Charles de Menezes

[Fresh]

.But you can't really blame the guy who shot him, he was told the guy was a suicide bomber and then probably got told to tuck him in when he got to the station. Truesay 7 headshots is COLD though. Bullick bullick.

AgreedThe sniper is merely the messenger.

Kind of like the gurads at the Nazi death camps got told to exterminate the Jews. f*ck that. Every man should be held accountable for there actions whether they are orders or not.

but what about soldiers at war?their job is too follow orders, and essentially to kill

Soldiers are just as bad, but you dont expect it from an organisation set up to protect the public.

[kurious]

lefte I - 'And this stress on my back,With them caps they be blastin' In2 my knapsack Aint no accidental deathtraps'

[Numero001]

.But you can't really blame the guy who shot him, he was told the guy was a suicide bomber and then probably got told to tuck him in when he got to the station. Truesay 7 headshots is COLD though. Bullick bullick.

AgreedThe sniper is merely the messenger.

But if a man gets murdered in a botch robbery by a gang they will all get done as an accessory. You trade the place of gang to police then it should be the same scenario, uhlie?

[Thun]

David Kelly anyone.

[Guest Flat Eric]

Someone who knows. Whats that film called when this man knows everything thats gonna happen before the government.He was like 'in 10 minutes your gonna get a phone call and your told your gonna have to let me go and you will'.

the matrix

[King Poetic]

The funny thing is though, they were monitoring him before he exited his flat. He waits for a bus, gets on the bus, gets off the bus walks to the tube station, yet they only chase after him once he is on the escalators.What part of the game is that? Why not approach him as he just walks out of his flat?

[Shawn_Carter]

Someone that knows about the kinda gun they would've used to kill this brerwould they have had to squeeze the trigger SEVEN times to fire the seven shots to the head?if soREH

Wasnt it a Glock?Yh if it was a semi automatic he'd of had to squeeze off every shot.But he probably sent all 7 shots into his dome in about a second, plus he was told to KILL him, hes not gonna mess about with 1 shot, he is gonna make sure that the guy is dead.

[Numero001]

I never forget when I heard this on the radiosomething like suspected (muslim) terrorist ran away from police and had a big bumber jacket on and was tracked down and shotthe police f*ckled up big timewhat pisses me off is how they try cover it up so blatently and they even refused an independant report into itf*ck*ng libertiesman was 100% innocentthe police are murdererspoor guy R.I.P

And do you remember the initial reports of him definitely being one of the people they wanted to bag for the 21st fake bombs? The whole thing was a sham and showed us police can lie

[Shawn_Carter]

The funny thing is though, they were monitoring him before he exited his flat. He waits for a bus, gets on the bus, gets off the bus walks to the tube station, yet they only chase after him once he is on the escalators.What part of the game is that? Why not approach him as he just walks out of his flat?

I think it was routine surveilance and then suddenly the guy "ran" into a tube station with a "rucksack" and they panicked.Whole thing is overly suspect though.Maybe he was somebdoy who worked for MI5 and pissed them off, or a found out suttin he shouldnt and the whole terrorist thing is a cover up. Who knows?

[Grafter]

.But you can't really blame the guy who shot him, he was told the guy was a suicide bomber and then probably got told to tuck him in when he got to the station. Truesay 7 headshots is COLD though. Bullick bullick.

AgreedThe sniper is merely the messenger.

Kind of like the gurads at the Nazi death camps got told to exterminate the Jews. f*ck that. Every man should be held accountable for there actions whether they are orders or not.

but what about soldiers at war?their job is too follow orders, and essentially to kill

They was at war with allied forces not against the Jews.That was the final solution.

i was talkin about soldiers at war...in combat...i wasnt justifying what appened to the jews

[Natalie]

.But you can't really blame the guy who shot him, he was told the guy was a suicide bomber and then probably got told to tuck him in when he got to the station. Truesay 7 headshots is COLD though. Bullick bullick.

AgreedThe sniper is merely the messenger.

But if a man gets murdered in a botch robbery by a gang they will all get done as an accessory. You trade the place of gang to police then it should be the same scenario, uhlie?

From when Ian Blair is still their all hope is lost.

[Thun]

.But you can't really blame the guy who shot him, he was told the guy was a suicide bomber and then probably got told to tuck him in when he got to the station. Truesay 7 headshots is COLD though. Bullick bullick.

AgreedThe sniper is merely the messenger.

Kind of like the gurads at the Nazi death camps got told to exterminate the Jews. f*ck that. Every man should be held accountable for there actions whether they are orders or not.

but what about soldiers at war?their job is too follow orders, and essentially to kill

They was at war with allied forces not against the Jews.That was the final solution.

i was talkin about soldiers at war...in combat...i wasnt justifying what appened to the jews

I was talking about them killing the Jews.I was not talking about combat against allied forces.

[Thun]

The funny thing is though, they were monitoring him before he exited his flat. He waits for a bus, gets on the bus, gets off the bus walks to the tube station, yet they only chase after him once he is on the escalators.What part of the game is that? Why not approach him as he just walks out of his flat?

I think it was routine surveilance and then suddenly the guy "ran" into a tube station with a "rucksack" and they panicked.Whole thing is overly suspect though.Maybe he was somebdoy who worked for MI5 and pissed them off, or a found out suttin he shouldnt and the whole terrorist thing is a cover up. Who knows?

Read what happend on the 1st page.

[Numero001]

.But you can't really blame the guy who shot him, he was told the guy was a suicide bomber and then probably got told to tuck him in when he got to the station. Truesay 7 headshots is COLD though. Bullick bullick.

AgreedThe sniper is merely the messenger.

But if a man gets murdered in a botch robbery by a gang they will all get done as an accessory. You trade the place of gang to police then it should be the same scenario, uhlie?

From when Ian Blair is still their all hope is lost.

Thats a next joke. If he was the head of a major corporate company, even the manager of a football team, his head would have been on the platter

[mR ReZiW]

Frezzy (or Rezzy even), where did you get all them posts from? I aint never seen you about

lol @ not clocking the sig n avi tbh.

I cant risk that sh*t at work. Not in 08 with them porno avi's

tru stories. im dat nigg nino brown. jeeeeeeeez

[VonBoyage]

allow all the hypebait coverup.no investigations? shutupno follow up enquiries? shutuplol @ some forum mandem gettin heated.

[Natalie]

.But you can't really blame the guy who shot him, he was told the guy was a suicide bomber and then probably got told to tuck him in when he got to the station. Truesay 7 headshots is COLD though. Bullick bullick.

AgreedThe sniper is merely the messenger.

But if a man gets murdered in a botch robbery by a gang they will all get done as an accessory. You trade the place of gang to police then it should be the same scenario, uhlie?

From when Ian Blair is still their all hope is lost.

Thats a next joke. If he was the head of a major corporate company, even the manager of a football team, his head would have been on the platter

My sentiments exactly HE should be the one in trouble. The shooter. was told to do so by Blair and obv Blair made it out to be major so obv whats teh shooter supposed to do. Sit there and jam I do not think so.

[Thun]

Ian Blair done well.Why should he be sacked if he did not waver into the feeble public.Government love scum like this.

[King Poetic]

The funny thing is though, they were monitoring him before he exited his flat. He waits for a bus, gets on the bus, gets off the bus walks to the tube station, yet they only chase after him once he is on the escalators.What part of the game is that? Why not approach him as he just walks out of his flat?

I think it was routine surveilance and then suddenly the guy "ran" into a tube station with a "rucksack" and they panicked.Whole thing is overly suspect though.Maybe he was somebdoy who worked for MI5 and pissed them off, or a found out suttin he shouldnt and the whole terrorist thing is a cover up. Who knows?

That would be a deep plot if the whole thing was a cover up. But seriously, even if they have the slightest suspicion that he might be a terrorist, it defies logic that they did not dead the situation earlier considering that they had been monitoring him for so long. All for his and the public's safety.Any who...

[Grafter]

.But you can't really blame the guy who shot him, he was told the guy was a suicide bomber and then probably got told to tuck him in when he got to the station. Truesay 7 headshots is COLD though. Bullick bullick.

AgreedThe sniper is merely the messenger.

Kind of like the gurads at the Nazi death camps got told to exterminate the Jews. f*ck that. Every man should be held accountable for there actions whether they are orders or not.

but what about soldiers at war?their job is too follow orders, and essentially to kill

They was at war with allied forces not against the Jews.That was the final solution.

i was talkin about soldiers at war...in combat...i wasnt justifying what appened to the jews

I was talking about them killing the Jews.I was not talking about combat against allied forces.

i was referin to the highlighted statement

[Thun]

.But you can't really blame the guy who shot him, he was told the guy was a suicide bomber and then probably got told to tuck him in when he got to the station. Truesay 7 headshots is COLD though. Bullick bullick.

AgreedThe sniper is merely the messenger.

Kind of like the gurads at the Nazi death camps got told to exterminate the Jews. f*ck that. Every man should be held accountable for there actions whether they are orders or not.

but what about soldiers at war?their job is too follow orders, and essentially to kill

They was at war with allied forces not against the Jews.That was the final solution.

i was talkin about soldiers at war...in combat...i wasnt justifying what appened to the jews

I was talking about them killing the Jews.I was not talking about combat against allied forces.

i was referin to the highlighted statement

I was refering to orders to exterminate the jews not in combat with allied forces.

[Grafter]

well not to be a pendantbut the full stops and gaps between ur statments indicated otherwisewhich is why i asked u the questionthanks for clearin that up star

[Ankle Murda]

Oh yeah that guy they murdered for know apparent reason.

That story's too suspicious.Apparently they followed him from his yard as well

[The King]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/oct/09/menezes

Police surveillance officers tracking Jean Charles de Menezes before he was shot dead on a tube train had no idea that elite firearms officers were also present, the Old Bailey heard today.One officer, identified only as Ivor, also told the jury he believed Mr Menezes posed no threat, otherwise Scotland Yard commanders would have ordered him to be stopped before entering the station.After Mr Menezes had been shot by SO19 firearms officers in the head at point-blank range, Ivor, who was dressed similarly, was dragged out of the train by a marksman who was apparently unaware he was a police officer.

[Thun]

Honour for de Menezes police chiefThe police officer who led the botched operation that ended with the fatal shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes has been honoured.Scotland Yard Assistant Commissioner Cressida d*ck was awarded a Queen's Police Medal for distinguished service in the New Year Honours.Ms d*ck heads the London force's specialist crime wing, which is responsible for tackling some of the most high-profile and serious criminal cases.She has had a notable career at Thames Valley Police and the Metropolitan Police and is now arguably Britain's most senior woman officer.But Miss d*ck is also known for her part in the death of Mr Menezes at Stockwell Tube station on July 22, 2005.She oversaw the fast-moving operation that unfolded as police officers tried to establish whether Mr Menezes was an on-the-run suicide bomber.Her actions were scrutinised in great detail during an Old Bailey health and safety prosecution and a public inquest.In a rare move, the Old Bailey jury ruled against the force but said Ms d*ck should be absolved of any personal culpability.Campaigners for the Menezes family, who recently agreed a secret compensation deal with police, said they were disappointed the award has been made.A spokesman said: "Rewarding Ms d*ck after her role in the biggest policing scandal of the decade displays woeful disregard for both the Menezes family and broader public opinion."http://www.metro.co.uk/news/807583-honour-for-de-menezes-police-chief

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