TF S4DK Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Walcott's miss was far worse than Bendtner's..Trust, not to mention AA's 1 on 1.To be fair It's expected of Walcott. He got lost on his way to the track and found himself on a football pitch by accident.Just. No./You're right, he did score a similar goal TF, almost carbon copy type of chance, but again, it was a VERY good finish. It wasn't an easy one. No-one's saying he couldn't have done better, but the scapegoating is a bit too far.I aint moaning about Bendtner for that chance, I'm taking the whole 90 minutes into account, and his performances of recent stay in the mind. You lot are trying to stick up for him cos he played RW, but lets not f*ck*ng forget he played central this season and did f*ck ALL.Like I said I expect GCP to be firming for him, not some of you man, I just dont get it.I'd rather man just said Bendtner shouldnt get minutes until he performs better than van Persie and Chamakh, and if he dont like that well, when we sell him I wont complain cos he wasnt good enough to get minutes in his postion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Awesome Kong Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 TBH, When I see Bendtner in a wide position I become baft. Having him & Chamakh as two cf would have made more sense.I wont blame this on Bendtner tbh. Arshavin was really sh*t tbh. That 1 on 1 was pathetic, when he got a through pass from Bendtner and he just didn't go for it, his passing.... etc etc.Denilson was playing good but f*cked up with that penalty then he started to play crap instead of thinking I need to make up for this sh*t. f*ck knows why Song didn't shoot when he made that good run, instead he f*ck*ng passed smh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kane Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 What are you talking about Kane, we played Leeds FFS.Your acting like the players that started there haven't all played 20+ league games in those positions.Stop the arrogance, about we're playing 'Leeds'. They knocked United out at Old Trafford last season & this is the FA Cup, not a pre-season friendly. You take every tie seriously.B52 hasn't performed at a level to justify playing him there so I don't understand the constant decision to play him there. It doesn't suit his strengths or anything.And Arshavin. SMMMMHHHH, I'm seeing B52 this & B52 that, but that Arshavin today? Lol @ no-one talking about the 1 on 1 he missed in the 1st half. THAT's a sitter.Shut up. Wenger put out a stronger than expected team. Our serious team has played too many games. There is not one player that started that earns the same or less than any of them Leeds players.He needs minutes, he played there against Wigan and scored... If you dont understand it in the scheme of things them your the one being ignorant. Basically he plays there or not at all.Arshavin was sh*t. Worse than bendtner, but thats no real surprise as he been average for a while now.GTFOH.Even that Wigan game was a let-off, he scored but even still the general team performance was sh*t. Barely any fluidity or tempo.You start 2 targetmen, play them both upfront. It isn't about WHO he played, it's WHERE.Bendtner aint a target man. This has been established. Chamakh's arrival made that clear to every Arsenal fan, that Bendtner wasnt that guy. Swear even Bendtner said himself he aint a target man.He's a targetman in the sense that he's a striker who needs service, whether it be in the air, to feet or balls to run on to. Not a Kevin Davies style targetman.WHY would you play a striker of that style on the flanks? STRICTLY from a tactical sense, go on, explain.Ok I dont disgree it is not ideal for Bendtner to play there, but its simple, Bendtner had to play on the right or NOT AT ALL. Granted, it is not his ideal position, but regardless of that some of the sh*t I see him do and then seem to express a attitude of, well its okay cos this aint my position is DISGRACEFUL.The ironic thing is the man defending Bendtner are the same way that criticised Walcott for "yeah he aint a winger but he still should be able to trap a ball or pass a ball"You man talking about 4-4-2, should then think a 4-42, of ROSICKY DENILSON SONG ARSHAVIN Lol, I aint even gonna say nothing, just think about it. SERIOUSLY.Bruv, that's what I'm saying, my issue isn't even with the players, it's Wenger.It's like, play players in their natural or somewhat natural position. If you can't fit him in, DON'T START HIM. Out of that 18-man squad, there's no reason why he can't go 4-4-2, or at least if you're gonna stick with 4-2-3-1, start Vela out wide, bring Rosicky or AA in the hole & out at RW. Then pick Chamahk or B52 as the lone forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kane Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Walcott's miss was far worse than Bendtner's..Trust, not to mention AA's 1 on 1.To be fair It's expected of Walcott. He got lost on his way to the track and found himself on a football pitch by accident.Just. No./You're right, he did score a similar goal TF, almost carbon copy type of chance, but again, it was a VERY good finish. It wasn't an easy one. No-one's saying he couldn't have done better, but the scapegoating is a bit too far.I aint moaning about Bendtner for that chance, I'm taking the whole 90 minutes into account, and his performances of recent stay in the mind. You lot are trying to stick up for him cos he played RW, but lets not f*ck*ng forget he played central this season and did f*ck ALL.Like I said I expect GCP to be firming for him, not some of you man, I just dont get it.I'd rather man just said Bendtner shouldnt get minutes until he performs better than van Persie and Chamakh, and if he dont like that well, when we sell him I wont complain cos he wasnt good enough to get minutes in his postion.You're getting it twisted with me fam. I can't co-sign overly scapegoating a player when...A. Other players play worse.B. The manager doesn't do that player any service in the way he puts out his team.IMO, he was below-par, BUT I saw attempt more penetrative, direct plays than Chamakh & Arshavin, so allow just ignoring his contribution. I co-sign the idea he just shouldn't play if he's poor, BUT bear this in mind...When B52 has started, upfront, it's usually been with the 2nd string team, in difficult away fixtures i.e. Braga, Donestk, etc.Chamakh usually starts with a full-team behind him.So let's not go on like Chamahk is miles ahead of B52. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Arshavin doesnt like playing on the right as he refuses to use his left foot to shoot. I personally wouldnt put Arshavin in the hole as he is lazy and with Denilson behind him, well... Plus Song look tired to me from the off & shouldnt have started.You blame Wenger, I can agree he does take a portion of the blame, but that said I cant defend players who might try to use Wenger's choice of their playing position as a excuse for doing f*ck all. Plenty of players do jobs, and do that job better than some of these prima donnas that lets not forget Wenger gave life and spoiled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BATTY BOY BUM BANDIT Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Agree with Kane here tbh.I wouldnt say any Arsenal players particularly deserved any credit today but to even try and consider blaming that performance on bendtner is laughable. Arshavin was shambolic. Again.Chamakh is so overrated its a joke.Rosicky wernt great by his standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 You're getting it twisted with me fam. I can't co-sign overly scapegoating a player when...A. Other players play worse.B. The manager doesn't do that player any service in the way he puts out his team.IMO, he was below-par, BUT I saw attempt more penetrative, direct plays than Chamakh & Arshavin, so allow just ignoring his contribution. I co-sign the idea he just shouldn't play if he's poor, BUT bear this in mind...When B52 has started, upfront, it's usually been with the 2nd string team, in difficult away fixtures i.e. Braga, Donestk, etc.Chamakh usually starts with a full-team behind him.So let's not go on like Chamahk is miles ahead of B52.Arshavin played worse than Bendtner, I have never argued that. Chamakh, played bad (again) yes however, there are several factors that you clearly know that stop me from getting at Chmakah at this point, the way I will Bendtner. You think fans would be on say JET if he played like Arshavin did today? No.Wenger asked Bendtner to do a job, in exchange for playing time, so yeah maybe he is doing him a dis-service by playing him, there, but he then moves him to his position and Bendtner's performance didnt improve. Then f*ck*ng what? Cos that excuse disappears. Especially when Fabregas is behind you and your playing against Leeds from the Championship at home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaman Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 lol the chance was'nt easy but look at his body shape guy was all over the place signs of someone who its not really natural toour strikeforce is awful anyway but theres a decent player in b52....somewherelol at that chance where walcott tried to shoot n dragged it miles wide, shocking 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Coquelin Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 beg fabregas takes a look at the spurs game b4 he starts slating team mates about conceding penalties 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Fabregas can say what he wants, cos his perfomrances will then allow him that license. Don't be dumb.When Denilson performs like Cesc Fabregas, Cesc Fabregas will not say a word outside of praise to him.But Denilson is summed up today in two incidents, the penalty - swear he given away THREE pens this season, for a player that doesnt play a lot thats way too many and the corner where Becchio nearly scores (guess who was marking him) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FA23 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 what was walkers goal saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FA23 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgha40_she-ast-0-1-www-rojadirecta-org_sportf*ck off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephisto Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 I have thought it for awhile that Fabregas doesnt like Denilson. Cesc comments just then proved it.what did he say, i'm at workHe said something along the lines of 'a professional footballer shouldn't be making those kinds of tackles in the area' pos'dSMH @ CescNot captain like comments & has he forgotten the Spuds game already. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaman Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 mugged bartley/http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/4350/6/walcott-i-dived-attempt-win-penalty?this must be fake surely? they just got some twat to impersonate his voice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK VICTIM Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 wall-eeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephisto Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 mugged bartley/http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/4350/6/walcott-i-dived-attempt-win-penalty?this must be fake surely? they just got some twat to impersonate his voice?Wtf lolkilled himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF S4DK Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 He talking about the penalty that wasnt given.However that one looked more a penalty then the actual penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsonist Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Kyle Walker>>>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearless-Guy Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 You're getting it twisted with me fam. I can't co-sign overly scapegoating a player when...A. Other players play worse.B. The manager doesn't do that player any service in the way he puts out his team.IMO, he was below-par, BUT I saw attempt more penetrative, direct plays than Chamakh & Arshavin, so allow just ignoring his contribution. I co-sign the idea he just shouldn't play if he's poor, BUT bear this in mind...When B52 has started, upfront, it's usually been with the 2nd string team, in difficult away fixtures i.e. Braga, Donestk, etc.Chamakh usually starts with a full-team behind him.So let's not go on like Chamahk is miles ahead of B52.Arshavin played worse than Bendtner, I have never argued that. Chamakh, played bad (again) yes however, there are several factors that you clearly know that stop me from getting at Chmakah at this point, the way I will Bendtner. You think fans would be on say JET if he played like Arshavin did today? No.Wenger asked Bendtner to do a job, in exchange for playing time, so yeah maybe he is doing him a dis-service by playing him, there, but he then moves him to his position and Bendtner's performance didnt improve. Then f*ck*ng what? Cos that excuse disappears. Especially when Fabregas is behind you and your playing against Leeds from the Championship at home...chatting sh*t how old is chamakh compared to JETcan you honestly say youd prefer to see that greaseball start ahead of b52 in say the replay or against ipswich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Q Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 QPR boss Neil Warnock brands El-Hadji Diouf a "sewer rat" and "lowest of low" for abusing Jamie Mackie as he lay on pitch with a broken leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquaman Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 LOOOLDIOUFY>>>>guy is just different 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n/a Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 smh at denilson why is he still at the clubcant take bedntner serious ever againhe talkss himself up way to much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Planet Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 u still talking about that?roll on league cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Mike Kane chatting sense.Cesc is a prick for the Denilson comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Bendtners chance was not an easy one, it doesn't matter if you play football for a living i wouldn't expect most players to score than on their weaker foot, scoring it on your best foot is hard enough, going on like every player is Van Basten.DpmoHe hit a bouncing ball from about 8 yards out, he's a professional footballer. All he does is play footballer and he's a striker.Look at the outcome of the shot.f*ck offLOL, this guy.You know how I know you're chatting sh*t? Because if he had scored that, people would be HYPING that goal, indicating how f*ck*ng difficult a finish LIKE THE ONE YOU'RE DESCRIBING would be.Like I said, what he could have done is take a touch, then go from there but iBeg a man don't tell me a weaker foot volley from a long-range pass, hit 1st time is easy, ''because he's a footballer & he's a striker...''LOLListen to this f*ck*ng idiotLet's have a look at this video, skip to 1.05 and you will see a striker in a very similar position to Bendtner today, also on his weaker foot. Look what he does. Guides the ball into the far corner instead of trying to leather it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTdYmpd0hrsNoone said it was easy but from when me and guys I play with can execute this skill with some degree of consistency I'm expecting guys at the very top level to perform it consistently, especially when it matters! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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