangs were always a little more violent than PNP ones, I think I'm right in saying that they were the aggressors during the political troubles of the '70s. The PNP was forced to react, and it led to the rise of the 'Cubans'. I know an older guy who was sent to Cuba to train as a brigadista/guerrilla during the Manley years.

Who knows about Skeng Don, the big PNP man from Mandeville/Clarendon?

Skeng is the Don of Dons, IMO.

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When I say 'Don of Dons', I mean as in don of all the Shower dons, rather than D-of-D period. He was in charge of Shower, and also in charge of Shower dons based in other countries.

It's funny you mention Skeng, there is a Jamaican national in south London who goes by the name Skeng, he is from Tivoli.

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TBH.

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Yeah you're right No

When I say 'Don of Dons', I mean as in don of all the Shower dons, rather than D-of-D period. He was in charge of Shower, and also in charge of Shower dons based in other countries.

It's funny you mention Skeng, there is a Jamaican national in south London who goes by the name Skeng, he is from Tivoli.

:lol:

Skeng's game is getting government contracts, suing JLP leaders for defamation (he forced Edward Seaga to apologize for calling him a gangster), general 'runnings', and being an overall dads of all dads. He is a businessman, but he is also a huge philanthropist.

I'm interested to know why guys like DVS, Krept/Konan etc are all shouting out One Order now.

The crew itself was set up by Andrew 'Bun Man' Hope (geddit?) and rumour would have it, JLP sports minister Olivia 'Babsy' Grange. It was an attempt to co-ordinate the activites of JLP affiliated crews, and bring them under 'One Order'.

From Wikileaks:

CONTENT:

C O N F I D E N T I A L KINGSTON 000318

SIPDIS

STATE FOR WHA/CAR (BENT), INL/LP (BOZZOLO)

E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/11/2014

TAGS: PREL, PGOV, KCRM, SNAR, JM

SUBJECT: MURDER OF SPANISH TOWN CRIMINAL LEADER AGAIN CALLS

ATTENTION TO HIS LINKS TO JLP MP

REF: A. HENDERSON/BENT 2/13 E-MAIL

B. 04 KINGSTON 01956

Classified By: A/DCM Ronald S. Robinson for reasons 1.4 (B) and (d).

1. © The February 8 murder of Andrew "Bun Man" Hope, the

leader of Spanish Town's One Order gang, while Hope sat in a

vehicle registered to Jamaica Labour Party (JLP) Member of

Parliament Olivia "Babsy" Grange, again drew attention to the

deceased man's ties to Grange. Witnesses alleged that it was

a JCF officer who shot Hope and would not permit officers to

remove his body from the vehicle. The JCF had to call in

reinforcements to restrain angry residents and to secure the

crime scene for investigation. Gang supporters torched the

old courthouse, burned cars and mounted roadblocks. A

probation office was firebombed causing extensive damage to

the building and cars parked on the compound. Government

offices and schools were closed and bus services were

terminated for two days following the uprising. Police

contacts stated that Hope was parked in Grange's vehicle in

Spanish Town when several men dressed in khakis, alighted

from another vehicle, and shot him eleven times. The police

theorize that the assailants were members of the rival

People's National Party (PNP) affiliated "Klansmen" gang.

2. © The murder of "Bun Man" is the second killing in two

years of a prominent gang leader with ties to Grange.

Ironically, in August 2004, former One Order gang Leader

Oliver "Bubba" Smith was murdered in a vehicle that was also

registered to Grange (Ref A). At that time the JCF

questioned Grange about her relationship with Smith, but

there was no formal investigation. In response to media

inquiries, Grange stated that she registered the car in her

name "to help out one of her constituents."

3. © During a 2003 media interview, Grange said that being

an MP and community-oriented activist required that she be in

contact with many different kinds of people, and that "I see

people as people, I hold no pretenses, and I can dine with

kings and walk with beggars. Because I am in touch with the

community, people believe that I am involved, but I am not

involved in any criminal activity." In private, however,

Grange was more forthcoming with NAS Director regarding her

relationship with Hope. Shortly after an October shooting

incident following a peace meeting between the One Order and

Klansmen gangs, Grange said she had attended the meeting and

had been accompanied in her vehicle by Hope when gunmen

opened fire on her motorcade, killing a nearby motorcyclist.

Grange matter-of-factly told NAS Director that she had known

Hope since he was a boy and that she considered herself to be

his "mentor". She repeatedly described herself as a product

of West Kingston, that she understood "the way things work"

there, and that Hope is "the least of the evils." She said

further that she did not think of Hope as a criminal. When

NAS Director pointed out that an individual who is the leader

of criminals and who directs criminal activities is himself a

criminal, Grange agreed, but seemed genuinely unable to grasp

that concept.

4. © Comment: Calm has since been restored to the Old

Capital, schools and businesses have reopened, and the

investigation into Hope's killing continues. Unfortunately,

incidents such as these demonstrate that the relationships

between criminals, politicians, and violence are still widely

tolerated in both the political and private sectors. It was

Grange's candor in the October discussion, not her close

association with a known criminal, that we found most

illuminating. Many Jamaican politicians continue to maintain

mutually beneficial links with such figures, but most do a

better job than Grange of maintaining a fig leaf of

deniability. End Comment.

JOHNSON

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