'News of The World' scrapped - News Corp withdraws bid for BSkyB

[Francis Coquelin]

steve coogan's getting emotional on newsnight

[Mr Q]

Paul Mcmullen has been ripped apart so many times this year, wtf is the guy still appearing on my tv screen. Absolute wanker.

And this whole bullshit line that these idiots are pushing that there won't be freedom of press if there is regulation is nonsense.

Tabloids offer little other than sensationalism and the whole country would be better off without them.

[Kurtis]

[TF S4DK]

"it's a nice house"

[Ulysses]

Paul Mcmullen has been ripped apart so many times this year, wtf is the guy still appearing on my tv screen. Absolute wanker.

And this whole bullshit line that these idiots are pushing that there won't be freedom of press if there is regulation is nonsense.

Tabloids offer little other than sensationalism and the whole country would be better off without them.

There doesn't need to be more regulations, there are already laws in place that should be properly enforced if people are found guilty of any wrongdoing.

A bad free press is always better than a good controlled press, as the saying goes. I don't want the UK ending up like France.

If anything the closure of the News of the World makes a case against regulation, its closure wasn't driven by the government, but by the market.

I personally think the whole affair is overblown, driven more by political reasons than ethical reasons.

[Flojo]

Paul Mcmullen is actually a f*ck*ng idiot, it was like watching someone argue with a child at times.

[Flojo]

Paul Mcmullen has been ripped apart so many times this year, wtf is the guy still appearing on my tv screen. Absolute wanker.

And this whole bullshit line that these idiots are pushing that there won't be freedom of press if there is regulation is nonsense.

Tabloids offer little other than sensationalism and the whole country would be better off without them.

There doesn't need to be more regulations, there are already laws in place that should be properly enforced if people are found guilty of any wrongdoing.

A bad free press is always better than a good controlled press, as the saying goes. I don't want the UK ending up like France.

If anything the closure of the News of the World makes a case against regulation, its closure wasn't driven by the government, but by the market.

I personally think the whole affair is overblown, driven more by political reasons than ethical reasons.

wtf

Had it been strictly about politicians you might have a leg to stand on but they were tapping the phones of people who's relatives had been killed and murdered, there is no way anyone can say the reaction hasn't been warranted.

The NOTW and the like are a bag of sh*t that do more harm than good, constantly distorting the lines between fact and opinion to push their agendas.

They broke numerous laws and should be punished to the full extent of the law. They were always complaining about the leniency of the courts, it would be perfect if they were subjected to the harsher sentences they've been begging for.

[MARVELL]

lol@ people talking about not wanting to be like france <img src='http://www.vip2.co.uk/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/confused4.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':/' /> whats the difference? .....the UK press is in bed with the govt and has been for the last 60yrs. ............................................ every now and then decide who's a valid scapegoat  OR non entity, or collateral damage and once in a while toss them out to the public making it look like some amazing investigative journalism was going on. we might as well have a more regulated press than the sh*t dis-tractive information we constantly read about... ............................................mixing "news"; about immigrants and Health cuts with pictures of angelina jolie's new titty job and the name of beckhams new son..calling that news. everyone one of them can f*ck off cos they are just part and parcel of the govt..when to the same schools, f*ck the same women, and all work for each other at some point, and pat each other on the back. they never tell you real news so they are practically useless. if this was some muslim crew now.. there would be at least 50 suspects locked up by now... in private they are all laughing at you and will just throw a few expendables away....

[Flojo]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/video/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world-phone-hacking-nick-davies-rupert-murdoch-video

watch the first few minutes of that video then come back and defend these cunts, sickening.

[Ulysses]

Paul Mcmullen has been ripped apart so many times this year, wtf is the guy still appearing on my tv screen. Absolute wanker.

And this whole bullshit line that these idiots are pushing that there won't be freedom of press if there is regulation is nonsense.

Tabloids offer little other than sensationalism and the whole country would be better off without them.

There doesn't need to be more regulations, there are already laws in place that should be properly enforced if people are found guilty of any wrongdoing.

A bad free press is always better than a good controlled press, as the saying goes. I don't want the UK ending up like France.

If anything the closure of the News of the World makes a case against regulation, its closure wasn't driven by the government, but by the market.

I personally think the whole affair is overblown, driven more by political reasons than ethical reasons.

wtf

Had it been strictly about politicians you might have a leg to stand on but they were tapping the phones of people who's relatives had been killed and murdered, there is no way anyone can say the reaction hasn't been warranted.

The NOTW and the like are a bag of sh*t that do more harm than good, constantly distorting the lines between fact and opinion to push their agendas.

They broke numerous laws and should be punished to the full extent of the law. They were always complaining about the leniency of the courts, it would be perfect if they were subjected to the harsher sentences they've been begging for.

Of course I know what they did and I am not defending their actions. Of course if anyone is found guilty of anything they should face the full force of the law. All I am saying is that the moral outrage on the most part has been political rather than ethical, it has been driven by forces who hate Murdoch irregardless of this scandal, and hypocritical Labour MPs who want to damage Cameron as well.

Of course that is your opinion. The same could be said of the BBC. You think any other media outlet doesn't have its own prejudices, its own ideologies? The BBC, this country's most influential news media organ, is culturally leftist, as admitted by it own directors. And it is even more dangerous because everyone assumes they are impartial. You don't think they don't push their own agendas? Why is pushing agendas suddenly the preserve of the right-wing media A Panorama documentary for the BBC was found to contain faked evidence for instance. Johann Hari of the Independent was found plagiarizing.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/7079708/what-the-papers-wont-say.thtml

Have a read through that. Every newspaper bar the Telegraph and The Independent have been caught paying for private information. When is Guardian going to go after the Mirror?

[Zizouz]

deleting the messages. . . pain

[Ulysses]

lol@ people talking about not wanting to be like france <img src='http://www.vip2.co.uk/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/confused4.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':/' /> whats the difference? .....the UK press is in bed with the govt and has been for the last 60yrs. ............................................ every now and then decide who's a valid scapegoat  OR non entity, or collateral damage and once in a while toss them out to the public making it look like some amazing investigative journalism was going on. we might as well have a more regulated press than the sh*t dis-tractive information we constantly read about... ............................................mixing "news"; about immigrants and Health cuts with pictures of angelina jolie's new titty job and the name of beckhams new son..calling that news. everyone one of them can f*ck off cos they are just part and parcel of the govt..when to the same schools, f*ck the same women, and all work for each other at some point, and pat each other on the back. they never tell you real news so they are practically useless. if this was some muslim crew now.. there would be at least 50 suspects locked up by now... in private they are all laughing at you and will just throw a few expendables away....

There is a big difference between the privacy laws here and in France. For example it supposedly common knowledge in French political circles that the Former French minister Jack Lang had orgies with Moroccan boys. It was blurted out on French television, breaking the usual conventions. But things like that could never have been reported at the time in France because of their stringent privacy laws. Luckily in this country atm we have no such laws.

Yeah the press and the political class are all too chummy, and they all reside a in political metropolitan world which is far removed from the average Briton.

[MARVELL]

if a minister is f*ck*ng boys and not doing anything illegal..what is my business with that>? how does that impact on his job? perhaps the privacy laws you are talkign about are the ones that allow the briitsh press to chase everyone about wanting to know who or what they sleep with? if the education minister is married to a pig its not my business if he or she got to the job on merit and is doing a good job. ................... politicians are not celebrities and we only need to give a f*ck about their private lives when they do something illegal, or there is a serious conflict of interest. all those journalists chasing politicians and celebs about the place are all fags themselves anyway and they never get exposed so bring on French privacy laws if thats your argument.

[Ulysses]

if a minister is f*ck*ng boys and not doing anything illegal..what is my business with that

Notwithstanding the illogicality of that statement, You would be happy for a minister of state to be a paedophile? Ok. Cool.

[Flojo]

brilliant.

[Zizouz]

one of the few times a standing ovation is warranted

[Ulysses]

Murdoch's influence was already in decline before this scandal. He couldn't even deliver Cameron a majority, notwithstanding how unpopular Brown was. All of his newspapers were in decline.This scandal has just hastened this.

I don't know why that Brooks woman still has a job.

I personally don't have a problem with him consolidating his ownership of BSkyB. He would actually dispose of Sky News as well as part of the deal. So no UK fox news. And I don't see how he can have a malign influence on public life through entertainment channels. And I don't see how the charges leveled at his tabloids, would impact the way a television company is run. I don't see any incentives for corrupt activities at sky, and i don't see how any political agenda can be pushed especially without a news channel.

[Guest Awesome Kong]

Murdoch's influence was already in decline before this scandal. He couldn't even deliver Cameron a majority, notwithstanding how unpopular Brown was. All of his newspapers were in decline.This scandal has just hastened this.

I don't know why that Brooks woman still has a job.

I personally don't have a problem with him consolidating his ownership of BSkyB. He would actually dispose of Sky News as well as part of the deal. So no UK fox news. And I don't see how he can have a malign influence on public life through entertainment channels. And I don't see how the charges leveled at his tabloids, would impact the way a television company is run. I don't see any incentives for corrupt activities at sky, and i don't see how any political agenda can be pushed especially without a news channel.

He will supply financial support for Sky News and can buy it again in a few years, which basically means he still owns it. IMO, they should strip him off news international and BskyB and sell it to someone else.

[djbmc]

I personally think the whole affair is overblown, driven more by political reasons than ethical reasons.

this is true, not the overblown bit ubt ppl have known about this sh*t for years, you can bet plenty of other journalists engaged in the same types of activities and their editors knew all about it and turned a blind eye. I can't help but feel the reason it's come into the public domain now is because other media outlets are desperate to stop Murdoch's Sky takeover.

[Mr Q]

Over blown, when there are allegations that the corporation bribed police officers?!?

Lool. Come on.

And who said that there is anything wrong with pushing an agenda. It's the ignorance they promote through their sensationalized stories (along with other tabloids and the daily mail) that makes them deplorable.

And comparing the Hari thing to this is laughable, nowhere near the same. People hounded him like he had hacked

into a dead girls phone and deleted the messages, spreading false hope to her parents that she was still alive. And had the nerve to bribe the metropolitan police to give him information, then brazenly admit it to a select committee and not fear any time of come back.

Smh at Johann.

[Mr Q]

I mean their arrogance runs through all of these cunts from pierce Morgan to Brooks, lol at McMullen saying it's cause of the notw that this country doesn't have a Hitler!

Gtfohwtbs

[djbmc]

i didn't agree with the overblown bit, and i'm 100% behind all of this but really it once again boils down to the mainstream media generating outrage from the public to suit their own motives. the guardian aren't on a moral crusade for the victims of the phone "scandals", they're pushing their own agenda thru the angry masses.

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that guy on newsnight was a fuking idiot, coogan was going in lol

[Mr Q]

''Don't worry over-much about the journalists who've lost their jobs on the News of the World - I read somewhere that the unemployed live the life of Reilly, thousands of pounds in benefits, free houses, work on the side.........''

- George Galloway MP

[Flojo]

i didn't agree with the overblown bit, and i'm 100% behind all of this but really it once again boils down to the mainstream media generating outrage from the public to suit their own motives. the guardian aren't on a moral crusade for the victims of the phone "scandals", they're pushing their own agenda thru the angry masses.

'They're pushing their own agenda through the masses', based on what? How does this story deviate from the type of news the Guardian normally report?

The fact you paint all journalists with the same brush is testament to how damaging the tabloids have been over the past few decades. There are journalists who got into the business for the purpose of doing real investigative journalism to report on news that has substance and actually matters.

[djbmc]

lolwut? i don't even read tabloids, and i base my assessment on the fact that these latest 'shocking revelations' have emerged at a time when the acquisition of bskyb by murdoch is almost cemented, i'm not 'painting all journalists with the same brush' it's the editors that i have a problem with. and as for 'how is this any different to what the guardian normally report" i don't think i have to answer that, it's fairly obvious isn't it? if u want to believe that all this has come to light because of the actions of a brave minority who nobly risked their careers to rid the media industry of its endemic corruption then that's cool, but i'm too cynical for that.