Numero001 Posted October 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 nah there was dark beats b4 so solid from guys like masterstepz (lol but true), el b, groove chronicals, zed bias, wookie, sticky, jameson and more names i dont remember and them 1 hit white label wondersI would say they are one of the people who set a way for grime sound but the grime sound for me was invented by guys like, wiley/dizzee/slimzee/geenus/target/danny weed/maxwell d/ gods giftthey came up with a whole new distinctive sound to the way they spat on the beat to the sounds they used u would never get so solid using the sounds like what dizzee was using in hoI meant on the spitting side of things. If So Solid were still about when the name Grime was popping off, them man would be classed as Grime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Somalian Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 yeah i here u most def coz b4 that we only had creed/psg/charlie brown/dt/unknown/rb etcwith the nursury rhymes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streets. Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 There would be no POW without 21 Seconds. it's an easy win for So Solid on this poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 nah there was dark beats b4 so solid from guys like masterstepz (lol but true), el b, groove chronicals, zed bias, wookie, sticky, jameson and more names i dont remember and them 1 hit white label wondersI would say they are one of the people who set a way for grime sound but the grime sound for me was invented by guys like, wiley/dizzee/slimzee/geenus/target/danny weed/maxwell d/ gods giftthey came up with a whole new distinctive sound to the way they spat on the beat to the sounds they used u would never get so solid using the sounds like what dizzee was using in hohistory lesson done I'll sign you upinnit. u were asked a question...which u didnt answer. fall back*falls back into the shadows* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero001 Posted October 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 nah there was dark beats b4 so solid from guys like masterstepz (lol but true), el b, groove chronicals, zed bias, wookie, sticky, jameson and more names i dont remember and them 1 hit white label wondersI would say they are one of the people who set a way for grime sound but the grime sound for me was invented by guys like, wiley/dizzee/slimzee/geenus/target/danny weed/maxwell d/ gods giftthey came up with a whole new distinctive sound to the way they spat on the beat to the sounds they used u would never get so solid using the sounds like what dizzee was using in hohistory lesson done I'll sign you upinnit. u were asked a question...which u didnt answer. fall back*falls back into the shadows*No one else in Grime was doing anything like Dizzee hence him becoming a big success so thats invalid. To me it was progression, those who came after followed their predeccessors. Granted them man came with something different to the table but man werent spitting like So Solid before So Solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Batty Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Armand Van Helden was making 8 bar riddims at 140bpm when RIP Groove came out. Track entitled "C.U.M" on the b side of some sh*t disco tune called Boogie Monster was straight up 8 bar grime. Stop reaching for straws just because people were making dark garage, doesn't mean they were the pioneers of Grime music.So Solid are the pioneers of : DIY beats, pushing the BPM up past 130 (along with EZ as a DJ), spitting bars which reflected UK culture at the time. That is what Grime is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Somalian Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 http://www.htfr.com/playlist/MR31755.m3u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Batty Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 That's the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavant Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 21 seconds.forward riddim was a collection of mc's not a crew who work together outside of that tune. 21 seconds OBVIOUSLY.chart position slash brit awards slash everything else.bridged the gap between underground and commerical music PERFECTLY.two tracks arent even on levels imo.lol at anyone who says pow over 21 secs*****does anyone have keisha white's number or addressLOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent31 Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 21 seconds surely because of Lisa Mafia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbmc Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 21 seconds, there weren't really much representation for this type of music when the vid dropped so the hype around it was massive, when i first saw 4ward i weren't that bothered for some reason. i think coz every man and his dog was putting up sh*t vids on channel u. plus when i saw it on the telly the massive kick drum used to distort on my telly, and sounded like the pulse x sound, so when i bought it on vinyl i was dissapointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Luv Doc Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 So Solid>>>>>>>More fire/fire camp.Lethal B got bare corny choruses and sound stupid compared to so solids tunes.Rap Dis/Oh No/In My Life/Woah (More less more soul)>>>>>>>>>>>Pow/oi/back then/No etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic Man Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Pulse X was the first ever Grime track then came Eskimo.WRONGEskimo came 1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero001 Posted October 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Sorry to bump but I really thought Pow! was gonna win this judging the age of most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gayle Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Pulse X was the first ever Grime track then came Eskimo.WRONGEskimo came 1stThought So Solid had the 1st grime track TBH, well you could kinda tell their beats were a bit more "darker" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Somalian Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 yeah i remember pulse x vinyl being on dub being rinsed by fonti from summer of 2001 the vinyl came out april 2002 time and a remix with a extra bong soon followedeskimo I remember buying this in may 2002so pulse x came out first but only by few weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Martinez Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Pow = some of the best times in my life.If you were @ EQ that day you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kane Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 TBH, Pow meant more to me sentimentally then 21 Seconds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kane Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 TBH, Pow meant more to me sentimentally then 21 Seconds...thts how i know ur not from ends slash jus werent out and about them times. Not even denying that sh*t...Man was on nothing but football, school & video games them times...Llow that 'ends' talk though, that's just ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 21 SecondsAnd POW wasn't done by a crew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kane Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 TBH, Pow meant more to me sentimentally then 21 Seconds...thts how i know ur not from ends slash jus werent out and about them times. Not even denying that sh*t...Man was on nothing but football, school & video games them times...Llow that 'ends' talk though, that's just ignorant.i said slash i.e one or the other. u could have been in france for all i know.True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero001 Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 21 SecondsAnd POW wasn't done by a crewWell I didnt want to write "Posse Cut" because thats known as Yank slang, even though Posse is actually a Jamaican word. You know what I meanCrew in this instance = more than 3 man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Batty Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 As I said before, if you rate 21 Seconds higher than Pow, you were probably 12 years old when 21 Seconds came out and the first time you heard it was the video on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero001 Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 21 Secs was cheesy but had the hood feel for what the mandem where spitting on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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