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If  a woman gets wrecked its her porogative to do so. It doesn't then mean a man can take advantage because she didnt look after herself. Gettin wrecked doesnt go hand in hand with sex

Wearing  a condom does. A man is a unique position because he has control over the condom where a woman does not. This gives him power and th e ability to take advantage in the moment. He also has the power to protect himself in the moment regardless of whether the woman has or has not taken the pill

 

I do understand any point being made regards both parties being totally wrecked and the claim of rape being questionable if neither party remembers.

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Cognitive decision making can still be functional under the influence of alcohol. A lack of memory the next day doesn't mean that 24hrs ago, the person wasn't happy and willingly consenting to what transpired. It's not up to a men to put a women through a series of suitability tests before sex. 

And yes most of the time it will be 2 drunk individuals in the cases I'm referring to. But as the rape law is exclusively pinned to women, you could have two people who don't remember the night but only one being held entirely accountable for law (which has happened btw).

I agree with what you're saying about the position a men is in, but in the case in particular, the defenses whole argument was that the sex was non consenting because she never would've agreed to sex if the defendant hadn't wore a condom.

So him taking it off without her knowledge broke that consent. So if a man consents to sex with a woman under the pretext that she  advised she was using contraception, but never was, a man has no legal standing what so ever. It can't be classified as rape as it doesn't exist for a man, and the child will be his financial responsibility by law. Even if the man advised he would've never had sex with her if she wasn't using protection, it would change nothing.

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3 hours ago, Grafter said:

Each of us has to take responsibility for ourselves. It is not acceptable to cry fowl because you believed a woman said she was on the pill. If you don't want a child it is your responsibility to take the necessary precautions to stop that from happening. I.e. wear a condom or abstain

If a man gets caught out like that, yes the woman is a total fuckry. But you only have yourself to blame. No one forced you to have sex.

 

If a woman whipped off your condom during sex an somehow u were unaware then thats the same as the other way round. But this believing someone is on the pill is silly

 

 

OK..

 

 

WHAT IF U BANG A WOMAN

 

U BOTH AGREE *U DONT LIKE GOMS*

 

*OK ILL PULL OUT*

 

*OK BABE NO PROBLEM*

 

 

YOURE ABOUT TO BUSS.... AND SHE WRAPS HER THICK LEGS AROUND YOU, SO YOU CANT BACK OUT.........

 

 

 

 

WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT SCENARIO?????

 

 

AND NOW ALL YOUR CUM HAS BEEN SHOT ALL UP INSIDE OF HER....... WHAT HAPPENS THERE??????

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3 hours ago, Heero Yuy said:

Cognitive decision making can still be functional under the influence of alcohol. A lack of memory the next day doesn't mean that 24hrs ago, the person wasn't happy and willingly consenting to what transpired. It's not up to a men to put a women through a series of suitability tests before sex. 

And yes most of the time it will be 2 drunk individuals in the cases I'm referring to. But as the rape law is exclusively pinned to women, you could have two people who don't remember the night but only one being held entirely accountable for law (which has happened btw).

I agree with what you're saying about the position a men is in, but in the case in particular, the defenses whole argument was that the sex was non consenting because she never would've agreed to sex if the defendant hadn't wore a condom.

So him taking it off without her knowledge broke that consent. So if a man consents to sex with a woman under the pretext that she  advised she was using contraception, but never was, a man has no legal standing what so ever. It can't be classified as rape as it doesn't exist for a man, and the child will be his financial responsibility by law. Even if the man advised he would've never had sex with her if she wasn't using protection, it would change nothing.

But if he really didn't want a baby he can still have worn a condom 

In the case of him whipping it off the woman has no similar option. 

 

@underwriter thats rapey

Im not saying the law shouldn't be improved to recognise violations againsten by women

Just think the discussion should lean more that way then discreditin a violation against  a woman because there is no law protecting men in similar situations

 

Annd when it comes to drunk decision making. I cannot tell you what my thought processes have been when ive been too drunk to remember. So cant say how functional i really was.

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Meant to say improved to recognise violation against men

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A woman can tell if a condom comes off, and she should be responsible for checking and being able to tell, so that Swiss case is definitely not rape.

It's not like he can take the condom off while it's fully inside her, surely he took his d*ck out, took off the condom then went back in which would have felt completely different and she would have wondered what he was doing while the d*ck was out. 

BUT

A man shouldn't be taking her word for it that she's on birth control and shouldn't buss into her if he doesn't want a baby.

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Chapps, that would be rape by legal definitions because You were trying to withdraw and end the intercourse, but if there was no conviction and You found Yourself financially responsible I wouldn't sympathise with You.

even if she wraps her legs around You, You should be able to use one of Your hands to pull it out

I think You're leaving Your pullout game a little too late, and maybe giving away too much info about when You're gonna cum to Your partners. 

TBH if You're leaving it that late, You probably can't control where it goes and You'd probably spray the outside of the vaj and it would leak in

Or it would go on her body and she would still be able to wipe her finger on it and put that finger into her vaj

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what if the dom splits and you didnt realise 

Are you still liable then?

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For a child yes. You're the man wearing it You should apply it correctly and know when it splits

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