Grime Music is the reason there are more stabbings and shootings?

[Matholomew]

over the knee high leather boots>>>>music, in all aspects, is a reflection/mirror of society im not saying it dosent serve as an influence, but its more of a deperate cry 4 help/attention its easy 2 use it as a scapegoat, because by banning certain artists and tunes, those in power can look like they are doing something about the situation, the situation which runs 1000 x deeper than channel U

pics or didnt happen

[kurious]

i guess it happened

[Guest Tronics]

no grime is another excusethe sad fact of the matter is that it is a racial one..violent stabbings and shootings in london are carried out by black people

[HBK]

Music is a reflection of what is going on in society. Music never encourages free-willed people to perform acts, it simply reflects the mentality and attitudes of the people who make or listen to it.

[Sub_Zero]

no grime is another excusethe sad fact of the matter is that it is a racial one..violent stabbings and shootings in london are carried out by black people

Go marry your cousin.

[Trane]

I was saying to him the music is a like a youth music and youth music is rebellious it always has been from them rock n roll punk ska rave etc all what the music does is give a voice to whats happening and what people are thinking same way it has from rock n roll punk ska etc

real talk

except the rebellion of old was "My son has grown shoulder length hair and is smoking cigarettes all thanks to The Beatles"compared to"My son has just murdered a young woman and raped her corpse all thanks to Wiley"

VERY good point.

[Trane]

Music nowadays is NEVER a reflection of society. Its just talentless idiot running about telling other idiot whatever will make them look less like an idiot. Music nowadays represents and reflects nothing but the extreme minority of idiots in this country who feel they are superior enough to speak for the rest of us.Part of the problem really, people see Wiley as a reflection of society. IMAGINE THAT

[Guest PennyTraitor]

lol bullshit. MOST actual road guys arent even on the grime ting. the negative side to grime obviously doesnt help but sayin that since grime came about crimes got worse is something people say who havent been on the roads.

[Guest Mickey Kane]

I was saying to him the music is a like a youth music and youth music is rebellious it always has been from them rock n roll punk ska rave etc all what the music does is give a voice to whats happening and what people are thinking same way it has from rock n roll punk ska etc

real talk

except the rebellion of old was "My son has grown shoulder length hair and is smoking cigarettes all thanks to The Beatles"compared to"My son has just murdered a young woman and raped her corpse all thanks to Wiley"

Yeah, like Billy Greyweather was living in the same conditions in the 60's than Jerome Patricks in the year 2007...

[Guest RBG]

People in here are chatting bare sh*t....You think Grime Artists make music to encourage Teens to go out and kill each other?On a level nowadays not many Grime Artists spit about going out and killing other people....They talk bout real life, what its really like to be young males living in London....Grime Music gives a voice to people that would not normally be given a voice anywere else...If major labels signed for grime artists then maybe it would lead to even more positive music...For years the authorties in the UK and USA have tried to blame crime on music and the people fall for the bait stereotypes every single time...Its no R.A who brings guns and drugs into the country, its not R.A who gives teens nothing other to do then try make money or have fights....Its much much much deeper then Grime....Grime is a positive movement imo....If it wernt for grime there would probably even more crime because there would be even less stuff for teens to focus on...If you throw lots of poor familes with children onto a rundown estate with guns and drugs circulating of course there is gonna be deaths....You cant blame music for that...IMO the media and goverment are just trying to find something to blame it on because they know the truth lies closer to home then some guys spitting...

[Guest PennyTraitor]

People in here are chatting bare sh*t....You think Grime Artists make music to encourage Teens to go out and kill each other?On a level nowadays not many Grime Artists spit about going out and killing other people....They talk bout real life, what its really like to be young males living in London....Grime Music gives a voice to people that would not normally be given a voice anywere else...If major labels signed for grime artists then maybe it would lead to even more positive music...For years the authorties in the UK and USA have tried to blame crime on music and the people fall for the bait stereotypes every single time...Its no R.A who brings guns and drugs into the country, its not R.A who gives teens nothing other to do then try make money or have fights....Its much much much deeper then Grime....Grime is a positive movement imo....If it wernt for grime there would probably even more crime because there would be even less stuff for teens to focus on...If you throw lots of poor familes with children onto a rundown estate with guns and drugs circulating of course there is gonna be deaths....You cant blame music for that...IMO the media and goverment are just trying to find something to blame it on because they know the truth lies closer to home then some guys spitting...

basically.whats worse is u get ppl who know nothing about that lifestyle thinking the have sufficient insight to comment, like we've seen in this topic.

[Guest RBG]

Music nowadays is NEVER a reflection of society. Its just talentless idiot running about telling other idiot whatever will make them look less like an idiot. Music nowadays represents and reflects nothing but the extreme minority of idiots in this country who feel they are superior enough to speak for the rest of us.Part of the problem really, people see Wiley as a reflection of society. IMAGINE THAT

You sound like apart of the problem...Of course music reflects society, it always has and it always will...How can you say people likedizzie rascaldimplesdevlinwretch 32bashygoodzghettoscorcherblack the ripperimpulsetinchyetc etc are talentlesssum bullshitIf you think you have more important things to say whats stopping you from doing it otherwise you might aswell just jam and stop hating..

[Guest RBG]

People in here are chatting bare sh*t....You think Grime Artists make music to encourage Teens to go out and kill each other?On a level nowadays not many Grime Artists spit about going out and killing other people....They talk bout real life, what its really like to be young males living in London....Grime Music gives a voice to people that would not normally be given a voice anywere else...If major labels signed for grime artists then maybe it would lead to even more positive music...For years the authorties in the UK and USA have tried to blame crime on music and the people fall for the bait stereotypes every single time...Its no R.A who brings guns and drugs into the country, its not R.A who gives teens nothing other to do then try make money or have fights....Its much much much deeper then Grime....Grime is a positive movement imo....If it wernt for grime there would probably even more crime because there would be even less stuff for teens to focus on...If you throw lots of poor familes with children onto a rundown estate with guns and drugs circulating of course there is gonna be deaths....You cant blame music for that...IMO the media and goverment are just trying to find something to blame it on because they know the truth lies closer to home then some guys spitting...

basically.whats worse is u get ppl who know nothing about that lifestyle thinking the have sufficient insight to comment, like we've seen in this topic.

Exactly....

[Guest Tronics]

People in here are chatting bare sh*t....You think Grime Artists make music to encourage Teens to go out and kill each other?On a level nowadays not many Grime Artists spit about going out and killing other people....They talk bout real life, what its really like to be young males living in London....Grime Music gives a voice to people that would not normally be given a voice anywere else...If major labels signed for grime artists then maybe it would lead to even more positive music...For years the authorties in the UK and USA have tried to blame crime on music and the people fall for the bait stereotypes every single time...Its no R.A who brings guns and drugs into the country, its not R.A who gives teens nothing other to do then try make money or have fights....Its much much much deeper then Grime....Grime is a positive movement imo....If it wernt for grime there would probably even more crime because there would be even less stuff for teens to focus on...If you throw lots of poor familes with children onto a rundown estate with guns and drugs circulating of course there is gonna be deaths....You cant blame music for that...IMO the media and goverment are just trying to find something to blame it on because they know the truth lies closer to home then some guys spitting...

There's hope...

[Guest The Member]

Music nowadays is NEVER a reflection of society. Its just talentless idiot running about telling other idiot whatever will make them look less like an idiot. Music nowadays represents and reflects nothing but the extreme minority of idiots in this country who feel they are superior enough to speak for the rest of us.Part of the problem really, people see Wiley as a reflection of society. IMAGINE THAT

You sound like apart of the problem...Of course music reflects society, it always has and it always will...How can you say people likedizzie rascaldimplesdevlinwretch 32bashygoodzghettoscorcherblack the ripperimpulsetinchyetc etc are talentlesssum bullshitIf you think you have more important things to say whats stopping you from doing it otherwise you might aswell just jam and stop hating..

maybe not talentless but they chat crap tho

[Guest PennyTraitor]

Music nowadays is NEVER a reflection of society. Its just talentless idiot running about telling other idiot whatever will make them look less like an idiot. Music nowadays represents and reflects nothing but the extreme minority of idiots in this country who feel they are superior enough to speak for the rest of us.Part of the problem really, people see Wiley as a reflection of society. IMAGINE THAT

You sound like apart of the problem...Of course music reflects society, it always has and it always will...How can you say people likedizzie rascaldimplesdevlinwretch 32bashygoodzghettoscorcherblack the ripperimpulsetinchyetc etc are talentlesssum bullshitIf you think you have more important things to say whats stopping you from doing it otherwise you might aswell just jam and stop hating..

maybe not talentless but they chat crap tho

specify what crap they chat.

[Guest RBG]

Music nowadays is NEVER a reflection of society. Its just talentless idiot running about telling other idiot whatever will make them look less like an idiot. Music nowadays represents and reflects nothing but the extreme minority of idiots in this country who feel they are superior enough to speak for the rest of us.Part of the problem really, people see Wiley as a reflection of society. IMAGINE THAT

You sound like apart of the problem...Of course music reflects society, it always has and it always will...How can you say people likedizzie rascaldimplesdevlinwretch 32bashygoodzghettoscorcherblack the ripperimpulsetinchyetc etc are talentlesssum bullshitIf you think you have more important things to say whats stopping you from doing it otherwise you might aswell just jam and stop hating..

maybe not talentless but they chat crap tho

specify what crap they chat.

feel free to quote lyrics....Go listen to...Dimples - The TruthBlack The Ripper - My Minds BattleScorcher - Thinking Out LoudWretch 32 - My LifeGoodz - The YoungersDevlin - Community OutcastFor example then come back and say they chat crap and that they are the reason that crime is so high...

[Totty]

Grime is only part of the problem, the main problem is the family home imo, there are too many 1 parent households, usually with only the mum around. what kids are lacking nowadays are good strong male role models to look upto. fathers imo are an intergral part of the family household.

[Trane]

Music nowadays is NEVER a reflection of society. Its just talentless idiot running about telling other idiot whatever will make them look less like an idiot. Music nowadays represents and reflects nothing but the extreme minority of idiots in this country who feel they are superior enough to speak for the rest of us.Part of the problem really, people see Wiley as a reflection of society. IMAGINE THAT

You sound like apart of the problem...Of course music reflects society, it always has and it always will...How can you say people likedizzie rascaldimplesdevlinwretch 32bashygoodzghettoscorcherblack the ripperimpulsetinchyetc etc are talentlesssum bullshitIf you think you have more important things to say whats stopping you from doing it otherwise you might aswell just jam and stop hating..

Hating you know. Yea still, ive always aspired to be a grime mc but im sh*t at it so I cuss those good at it instead still. To say it reflects SOCIETY, is giving it FAR TOO MUCH CREDIT. It reflects a minority of the marginalised peoples opinions in London. Grime music represents so little of the society, its silly. Also, who said they were talentless Most of those HAVE SOME talent, but like I said, 5% init.

[40millionBoy]

its frisco from the london ghettowhere shits grimey every day gun shots echo so dont try me so kick back relax and mellowdont be bussin shots cos a next man says so

[Guest RBG]

Grime is only part of the problem

Why?

[Guest The Member]

the same ol crap about how they did this *insert some sort of crime*or they would do suttin to somebodythey may not be THE reason for these teenage killings but for me they are apart of the problem

[Totty]

Grime is only part of the problem

Why?

It has influence over the youth "in my opinion", and most of the material produced by the artist are gun/knife related.even the artists you listed who are immensly talented have knife/gun bars.Face it music influences people to kill, take drugs and all sorts.

[Guest PennyTraitor]

Grime is only part of the problem

Why?

this is what im sayin its all brainwashing, and i dnt mean grime is doing it. this type of person believes its causing the problem without having a proper reason for saying so.if they banned music altogther do u think crime would increase or decrease?

[Guest RBG]

Music nowadays is NEVER a reflection of society. Its just talentless idiot running about telling other idiot whatever will make them look less like an idiot. Music nowadays represents and reflects nothing but the extreme minority of idiots in this country who feel they are superior enough to speak for the rest of us.Part of the problem really, people see Wiley as a reflection of society. IMAGINE THAT

You sound like apart of the problem...Of course music reflects society, it always has and it always will...How can you say people likedizzie rascaldimplesdevlinwretch 32bashygoodzghettoscorcherblack the ripperimpulsetinchyetc etc are talentlesssum bullshitIf you think you have more important things to say whats stopping you from doing it otherwise you might aswell just jam and stop hating..

Hating you know. Yea still, ive always aspired to be a grime mc but im sh*t at it so I cuss those good at it instead still. To say it reflects SOCIETY, is giving it FAR TOO MUCH CREDIT. It reflects a minority of the marginalised peoples opinions in London. Grime music represents so little of the society, its silly. Also, who said they were talentless Most of those HAVE SOME talent, but like I said, 5% init.

Whats wrong with being a grime mc?So you wanna white guys in suits spitting about the stock market and how hard it was growing up in a private school and having everyfing they wanted in life...So it doesnt reflect the life of young males and how they grew up, what they had to do to survive and whats happening on the streets etc?Skeenlol @ saying only 5% of grime artists have talent...You could say the same for every music genre that ever existed of exists or ever will exist...