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On 7/24/2018 at 2:56 PM, Badman said:

Looool

im sure he didn’t mean it like that ?

Just getting calls don’t mean shit tbh 

lol yeah, sorry for the way it may read - tbh even as a graduate you'll get harassed for job interviews for a 'developer' role, its not fun after you're not looking for something and you get more calls for things you don't want than the heights of PPI cold-calls, and some don't remove you from their database even at multiple requests, maybe GDPR has changed that

 

On 7/25/2018 at 7:04 PM, Rippy said:

Guyz

It's me again w/ my usual career sorrow

Have hit a wall in current company so in process of finding another job. Had an interview today at a startup and I flaked on areas I shouldn't have flaked. It's all good learning though. I want to get out of financial services - but where?! Have no idea what exists outside. I want to do product management but 70-80% of roles require tech background and with summer hols on now that 20% is hard to find. Spinning up motivation in these times is difficult for everyone, right? 

So want to move out of UK again but is the most suitable approach to apply before going, or can I just ditch and spend a month somewhere and scout something? What can I offer to the Europeans that their own citizens can't fulfil? Feel like my mates in the creative world have it easy (they don't - but man I want that passion for work to come back again). 

Advice / guidance in what will be an emotional ride for the next several months, welcome 

 

if you don't mind the idea of working in fintech, maybe do a course in Agile project management then apply for positions in fintech companies - your experience in financial services will probably be attractive in a tech company creating financial products enough for them to look over the lack of experience/education in the role - from there you can gain some experience in tech project management then transition completely out of the financial area if you want

Netherlands, Germany, Sweden - these are countries probably easiest to find work in English

For Berlin I found it was easy to go there first and interview in person, rent wasn't expensive but that's changed a little, you can find sublets on FB groups pretty easily though. Amsterdam was the same except finding a place to stay was pretty expensive. For Paris I've not had the best experience with video calls (while I'm based in Amsterdam still) or even finding many English speaking jobs but I'm making a bit of progress.

As for "what can I offer the Europeans what their own citizens can't?" - the market is huge, competent workers are hard to find, the question is "how do I convince people I'm worth giving a shot on" - maybe that means applying for jobs below what you think you're worth (ie internships) where people will feel there is less risk/cost to them giving you a chance, maybe you know someone in the area you're trying to apply for who can help shape your cover letter or give in your CV with a personal recommendation. 

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Haven't really thought in detail, all I know is that I need a change, somewhere in Europe...maybe for like a year or two and then return

Spain, Greece, Italy etc 

My cousins telling me to come Australia but that's long

 

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8 hours ago, Seydou said:

Try Germany.

Was thinking more of a tourist spot with decent weather. That way I can enjoy myself as well as working (like a long holiday) 

Got 2 sources of income coming from the UK so the job there doesn't even need to pay me too well.

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19 minutes ago, Taurus said:

Was thinking more of a tourist spot with decent weather. That way I can enjoy myself as well as working (like a long holiday) 

Got 2 sources of income coming from the UK so the job there doesn't even need to pay me too well.

Sevilla in Spain is where I was

Had a blast years ago now but it was poppin, lots of students, good nightlife, relaxed atmosphere. Can travel down to the beached in Cadiz or Huelva. Rent is probably still quite cheap but not sure how the job market is

 

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1 minute ago, Seydou said:

Ive been told its easier to get used to compared to other european countries.

Majority of the country know English quite well.

I see

I have never been attracted to Germany, I have an uncle who enjoyed it but he also loves Australia...

I think I'd work in Dam

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