Apple WWDC

[Guest FA23]

Dont see how they are restricting tbh, maybe iOS, but then you can jailbreak it. Would never go back to windows anyway, not even a fanboy thing, OSX is just generally much butter than windows.

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On the night before the 2011 WWDC Keynote, things have been relatively quiet. Those attending WWDC are naturally excited by the prospect of Apple's announcements and everyone is speculating about what Apple could announce. The first person got in line for the WWDC keynote at 1pm Sunday, while everyone else seems to be debating exactly how early to get in line. At present there seem to be about 30 people in line (photo) as of 11pm Pacific.

The image above is what we believe to simply be a mockup of what iOS 5's notifications may look like. It was posted by TechCrunch who later said that they've heard it's the "right idea".

DaringFireball's John Gruber has posted his thoughts about Monday's event but seems to know very little for certain. The most tantalizing quote he offers, but also one that he describes as fourth hand information is as follows:

Dont think of iCloud as the new MobileMe; think of iCloud as the new iTunes.

Gruber describes the possibility where instead of taking an iOS device and syncing it to your computer, all the data is synced to iCloud. This would finally relinquish the need for a PC/Mac sync for new iOS devices. He goes on with other wishes for iOS but admits its not based on any inside knowledge.

Interestingly, we've heard that a few Apple employees have been genuinely excited about tomorrow's announcements. The keynote kicks off at 10am Pacific / 1pm Eastern on Monday and we'll provide live coverage here.

[Mr. Gayle]

6pm UK time

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/06/wwdc-2011-liveblog-steve-jobs-talks-ios-5-os-x-lion-icloud-an/

[Guest FA23]

WWDC Live Blogs:

Gizmodo Live Blog & Round Ups

Engadget (Live Video Analysis)

Apple Insider

MacRumors

Wired

Maclife

MacWorld

[Faisal]

Any video streams?

[Guest FA23]

bump

[Kurtis]

live stream? I dont wanna read this sh*t

[Guest FA23]

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream4

delay of 45mins so aint missed much.

[Mr. Gayle]

No iPhone 5

[Guest FA23]

iMessage, an iOS BBM for iphone, ipad & ipod.

unlx rim

[Mr. Gayle]

As any BlackBerry user will know, one of the best features about RIM’s device – barring the stellar keyboard – is BlackBerry Messenger, which allows people to communicate with other BlackBerry users for free, anytime, anywhere through the BlackBerry Enterprise Server.

Indeed, many BlackBerry users stick with the device purely because no other phone or OS has offered any kind of viable replacement for BBM, especially while traveling abroad where data charges are expensive, but BBM remains free and utterly usable. Case in point, I spent the last two weeks traveling across Europe and Asia, used BBM every single day and have not a cent extra on my phone bill. Count me a happy customer, RIM.

Which is why I fail to comprehend the sheer exuberance over Apple’s newly announced messaging system iMessage. It is indeed similar to BBM in that it’s proprietary and works only for people using the same OS – one of BBM’s failings, if you ask me – but it doesn’t seem to have the advantage of being globally usable for no extra cost.

Try leaving your Apple iPhone open while 3G roaming in Taiwan for a week and see what kind of bill you get. Just try it. I dare you. And sure, it works on Wi-Fi, but who cares, so does Google chat. The main benefit of BBM is that it uses BES, and as such, does not add dollars on to your data bill. Same with email. BlackBerry users enjoy unlimited free email abroad thanks to BES, while Apple users are constantly on the hunt for a McDonalds with WiFi, like junkies looking for their next hit. It’s actually quite amusing to watch.

Also, touch-screen keyboards have to be one of the most annoying platforms to use when it comes to rapid messaging – I’ll stick to my physical keyboard any day, thanks.

So while the Engadgets and Apple fanboys/girls of the world will try to spin this as being a massive blow to RIM, I’m actually not sure it is at all. Also, RIM now has until October – when iOS5 is officially released – to make its fabulous BBM service cross platform and stop Apple in its tracks.

Will the Canadian company do it? I don’t know, but I have all my fingers crossed.

[Kurtis]

wait wait wait, BBM doesnt use the normal data connection? and is free worldwide? why the f*ck did I not know this? thought it was just a random IM app like the others

if they make it cross platform... erm do the smartphones have a way to connect to the entrerprise server like BB's do~?

[revs]

^^^ reminds me of when i was abroad last month and had my data roaming off on my iphone and 3G disabled. Somehow it received some email so i thought i had hit a wifi spot without double checking before opening the attachments. Next thing i get a text saying i have £20 worth of data used up. Pissed.

[Kurtis]

boy, looks like i need to cop a cheap low spec BB for use abroad

[Flex]

So while the Engadgets and Apple fanboys/girls of the world will try to spin this as being a massive blow to RIM, I’m actually not sure it is at all. Also, RIM now has until October – when iOS5 is officially released – to make its fabulous BBM service cross platform and stop Apple in its tracks.

does this mean the iphone 5 is gonna b released october too?

[Guest FA23]

WWDC Keynote Video : http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/11piubpwiqubf06/event/

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BBM Does use 3G/GSM tho so hes chatting sh*t, how else would incoming messages reach your blackberry?

BES is software that connects you to a server, its not a f*ck*ng network

[Kurtis]

wait lets go back to this for a sec, cos I never get answers, ive never used OSX, is what ways is it better than windows? everytime I ask a mac user they just say its better, better at what?

[Guest FA23]

The UI

Better File System (Doesnt need defragging)

The Ease of Use

No Virus worries

Spotlight

It basically never crashes

i could go on but thats pointless because theres so much....

[Lot To Learn]

Didn't have the time to watch is there going to be a new iPhone?

If so when isit out?

[Guest FA23]

Nah not announced, but iOS5 is dropping this fall so wouldnt be surprised if a iphone4s dropped aswell.

[Mr. Gayle]

WWDC Keynote Video : http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/11piubpwiqubf06/event/

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BBM Does use 3G/GSM tho so hes chatting sh*t, how else would incoming messages reach your blackberry?

BES is software that connects you to a server, its not a f*ck*ng network

You can use bbm without 3G as long as u have a data plan, Thts the Gd thing about how bbs handle data even without 3G it still works

Heavy users of imessage will be stung hard IMO

[Guest FA23]

WWDC Keynote Video : http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/11piubpwiqubf06/event/

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BBM Does use 3G/GSM tho so hes chatting sh*t, how else would incoming messages reach your blackberry?

BES is software that connects you to a server, its not a f*ck*ng network

You can use bbm without 3G as long as u have a data plan, Thts the Gd thing about how bbs handle data even without 3G it still works

Heavy users of imessage will be stung hard IMO

yeah it is still using the data plan tho, just like iMessage will. all you gotta do is turn off 3G on your iphone.

[Lenny]

Blackberry's are still relevant.

For people on a budget and limited data plans they are still a good option.

Also alot of people still love a hardware keyboard

[Kurtis]

hmm google searches seem to say BBM uses data allowance while roaming, so not sure what that guy was talking about, maybe these guys used facebook and all that

[Black.]

Apple gimmi jokes ripping off ber stuff from the jailbreak guys and going on like they came up with the

[Guest Klitschko]

Tbf you could look at it just the same the other way round.