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  5. Vegan Gang

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    That's not really evidence though, was looking more for scientific studies or similar. 

    Regarding lobby groups, its probably worth noting that that works both ways, with meat/farming lobbyists sponsoring loads of studies and marketing promoting meat (also these are much larger more powerful groups) so do you also abstain from meat due to the conflicting evidence?

     

  6. Vegan Gang

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    3 hours ago, SLEAZE BALL said:

    Eating a diet consisting of mainly processed plant based foods that are high in salt sugar and saturated fat that isn't nutritionally balanced negate the benefits of a "vegan" diet over a diet that includes meat like the Japanese traditionally eat

    You won't find science that contradicts that sentiment ??

    Yeah I hear that but, tofu is low in of those things and contains less sodium and less saturated fat than a chicken breast. Plus it contains zero cholesterol, much less than chicken. So to me that does not make chicken healthier in any way.

    I'm using tofu cos you said chicken>tofu, but perhaps you were referring to more stuff like Quorn chicken nuggets etc?

  7. Vegan Gang

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    1 hour ago, SLEAZE BALL said:

    If the point of a person being "vegan" is to eat healthy and you understand that a vegan sausage roll is processed to fuck and inherently not healthy then eating it would defeat the purpose of being "vegan" for health reasons IMO

    If the point of a person being vegan is for ethical reasons I don't understand why they would find themselves in an establishment that supports ethics they claim to be against to buy a vegan sausage roll in the first place

    Just to be clear I don't FEEL any type of way about it particularly

    I just see such behaviour for what it is which is an example of the hypocritical/performative nature of humans these days

    In answer to the health bit...

    I agree processed is processed. But look at it this way (and let's assume we all agree animal products are unhealthy for the purposes of this, I know you probably don't agree with that but go with me):

    Let's say your day to day omnivore eats, in equal proportions, clean animal products (unhealthy), processed animal products (unhealthy), clean plant based (healthy) and processed plant based (unhealthy)

    Then say your vegan dieter eats, again in equal proportions, clean plant based (healthy) and processed plant based (healthy).

    I know it's a crude example, but do you see where Im coming from with this?

  8. Vegan Gang

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    48 minutes ago, SLEAZE BALL said:

    Nothing wrong with it if you like to eat it at all

    But if you're eating with health benefits in mind it's probably important that you know a nice lean piece of chicken breast>>>tofu health wise so perhaps eating it would be counter productive in terms of your desired outcome 

    You got any evidence supporting this? 

    Because from the evidence I've seen that's not true. Happy to be proven wrong, I'll always go with what science has proven.

  12. Vegan Gang

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    So are you saying eating that sausage roll is actually WORSE for you than eating a normal sausage roll? Because that was your point. Imo it's not worse, it's just also unhealthy.

    Obviously you can still eat junk food as a vegan. I waxed off a whole packet of double creme oreos last night, for example

    And also bear in mind, probably the most important thing to remember against your claim, is that most vegans are not vegan for health purposes.

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