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[Lieutenant]

KDB looks like he should be named Barry ad playing for Aberdeen

[Benicio del Toney]

Probably coz his mum was born in Ealing lol.

 

Nigga pasty doe.

[Mame Biram Diouf]

KDB is to white what Sanga is to black

[kerser]

Dem childhood sweethearts deh

[The Infamous]

Couts>>>>

 

http://youtu.be/_f6iUfk8T48

 

4:00 MOVIN ICEY

 

Couldnt believe what I was seeing. Ghosted arteta and wilshire a few times . Plus his blocking and tackling today>>>

 

 

 

 

 

[The Infamous]

Raheem Sterling says exile from Liverpool first-team made him a better player

“The best way of proving yourself is on the pitch. I had to be more confident. I wasn’t confident enough to have a shot myself and instead I’d pass it to someone like [Luis] Suarez. I just said to myself that I had to step up and start running at defenders again; taking responsibility. I’ve also had the chance to do that week in, week out. I can feel a bit of momentum now.

“My agent knows me as well as anyone else; he knows my game, and he asked the club for a couple of DVDs from last season when I’d played well. He wanted to show me the difference. Last season, I’d have beaten a man in two touches and raced away.
“Suddenly, I was going safe; passing to someone else. I didn’t realise I was doing it. I needed to be more confident. You have to respect the senior players around you but you have to stamp your own mark on the game.”

 

http://youtu.be/bw7OHQd7hXs

[The Infamous]

>>>>>>>

 

Best prem player of all time 

[Thizz]

[The Infamous]

ur sig bruh

 

man made a tackle loool woow 

[Thizz]

LOL best ever Prem player but he won't ever win it.

[The Infamous]

He will 

 

http://youtu.be/HZrrwsBJMEk

[Thizz]

[The Infamous]

LOOOOL

[Flojo]

LOL best ever Prem player but he won't ever win it.

 

What about Dan, he's already won it so is he eligible? I asked you to do me one of those funny pictures of his scoring rate against the big teams earlier, how's it coming along?

 

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This article seems like it was written with you in mind.

 

 

Author’s Note: This was written mid-week for The Mirror, but something happened in transit and it didn’t get used. Thus I am publishing it here even though the stats for this season are a game out of date.

 

“I rate them as Bale, then Sturridge, then Hazard, but it’s close. They are all outstanding players.”

“What is this, a wind up?”

“Hey Davey, this guy thinks Sturridge is better than Hazard. I kid you not!”

“F***ing stats!”

*cracks knuckles*

 

Alright, let’s do this.

 

Some people – like the ones paraphrased above – are wrong about Daniel Sturridge. They see the arrogance, the silly dance, and they write him off as a lot of flash and not much else.They are unbelievably, almost inconceivably, wrong.

Despite the fact that Premier League fans have known about him since he was a teenager, Sturridge is still only 24, making him the same age as Gareth Bale and one year older than Hazard. No longer a young player, Sturridge is just entering his prime.

The thing is, he didn’t suddenly get good. He’s actually been really good for the better part of four years now, but somehow a lot of fans still haven’t caught on to this fact. Don’t believe me? Let’s look at the production.

 

2010-11 – Bolton

Owned by Chelsea, but shipped off to Bolton to get actual playing time, Sturridge scored 8 goals in 10.8 90’s, for a spectacular .74 goals per 90. (His rate for the entire season, including sub appearances at Chelsea was .64.)

 

A fairly simple guideline for non-penalty scoring rates as a Forward is as follows:

.4 to .49 non-penalty goals per 90: Good.

.5 to .59 non-penalty goals per 90: Very good.

.6 to .79 non-penalty goals per 90: Probable Top 20 in Europe

.8 or above non-penalty goals per 90: Probable Top 5 in Europe

 

Lionel Messi has the best rate on record at 1.44 per 90, set last season.

So at age 21, Sturridge posted a rate that would rank him in the top 20 in Europe while on loan at that hotbed of goal production, Bolton.

 

2011-12 – Chelsea

In just over 25 90’s at Chelsea, playing almost exclusively on the right wing (where it is considerably harder to score than being up front), Sturridge slotted home 11 goals for a .44 goal scoring rate. He also had 3 assists that season, solid passing accuracy (81.6%), good key passes, etc. This is an excellent season for a 22-year old, especially when playing out wide.

 

2012-13 – Mostly Liverpool

Between the Olympics and a hamstring injury, the first half of this season was almost a complete washout for Sturridge. Despite the fact that Fernando Torres was no longer El Nino, those at Chelsea decided Sturridge wouldn’t make the final cut of their team, and they sold him to Liverpool with six months left on his contract for a rumoured £12M.

His 12-13 season saw this production.

 

 

BAM! Right back to what he produced when playing at Bolton, except a touch more efficiently. 2 Dribbles a game is good. 2.3 key passes a game is very good. As mentioned before, .72 non-penalty goals a game will probably make you one of the top 10 goalscorers in Europe in a season. Add a solid assist tally for a forward, and Sturridge’s scoring contribution (goals + assists) was nearly 1 a game. That’s fantastic.

Needless to say, Chelsea’s other forwards that they chose to keep around have performed nowhere near that well.

But yeah, okay, it was only a few months, and anyone can have a hot streak over a few months. Having some doubt is perfectly fine.

How did Sturridge fare the next season?

 

2013-14 – Are You Kidding Me?

 

 

Conversion rate is up, shots per 90 is down. Key passes are down quite a bit, but he’s still churning out an excellent number of assists for a center forward. But that goal rate… WOW. [Note: It's up a notch further, as Sturridge scored Saturday and didn't play the full 90.]

Pub quiz!

 

According to data gurus Opta, in the history of the Premier League, how many players averaged one goal or more per 90 when playing at least half a season?

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The answer: One.

Ronaldo in 2007-08.

Here’s the thing though… Ronaldo had 31 goals in 30.5 90’s that year, but 4 of those were penalties. His adjusted rate without the penalties is .89.

Sturridge’s rate this year is 1.

According to Duncan Alexander at Opta, prior to this season, there were three other players who played less than half the minutes in the season who eclipsed this mark: Ole Gunnar Solskaer  and Kevin Campbell in 98-99, and Papiss Cisse when he first arrived at Newcastle in 11-12.

That’s it.

 

Sturridge only has 14 90’s played so far, and it’s an open question of whether he can keep up this scoring pace, but right now he is scoring goals at a rate that has never been done before in the Premier League.

 

People should be amazed! Instead, they sit back complaining about his dance. [For the record, I love a goal celebration, regardless of how silly, contrived, choreographed or ridiculous.]

 

Add in the assist rate, and Sturridge is accounting for more than 1.2 goals per game in scoring. That’s a crazy number, and it’s better than anything Wayne Rooney or Robin van Persie have ever produced in their illustrious careers. The rate is so good that it approaches Thierry Henry’s incredible 24G/23A season for Arsenal in 2002-03 or Didier Drogba’s 29G/10A season for Chelsea in 2009-10, which might just be the two best scoring seasons in all of Premier League history.

 

Is Sturridge as good as Henry?

In a word: no.

Henry in his prime was an absolutely unstoppable combination of pace, goal scoring, and brilliant passes to set up his teammates. But at the same age as Sturridge, on what was probably a better team, Henry scored 24G/5A in 33 matches, a rate Sturridge is on pace to match if he can stay healthy the rest of the year.

The thing we need to realize is that Sturridge has been good for quite a while, and this season at Liverpool he is actually doing something unprecedented in Premier League history.

Daniel Sturridge is now the best English centre forward. With maybe two exceptions (Aguero and Suarez), he is practically the best producing centre forward in England.

Maybe, instead of being shocked that someone would think Daniel Sturridge is a match for Eden Hazard, or would dare to mention him in the same breath as Thierry Henry, we can look at his production and think, “Wow, this 24-year old guy who is just now entering the prime of his career, is actually amazing.”

Think of it another way.

 

Maybe the answer to “Is Daniel Sturridge as good as Thierry Henry?” isn’t “Of course not!”

Maybe, just maybe…

It’s “Not yet.”

 

http://www.statsbomb.com/2014/02/we-need-to-talk-about-daniel-sturridge/

[Thizz]

Flono mate you really think I made that picture???

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I've never said I don't rate him. Please bare that in mind.

I just don't think he's that good.

I'll happily be proved wrong when he does it on the big stage.

[Davicious X]

ur sig bruh

 

man made a tackle loool woow 

 

Man dispossessed Yaya.

 

Why are we not impressed by defensive accomplishments?

[The Infamous]

seen Yaya get clamped numerous times its not even gif worthy let alone sig worthy 

[The Infamous]

@SamuelLJackson: Turn on the TV LFC Scores! You'll Never Walk Alone, Baby! Liverpoooooool!

@SamuelLJackson: 4 nil at halftime!! Go LFC!!!

[Yeshua]

How good can Coutinho be?

 

Never thought i would see him excel in a CM role, reminded me a lot of Iniesta the other day. 

 

Him Teixeira and Suso could be a promising triad in a few years.

[kerser]

Couple weeks ago people were saying coutinho is useless

Now all of a sudden he is hot shit

Football fans <<<<<<

Same thing will happen again with hazard soon

[The Infamous]

How good can Coutinho be?

Never thought i would see him excel in a CM role, reminded me a lot of Iniesta the other day.

Him Teixeira and Suso could be a promising triad in a few years.

coutinho has to play in the center. said it in the summer. he isnt effective out wide because he needs space to play that 30 yard through ball. thats why people thought he had sexond season syndrome plus he had a shoulder injury. this iniesta role is custom made for him.

Lool i stopped watching youth football. Is Jao Tex good? What type of player is he another attacking mid? suso im hearing clubs want to buy him. Would be pissed. Really want wisdom,sterling and suso out in the first team from the borrell and seguera academy era. Rafa really revamped the whole set up.

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Would keep flanagan in the first XI even when johnsons back he reminds me of arbeloa solid fullback. Have to put my hands up i never rated him that high more of a mclaughlin fan

[Yeshua]

 

How good can Coutinho be?

Never thought i would see him excel in a CM role, reminded me a lot of Iniesta the other day.

Him Teixeira and Suso could be a promising triad in a few years.

coutinho has to play in the center. said it in the summer. he isnt effective out wide because he needs space to play that 30 yard through ball. thats why people thought he had sexond season syndrome plus he had a shoulder injury. this iniesta role is custom made for him.

Lool i stopped watching youth football. Is Jao Tex good? What type of player is he another attacking mid? suso im hearing clubs want to buy him. Would be pissed. Really want wisdom,sterling and suso out in the first team from the borrell and seguera academy era. Rafa really revamped the whole set up.

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Would keep flanagan in the first XI even when johnsons back he reminds me of arbeloa solid fullback. Have to put my hands up i never rated him that high more of a mclaughlin fan

 

 

 

 

Teixeira is another one of those technically gifted continental players. Very much in the mould of Coutinho actually, been playing on the left of a forward three for the reserves lately, but he played for Lisbon and when he first came to the club as a CM predominately. Feel thats where he will end up, rate him highly, takes the piss at reserve level even outshone Chamberlain last week, thing is at the age of 21 he needs to be given the chance now.

 

Mclauglin is quality as well, i think right now we should be very excited as Liverpool fans, honestly think apart from Chelsea we have the best crop of young players from the ages of 16-21 around, good thing is unlike Chelsea we actually give our young players a chance.

[The Infamous]

Hmm is it but reserve level football is piss poor, he is training with the first team at melwoo. Seen him,sama and brad smith in photos. I dont think he will make it if he is a attacking midfielder we spent 7million on luis alberto and suso also possibly coming back.

There is some under 18's we got on our books who are some of the most rated in their age group. Hope Mcalves makes it same with jack robinson. This is so much better than bosman trash

[Yeshua]

Hmm is it but reserve level football is piss poor, he is training with the first team at melwoo. Seen him,sama and brad smith in photos. I dont think he will make it if he is a attacking midfielder we spent 7million on luis alberto and suso also possibly coming back.

There is some under 18's we got on our books who are some of the most rated in their age group. Hope Mcalves makes it same with jack robinson. This is so much better than bosman trash

 

You see i used to subscribe to that argument. but it seems that for the most part players who have excelled at reserve football have took to competitive football like a duck in water. Wisdom is doing well at Derby, Robinson is doing well at Blackpool, even Flannagan who was on his way out is performing well for the first team. Generally i feel that the cream rises to the top, sometimes all these young players need is a chance, i don't doubt if you put Teixeira in our current team he wouldn't excel.

 

As for Luis Alberto and Suso, i generally rate him higher than Alberto has crazy as it seems given the formers experience, he doesn't have problems with his mobility and technically he is just as gifted, maybe even more. Don't see why he can't at least be a squad player, thing with Coutinho Suso and Tex is that all three can play either as a forward or as a CM.

 

The u18s are incredibly talented, Ryan Kent, Harry Wilson, Jordan Rossiter are all three of the best talents in this country, also got Ibe and the two lads stolen from Barca as well, not all will make it, but a lot of them will, Wilson is already the youngest player to play for Wales and Rossiter has made it onto our bench, Liverpool haven't had this many prodigies since the Owen Gerrard generation.

[Agony]

Lol @ Courtois telling man to stay humble

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Been impressed with Flannagan everytime I've watched him this season. Quality player.