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34 minutes ago, Gambino said:

It's made to seem unlikely Trump can win but then again they all told us Brexit couldn't either. Problem is and unsurprisingly a lot of people totally ignore all the terrible things about her and previous leaks already. 

the same way people like you ignore all the terrible things about him and the fact that he's just a bufoon. 

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Like what? What have I ignored about him considering I'm an active poster in here that talks about them both constantly and follows the election.

Break it down to me what I've missed talking about and what makes Trump worse than Clinton please? 

Anything to do with him is heavily put out there by the media...... We all know who they represent and who they want in power. We've been told the big media firms have been putting out word that if anyone shows support for Trump they lose their job. CNN have been caught out on camera telling so called neutral audience members what to say when the camera roles on them about Clinton. Seems like the guys on here who would act like they are against the establishment which they cry doesn't treat them equally are all for it in reality.

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that he cannot declare his taxes for the last 20 years, something that all presidential candidates do and have done

that he cannot explain for more than 1 minute anything indepth about any of his policies, just sound bytes akin to the sun headlines for stupid angry people who will believe anything

that he flip flops his statements depending on what side his fucking tupe is combed that morning...its as if he argues with himself every few days

This is not about clinton.its about trump, try and stick on donald trump for 2 seconds without comparing him to clinton..talk about his own merits 

hes a billionaire..woo hooo..thats about it. not the type of billionaire that actually created something from scratch, just an egomaniac only meant for those that 007 fights against. 

someone like him cannot run a country, bcos hes usually got his way by bullying or paying his way out of stuff. 

he talks about jailing bankers.. who the fuck made him rich? who gave him the loans when he was bankrupt..crowd funding hillbillies like you?

can YOU afford anything he owns? can YOU afford to stay in any of his apartments?

youre just an idiot if you believe he can be fit to be a councillor talkless of a president. 

his type of billionaire dont need to work with many people who dont agree with him... his type of billionaire exemplify american greed, 

 

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50 minutes ago, Da Luv Doc said:

So Bill has a mixed race son that he has been ignoring and denying smh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLOp2yBhuTE

 

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8 hours ago, VENOM said:

that he cannot declare his taxes for the last 20 years, something that all presidential candidates do and have done

that he cannot explain for more than 1 minute anything indepth about any of his policies, just sound bytes akin to the sun headlines for stupid angry people who will believe anything

that he flip flops his statements depending on what side his fucking tupe is combed that morning...its as if he argues with himself every few days

This is not about clinton.its about trump, try and stick on donald trump for 2 seconds without comparing him to clinton..talk about his own merits 

hes a billionaire..woo hooo..thats about it. not the type of billionaire that actually created something from scratch, just an egomaniac only meant for those that 007 fights against. 

someone like him cannot run a country, bcos hes usually got his way by bullying or paying his way out of stuff. 

he talks about jailing bankers.. who the fuck made him rich? who gave him the loans when he was bankrupt..crowd funding hillbillies like you?

can YOU afford anything he owns? can YOU afford to stay in any of his apartments?

youre just an idiot if you believe he can be fit to be a councillor talkless of a president. 

his type of billionaire dont need to work with many people who dont agree with him... his type of billionaire exemplify american greed, 

 

Take it you don't actually bother watching the debates then. He was asked about not paying his Taxes because of his losses claims all those years ago and he said yea I haven't had to because Hilary keeps in place a system that allows him to not to have to. He said she keeps it in place because all her friends like Warren Buffet and that demon George Soros favour that she does. Are we meant to be mad at him for not breaking the law or more mad at someone for purposely breaking the law.

He talks about his policies same way she does in her debates. Although he doesn't wanna go out and tell everyone how he would defeat ISIS like Clinton which makes total sense. Why the hell would you warn your enemies how you are gonna come at them?

How is this not about Clinton????? It's a Presidential race between 2 people, you either have one as your leader or the other. I just specifically asked you to tell me why Trump is worse than Hilary as a choice So don't act like it's nothing to do with Clinton, the whole argument is that she's a worse person and leader than him. What did I say about you lot ignoring everything Clinton has done, and now you are telling me "It's not about Clinton" EXACTLY PROVING MY POINT.

He borrowed money from his father and turned it into a few Billion, get over it. Now you are trying to throw insults at me because you wanna deflect from talking about Clinton again.

I gave you the opportunity to reply and once again you have just shown how incapable you lot are of showing why Trump is worse than Hilary. Like a good little left wing libtard you get offended at the sheer thought of having to give reasonable answers on your elite masters and start trying to attack the people who asked the question. You are a true puppet.

Now you have finished babbling on about Trump and the Luxories he has in life which seem to annoy you even though Hilary has made £250 Mill off the back of ripping people off and stealing from the people of Haiti... Why don't you now give me another long post telling me how wonderful she is and why she is electable. 

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Depends on what experience is required to run a country I guess. He's run a business, he's obviously got Leadership qualities. Hilary has never been President either, but she has been in politics involved in running a country and look at the job she has done? I'd say a pretty awful one, and if you did the same at your job you would probably be let go/sacked. Where as she is looking for that promotion for being shit at what she does.

I say give the new guy a chance..... I don't know how he would fair. And I don't think he's the most ideal person in the world given his egotistical ways. But Americans pretty much have two choices and he comes across as the anti establishment, non politically correct person that speaks his mind and lets you know where he stands. Far better to me than the other choice who admits she has a different opinion on public than the one she expresses in private. He's the only one to mend relations with Russia etc IMO as well.

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Putins boy saying if Clinton is voted in she could be americas last ever president ?

 

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Saudi and Qatar largest exporters of oil to the USA and one of the largest importers of weapons, military jets, ships bomb from USA and Europe.

Transfers of heavy conventional weapons

The top 10 exporters of conventional arms (excluding small arms/ light weapons – SALW) 2010-15

USA                     US$55.006 billion

Russia                  US$42.404 billion

China                   US$9.943 billion

Germany              US$ 9.467 billion

France                 US$ 8.932 billion

UK                       US$ 7.627 billion

Spain                   US$ 5.310 billion

Italy                     US$ 4.360 billion

Ukraine                 US$ 4.156 billion

Israel                    US$ 3.280 billion

The top 10 importers of conventional arms (excluding SALWs) 2010-15

India                      US$23.124 billion

Saudi Arabia           US$11.002 billion

China                     US$7.726 billion

UAE                       US$7.156 billion

Pakistan                 US$6.899 billion

Australia                 US$6.711 billion

Turkey                    US$5.410 billion

US                          US$5.220 billion

South Korea             US$5.011 billion

Singapore                US$4.344 billion

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/08/killer-facts-the-scale-of-the-global-arms-trade/

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15 minutes ago, dub said:

wouldn't be surprised, but doubt its as black and white as "Saudis hate the western world so they fund terrorists", probably something like they need to move goods through IS territory so they give them money for safe passage

 

nah more to do with destablising the region around them so they can monopolise islam how they want. They dont want a moderate version gaining popularity.

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Truth who knows? but a former Chef that worked for the Clintons has came out saying he witnessed Hilary calling a Black Servant "That N....." And she's counting on that African American vote. Doubt the media will pick up on the story even though they've ran stories of Trump which similarly had no audio or video evidence.

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On 14/10/2016 at 4:42 PM, dub said:

really?

where should I start reading to understand where that view would come from?

The emergence of the Saudi dynasty began in central Arabia in 1744. In that year, Muhammad ibn Saud, the tribal ruler of the town of Ad-Dir'iyyah near Riyadh, joined forces with the religious leader Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab, the founder of the Wahhabi movement – a radical form of Islam.

1802 - Saud family and its Sunni Wahhabi allies, capture Mecca

1803 - The Wahhabis do not view the Shia as Muslims. A Shia assassinates the conqueror Abdul Aziz of the House of Saud.

As america was first to realise it's potential in the mid 1800's for lubrication and early lanterns and quickly caused a major shortage due to there oil boom and ecomony now being banked rolled off it. realising shortages could be a possibiilty... expeditions across the globe for oil happened.

1908 - Middle East (Controlled by the Ottoman empire) was realised by western world for it's natural oil

1913 - Although the U.S. oil industry had marketed abroad extensively before the war, it owned few foreign properties. Judging from government surveys, many producers believed that a major oil shortage would soon occur. Both Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover and Secretary of State Charles Evans Hughes began to pressure American companies to seek oil abroad. These firms invested in the Middle East, Southeast Asia, and South America and searched for oil everywhere while they continued to export quantities of oil from the United States. - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Prize-Epic-Quest-Money-Power/dp/1847376460/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1476794258&sr=1-2&keywords=oil The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money & Power

1914 - 1919 WW1 happens using all the British empire cononial countries like India/pakistan and countries in North Africa, along with other European allies to push the ottoman empire out and control persia. During this war Rockefeller who owned "standard oil" and who was already in bed with the banking/federal powers (usual cry antisemetiism if you highlight them) that be prior to the war, became a billionaire out of this war. - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Prize-Epic-Quest-Money-Power/dp/1847376460/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1476794258&sr=1-2&keywords=oil The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money & Power

1916 - British divide the persian/former ottoman terrority Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, or Palestine

https://newrepublic.com/article/118409/mideast-unravelling-and-theres-not-much-us-can-do

1917 - The Balfour Declaration was a letter dated 2 November 1917 from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. It read:

His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

Winston churchill signed this off for the ok. (plenty of books and videos of this)

1929 - 1941 - USA has the "great depression" The Federal reserve... bascically put the country into recession...

1932 - Saudi Arabia founded as a sovereign state

1933 - Rockefellers Standard Oil secured the first contract to drill for oil in Saudia Arabia (ruled by Wahhabis/Saud Clan extremist islam interpretation)

1933 - German Holocaust happens (research who bank rolled the nazi's) they usually cry antisemetic tones if you point these facts out. - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1905570279/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1HANT831MHIBL&coliid=I1OCV1AT885MPH - Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler: The Astonishing True Story of the American Financiers Who Bankrolled the Nazis

(justification emotive narrative set)

1939 - 1945 WW2 happens (same bankers above provided the finance for this war too) - https://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

1948 State of Israel Founded - Millions of Europeans who originated from the Caucasus regions of Yiddish and Ashkenazi (german) tongue started entering in Israel who were never native to these lands. (Beginning in the 8th century, Khazar royalty and notable segments of the aristocracy converted to Judaism; the populace appears to have been multi-confessional—a mosaic of pagan, Tengrist, Jewish, Christian and Muslim worshippers—and polyethnic.) - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Khazar-Empire-Its-Heritage/dp/0394402847/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1476797592&sr=1-1&keywords=khazars

The Khazar Empire and Its Heritage. (a good vid on the tube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JmFTGEN3mk)

1948 - Arab/Israeli War begins

 

the newly-created state of Israel went to war with five of its Arab neighbors. To the Israelis, this event is known as the War of Independence.  For Palestinians, it is part of the Nakba, or "The Catastrophe."

Southwest Asia was emerging from British and French mandatory rule at the end of World War II.  New countries such as Transjordan (Jordan), Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria gained their independence from the UN mandates in the mid-1940s.  However, the UN had a different plan for the former British mandate of Palestine.

Since early in the 20th century, some Jewish people from Europe and North Africa had begun to return to Palestine, their ancient homeland.  The Romans had expelled their ancestors from the Kingdom of Israel in 135 CE, after crushing the Third Jewish Revolt.  It was also the Romans who renamed the land "Palestine," meaning "Land of the Philistines," in an attempt to break the Jewish people's ties to Israel.

  However, over almost 2,000 years of exile, the Jewish diaspora never lost their longing to return to the Land of Israel.  The 20th century movement for their return is known as "Zionism."

Unfortunately, the land was not sitting empty for 2,000 years, waiting for the Jews to return.  Other people, mostly ethnic Arabs of the Muslim and Christian faiths, had been living in Palestine for all of those long centuries, building homes and cities, planting gardens and orchards, and sinking deep roots in the soil.  Palestine/Israel was their homeland, too. - http://asianhistory.about.com/od/warsinasia/fl/The-1948-Arab-Israeli-War.htm

1948 - Beyond.. USA becomes the world superpower country..


Prior to that from ancient times:

Crude oil that had bubbled to the surface was used by the ancient people of the Middle East. The Babylonians – modern day Iraqis – used oil to waterproof their boats and as mortar in building construction. The Egyptians also used oil in the preparation of mummies to help preserve corpses. However it would be a long time before the full potential of this mysterious black substance would be understood, or exploited.

There is no one book that covers in one simple detail. But collective research and logical step by step reveals why the middle east kept de-stablised.

Throughout wars of old and new, there is group consistent through and finance/bank roll/or create financial collapse through all of the shiite.

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