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10 minutes ago, Ephren Taylor said:

Round 3 of the debate tonight.... 

Trump trying to say the election is rigged against him :rofl:

it is... you've clearly done no research... watch the video i've posted for a sample of the bullshit that's REALLY gwarning but you lot can't buy into it because it's not coming from the media places you all claim are out to get you and are evil but still get all your views and opinions from

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you don't even have your own opinions on why you think he's crazy, the right are painted with the crazy/stupid dismissive brush by the left and you eat every bit of food scraps they throw you're way...

I used to think him and all them man alike were crazy conspiracy nut cases because that was how they were presented to me by the general media... but when you look back at things they said and with our hindsight can see they were actually speaking the truth it makes you question things...

the leftist dismissive tone that permeates this forum is funny as fuck... everyone talking like they've got inside information and are "enligthened" yet all there information is from tv/facebook give me a break... You all talk like"fuck the media, they out to get us and don't report on real shit" yet every bit of info about the causes you're apparently fighting for all comes from the media, you are hand in hand with them...

and the thing is on here when you come with facts and videos to back shit up, no one debates back, just give some dismissive "you're stupid" reply

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28 minutes ago, Gambino said:

 - having or showing a rational, modern, and well-informed outlook.

You man stick to the Media though yea... When you hear them Pipes make sure you keep scuttling behind your masters.

Problem is neither one of the candidates are good enough. Both are flawed and wreckless. Neither one of them is going to make a slight bit of difference. One will tell you he hates you and shoot you in your face (Trump), The other will tell you she loves you and shoot you in the back.(Hilary)

Hilary - Maintaining the Systematic racism system as ever, whilst denying racism and keeping prisons full of black and latinos

Trump - Overt open racism.. if you prefer it that way. (whilst still maintaing the bent system above)

Wars will still carry on and corporate interests 1st and foremost to be looked after. Police fuckery will still happen.

Past, current and future they're all puppets. The only one to defy his duty of being a puppet was J F Kennedy.. and you know what happened to him.

Him or any other president don't even control the US Army, which is closely tied to corporate interests to feed The military industrial complex, the US Federal Reserve is a private enitity, yet regulates the US Dollar.

Who is really running and sponsoring these candidates and what do they have to gain funding them, is what you need to be aksing... These are the ones lobbying for reforms and changes that suit their interests be it war the social policy change and so on. Same applies to UK and politics.

Look at some of the top companies Hilary is sponsored by - https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?&id=N00023864

Trump - https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?&id=N00023864 the link states cannot be opened right now... Trumps cries of "conspiracy" it's all part of the game.. and if he is self financing, with his billions. Clearly he does not hold leverage with massive media magnates like Hilary who has Time Warner. Who are huge in the media umbrella complex... quite easy to then shift the tide of media output and opinion, when you control it. So the uniformed they may believe him.

Eg the LBGT community group put major money behind Obama to help his media campaigns for election. Once appointed he relaxed laws for their lifestyle... etc..

The corporate bodies run america.. America isn't a country, its a corporation.

Since the Act of 1871 which established the District of Columbia, w the UNITED STATES CORPORATION which is owned by certain international bankers and aristocracy of Europe and Britain. (go research)

Trump is merely a distration.. A cat set amongst the pigeons to ruffle and cause distraction.

Hilary is shill along with the rest of them. Follow the money trail back to Europe

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Major difference though. Everyone can see Trumps flaws, all be it he's too brash, he doesn't bow down to feminism or politically correct bullshit, he lets dumb comments come out his mouth a lot, he wants to grab women by the p*ssy. It really isn't a game changer IMO. Yet the media have him in the headlines 24/7 like he's committed the worst crimes known to man.

Meanwhile all this shit about Hilary is dropping on Wikileaks, the videos are available about the 12 year old rape victim, guys are coming out saying she uses the N word, her issues with stealing money from Haiti aid fund, her Husband being accused of assault, the fact she also voted & put forward the idea of building a wall on the border with Mexico etc etc... And the left don't care.... They literally do not care, don't wanna report it, don't wanna hear it. They are so under the thumb and manipulated it's untrue.

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There is no difference.

Left Wing, Right Wing... Republican, Democrat. Conservative, Liberal.

All belong to the same beast.

Public are being scaremongered into supporting Hilary, like she is any better or lesser of the evils. Reality the voting electrol system accounts for nothing but the illusion of choice, president has already been chosen. Your just watching an elaborate staged reality show.

Even in the face of these allegations of corruption and how the media have jumped up to shield her in face of what she should be locked up for.

Trump.. no need to state the obvious as to what is wrong there.

Public being played for mugs thats all.

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Suppose it depends where you heard it. CNN for example keep polling Clinton as the winner, 52% to 39% this time around. Washington Post Poll had Trump 77% Win.

I watched it and thought it was pretty much a toned down version of the last debate with them both getting their digs in and him coming across as the more honest. Would like to hear a neutral perspective on it though since I already despise Clinton. Moderator was direct with his questioning as well, asked Trump about the sex allegations and Clinton about Wikileaks.

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