Showdown at the UN...palestinian vote

[Captain Planet]

Nigeria, ghana, and most west african countries are fucking pussies anyway

they have big mouths but zero action. once white man says jump they will

The problem with America's influence. If you dont back them they wont help you.

Getting rich is probably more important to these countries than supporting palestine

the problem with those countries is they should realise they dont need america's help as much as they beleive they do

there are many other countries more than willing to take america's place in terms of trading.

and as if Mobil and Texaco will tell nigeria : yeh we wont drill no more oil..we're leaving.

the usual "help" these p*ssy countries rely on from the west is always mainly miltiary

so they are looking at that... no military help to continue killing your people, not about getting rich, when they already are

you arent in their shoes so you dnt know

the last time a man tried to oppose the us govt and unite africa he was overthrown, demonized and exiled and probably assasinated

See: Dr Kwame Nkrumah

i dont need to be in their shoes. its obvious.

no need to unite africa, start at home first.

and he was overthrown by his own people yes? so is it america that is so powerful or ghanians are so stupid? you choose.

CIA operation, documents have been released so...

[MARVELL]

this isnt about Nkrumah, whether CIA or not, they used ghanains to carry out the coup NO?

or did they literally bop out from langley like jack bauer and overthrow him

nor did they drag ordinary people off the street to do it.

probably used his right hand men as well.

[Jeremy]

Obama: America's 'first Jewish president'?

Obama is the "the first Jewish President". That's the title of New York magazine's lead article, written by John Heilemann and quoting a major Obama fundraiser.

Listening to Obama speak at the United Nations on Wednesday many would nod in agreement, not less in Palestine and the Arab world.

The US president has embraced the rejectionist Israeli position on the question of international recognition of an independent Palestinian state.

But that's not a Jewish position. It's a radical Zionist position. Many Jews, including US and Israeli Jews, do not embrace such extremist views.....

full article: http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/09/201192216365733499.html

[Captain Planet]

this isnt about Nkrumah, whether CIA or not, they used ghanains to carry out the coup NO?

or did they literally bop out from langley like jack bauer and overthrow him

nor did they drag ordinary people off the street to do it.

probably used his right hand men as well.

why u trying it?

this was political espionage

opposition parties were funded

ill leave it here

[SLEAZE BALL]

I think ur missing the point he's making CP

TBH It's 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other

[MARVELL]

this isnt about Nkrumah, whether CIA or not, they used ghanains to carry out the coup NO?

or did they literally bop out from langley like jack bauer and overthrow him

nor did they drag ordinary people off the street to do it.

probably used his right hand men as well.

why u trying it?

this was political espionage

opposition parties were funded

ill leave it here

dont make this out to be some tory / conservative thing. about opposition parties

they found the many fools who feel power hungry, not some proper opposition bcos they had a better way of leading the country.

Nkrumah inaugurated the Akosombo Dam on 26 January 1966. A month later, on 24 February 1966, he was overthrown in a military coup masterminded by America in collaboration with Britain and France (according to former CIA officers who have written books about it, and recent declassified American government documents). The documents, declassified at the end of 1999 but recently made public, show that the American government started talking about Nkrumah's overthrow as far back as 6 February 1964. two full years before the actual event, when the then secretary of state Dean Rusk and the CIA Director John McCone met and picked the Ghanaian general, J.A. Ankrah, as the man to take over from Nkrumah

Africans need to realise that they have been sodomised mostly for their own fault. this is not the same as the palestinians

[BLACK VICTIM]

free palestine

[Captain Planet]

free palestine

[Guest phonecharger]

free the dons and thier sans

[GoldCoast]

obama the coward

[Mr Q]

this isnt about Nkrumah, whether CIA or not, they used ghanains to carry out the coup NO?

or did they literally bop out from langley like jack bauer and overthrow him

nor did they drag ordinary people off the street to do it.

probably used his right hand men as well.

why u trying it?

this was political espionage

opposition parties were funded

ill leave it here

dont make this out to be some tory / conservative thing. about opposition parties

they found the many fools who feel power hungry, not some proper opposition bcos they had a better way of leading the country.

Nkrumah inaugurated the Akosombo Dam on 26 January 1966. A month later, on 24 February 1966, he was overthrown in a military coup masterminded by America in collaboration with Britain and France (according to former CIA officers who have written books about it, and recent declassified American government documents). The documents, declassified at the end of 1999 but recently made public, show that the American government started talking about Nkrumah's overthrow as far back as 6 February 1964. two full years before the actual event, when the then secretary of state Dean Rusk and the CIA Director John McCone met and picked the Ghanaian general, J.A. Ankrah, as the man to take over from Nkrumah

Africans need to realise that they have been sodomised mostly for their own fault. this is not the same as the palestinians

Same with Patrice Lumumba. Africa was a playground during the Cold War.

[djbmc]

Palestine addressing un now on BBC news

[time_bomb]

locked in, they have requested UN membership.

[djbmc]

He got a standing ovation when he entered

[Skola]

fuck im at work couldnt watch

[The Somalian]

Good speech from Abbas see the isreali lot sitting down vex during the standing ovation

Allot of countries were not supporting still

[time_bomb]

his speech got a pretty good response, will it change anything? doubt it

[Mythy Collins]

http://www.unmultimedia.org/tv/webcast/

[MARVELL]

HE DID IT........ I WAS THINKNIG HE WOULD BACK DOWN AND DO SOME COMPROMISE

LOL@ ALL THE COMPROMISE TALK WHEN THOSE KHAZARIANS HAVE BEEN STALLING TALKS WHILE EXPANDING LAND FOR 60YRS ...

[The Somalian]

Netanyahu speaking now

Bringing up September 11 what's that got to do with Palestine

[djbmc]

They fucking go on

[Vertigo]

Intresting article about Israel.

Let's imagine for a moment that at this time next year, by some miracle, Benjamin Netanyahu and Mahmoud Abbas meet on the White House lawn to sign the accord that will create the nation of Palestine. All disagreements are forever resolved - from where the borders of the two countries will lie, to how they will share Jerusalem as their capital.

Let's also assume that all Muslim and Arab nations will keep their promise to recognise Israel – and that the militants of Hamas, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad are consigned to the dustbin of history. Israel is finally free to realise its full potential as a nation. Or, to put it another way – Israel is finally free to let its own internal divisions and hatreds tear it apart. If you think Israelis and Palestinians don't see eye to eye, the gulf between secular Israelis and the ultra-orthodox religious is probably just as wide.

Go to Tel Aviv on a Saturday morning, and you'll see one version of Israel – secular, middle-class sun-worshippers, sitting in trendy beachside cafes, munching on bacon and eggs, or hummus and salad. Then, on the same Saturday morning, drive 40 minutes up the highway to Jerusalem, where you'll visit an entirely different country. Here, there are no cars, and streets are closed off with police barriers – as ultra-orthodox Jews in black overcoats and fur hats walk to the Western Wall to pray.

And no, the two groups don't get along.

Secular Israelis work, pay taxes, and serve in the army. Ultra-orthodox, or Haredi Jews, don't. Secular Israelis are prepared to die for their country in battle, but have to travel outside it to get married in a civil ceremony. Not surprisingly, it's a pretty sore point. Especially as the demographic balance is shifting fast. Secular couples have, on average, around two children per couple. Haredi couples have closer to eight or nine. And it's changing the very identity of Israel – away from the secular, socialist civil society it was created as in 1948 – to something quite different.

To see it in action, you only need to take a peek inside an Israeli school. Israeli's government funds three streams of education; regular state schools, ultra-orthodox religious schools, and Israeli Arab schools. Back in 1960, only around 15 per cent of Israeli children were enrolled in religious or Arab schools. That figure is now around 50 per cent. In 30 years, it will be almost 80 per cent. That is a frightening statistic for the nation of Israel.

Arab Israelis have long had lower education, and higher unemployment levels.

But the real problem is in the religious stream. In religious schools, children don't learn mathematics, science, or English; only the Bible. All day, every day. And Haredi men are expected to - and do - continue that Bible study for the rest of their lives. It's all funded by the taxpayers. And the taxpayers are... secular Israelis. What does it mean? Well, if the figures are to be believed, in less than 30 years, Israel will have a population where the majority either can't, or won't join the workforce – putting an increasing, and impossible burden on the secular minority to pay the taxes and serve in the army.

This, in the 'Startup Nation' - the country that prides itself on its hi-tech sector. Israel has the ideas, the inventors, and the entrepreneurs - but already, it has to import workers from overseas, because there aren't enough educated Israelis in the job market. It's not sustainable. Israelis know about it, and sometimes talk about it, but Israel's government does nothing. It's just too hard – especially as the political power of the ultra-religious is growing. It's almost impossible to form a government in Israel today without them.

Opposition - and resentment - is growing. Middle-class, taxpaying, secular Israelis are already so angry about the mere cost of living – and that their children cannot afford to buy or rent a home – that they have taken to the streets in huge numbers. But it's hard to see how any government – however brave – is going to be able to turn the ship around without committing political suicide.

Now let's imagine that in a year from now, Benjamin Netanyahu and Mahmoud Abbas have not reached a peace deal. All of the current problems are still there; but Israel is even more isolated, the Palestinians are even more frustrated, and sitting in the midst of an ever more unstable and chaotic region. This week's UN assembly might have put Israel and Palestine back in the headlines - but it won't solve the conflict. And soon enough, it will all fade from view again.

And all the while, behind the scenes, Israel's demographic time bomb is still ticking away.

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[Jeremy]

dunno y, but im suprised they sell bacon in Israel

[Skola]

if that article is accurate

america will fund them

[djbmc]

I don't think America could afford to fund them, especially not at the level they'll require