Drug Dealers vs Fraudsters/Thieves

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Parents being nittys ain't the dealers fault.

I hear what you are saying. Of course the dealer has no moral obligation, but this topic from what I gathered is from an outside looking in moral judgement.

Morally speaking when selling herion and crack, you are fully aware of what those drugs do to the users life and those around them.

[Yung bawse]

why do we have to assume its heroin and crack when the majority of dealers are moving weed/coke/pills

 

no form of fraud is fair.. shotting couple pills to some young bucks so they can get off their tits at a rave on a Saturday night is harmless

[Kuffir]

why do we have to assume fraud aint using a fake bus pass or thieving aint stealing a bag of haribo

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Why do we assume robberies and fraud are not committed on rich people who can afford to lose the money?

[Yung bawse]

Whether they can afford to lose it or not is irrelevant, it's a loss they didnt want and didn't agree to..

 

selling something to someone who wants and agrees to buy it is completely different

[Supermalt]

do what you can to feed your family

 

by destroying others?

[Thizz]

What are you man gonna say when they legalise all drugs?

[Kuffir]

didnt even wanna start typing anyway

 

same guy that will say "what do dealers have to do with the parents being nittys its just business" will be in another thread calling a man a scumbag n saying he should be hanged for killing his business rival 

 

overstandment is not there

 

from selling drugs can involve/lead to both thieving and fraud + more nuff said

[SLEAZE BALL]

Why are fraudsters/theives being put in the same pigeonhole?

[Mame Biram Diouf]

do what you can to feed your family

 

Join the army?

 

-If you are uneducated you can learn to read and write

 

-You get money to feed your family

 

-Career opps to get a job in a different industry after a few years or work your way up internally

 

-No risk of going prison

[dom dom bullets]

Why are fraudsters/theives being put in the same pigeonhole?

 

Taking what doesn't belong to you I guess

[Mame Biram Diouf]

What are you man gonna say when they legalise all drugs?

 

Not sure what legality has to do with morality 

[SLEAZE BALL]

Yeh but there is a big difference between Bernie Madoff and your local distraction burglar

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Whether they can afford to lose it or not is irrelevant, it's a loss they didnt want and didn't agree to..

 

selling something to someone who wants and agrees to buy it is completely different

 

Are drug addicts consciously agreeing to buy drugs?

 

Same as what Fresh said about it being a choice to buy drugs and become addicted

 

Some people go through and see so much that they turn to drugs rather than suicide

 

It has been proven that children who experience 4 or more serious traumas as a child are X amount of times more likely to become drug addicts when they are older, now looking at it black and white, yes they make a choice to buy the drugs for the first time, but there are things going on underneath that most people couldn't even fathom or live with.

 

So to generalise and say ''it is a choice'' IMO is just totally wrong 

[SLEAZE BALL]

What are you man gonna say when they legalise all drugs?

Not sure what legality has to do with morality

Your talkin about drugs are worse than alcohol as if legality has nothing to do with how or why you've formed this opinion

[Kuffir]

chances of success in the drug game u might as well join d army

 

user aint the only one suffering in the relationship

[underwriter]

fraud is worse because there is no acceptance.

 

when you are a drug dealer there is an 'offer vs acceptance' = a transaction

 

fraud is utter deception and hoodwinking the person/company

 

now if you put it into a physical being , drug dealing/drugs is worse because as well all know you can get beat up, stabbed, shot etc

 

with fraud who do you know that happen to? very very little

[Mame Biram Diouf]

 

 

What are you man gonna say when they legalise all drugs?

Not sure what legality has to do with morality

Your talkin about drugs are worse than alcohol as if legality has nothing to do with how or why you've formed this opinion

 

 

Legality has no place in my belief that Drugs are worse than Alcohol at all

[Kuffir]

it depends what scale you are using to measure "worse" but even then its still top in the rankings

 

ruined lives

drugs - wars start because of this sh*t

 

capital gained (from misery)

drugs - wars are funded with this sh*t

 

prison sentences

drug sentences are harsher

 

gateway to other crimes effect

drug dealing usually begets more illegality

[Supermalt]

 

 

do what you can to feed your family

 

Join the army?

 

-If you are uneducated you can learn to read and write

 

-You get money to feed your family

 

-Career opps to get a job in a different industry after a few years or work your way up internally

 

-No risk of going prison

 

 

yeah getting your foot blown off by an ied for £16k a year so you come home fully disabled sure helps the fam doesnt it.

 

drug dealing doesnt = moving rocks to some nitty who thieved a tv from a kids bedroom 

 

and fraud doesnt = cloning some old dears bank details and spending her pension

 

 

so it depends on the victim?

 

obviously things aint just black and white, but the line has been crossed into justifying this shit

 

at least if i commit a crime to feed my family, i know full well its fuckery

 

aint no depends

[Mame Biram Diouf]

 

 

do what you can to feed your family

 

Join the army?

 

-If you are uneducated you can learn to read and write

 

-You get money to feed your family

 

-Career opps to get a job in a different industry after a few years or work your way up internally

 

-No risk of going prison

 

 

yeah getting your foot blown off by an ied for £16k a year so you come home fully disabled sure helps the fam doesnt it.

 

 

On a global scale I would willing to stick my neck out and say those killed or wounded as a result of drug pushing related activities is much, much higher than the amount of soldiers in the army injured or killed on the battlefield

 

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Joining the army doesnt = Being in an active warzone 

[Yung bawse]

My bad i thought we were on about common drug dealers, not Mexican drug lords

[dom dom bullets]

You can't really say one is worse than the other, it's more of a case vs case situation imo