What do you consider flirting?

[O Fenomeno]

[Benicio del Toney]

lol

 

Lord Byron Kane strikes again.

[Kuffir]

lol @ toneys story

 

mind blown @ that bombchel

[Uncle Man]

perhaps youd like to elaborate on the different ways in which men and women love michel?

 

Men love for the sake of it, women love opportunistically.

 

Expecting love from a woman is akin to expecting love from a child. 

interesting, if true

 

they were pretty solid for thousands of years though, what went wrong? (rhetorical)

 

the inference from yr findings is that you agree with me and cipher, but are you then saying a man should undertake a relationship with a whorman fully conceding that he will be cuckolded multiple times a la rob kardashian? 

 

sadly i will never reach that level of maturity

[Michel Kane]

 

perhaps youd like to elaborate on the different ways in which men and women love michel?

 

Men love for the sake of it, women love opportunistically.

 

Expecting love from a woman is akin to expecting love from a child. 

interesting, if true

 

they were pretty solid for thousands of years though, what went wrong? (rhetorical)

 

the inference from yr findings is that you agree with me and cipher, but are you then saying a man should undertake a relationship with a whorman fully conceding that he will be cuckolded multiple times a la rob kardashian? 

 

sadly i will never reach that level of maturity

 

No, no.

 

What I'm saying is, that women 'love' on 2 platforms. The first is, that raw desire for the 'alpha'. Big, strong, decisive, aggressor, etc. Their feminine instincts identifies them as the ones with the best genes to pass on to their children. The second platform is their survival instincts. The desire for a man of resources & utility. One who will maintain the family & look after her.

 

In a woman's early years, she'll love the former & as the year goes on & she's reached her peak and is on the decline, she'll 'love' the latter. This is what I mean when I say she will love opportunistically. She may commit to you, but that raw desire for a man of 'alpha' qualities will still exist.

 

Now, it's very rare for men in today's society to be a combination of both so what you find is, she'll 'settle' for the husband/boyfriend but still fuck on the side.

 

Now as a man, it depends on what stance you have in life. If you want to raise a family, it'll be a long, arduous journey but you will have to get in a relationship. If children aren't particularly important to you, I don't see the REAL need to get into long-term monogamous relationships/marriage

[O Fenomeno]

That's Doctor right there

The last part

[Michel Kane]

There are methods and social contrivances women have used for centuries to ensure that the best male’s genes are selected and secured with the best male provisioning she’s capable of attracting. Ideally the best Man should exemplify both, but rarely do the two exist in the same male (particularly these days) so in the interest of achieving her biological imperative, and prompted by an innate need for security, the feminine as a whole had to develop social conventions and methodologies (which change as her environment and personal conditions do) to effect this. Men are not only up against a female genetic imperative, but also centuries long feminine social conventions established and adapted from a time long before human beings could accurately determine genetic origins.

 

I’ve detailed in many prior threads that mate selection is a psycho-biological function that millennia of evolution has hardwired into both sexes. So internalized and socialized is this process into our collective psyches that we rarely recognize we’re subject to these motivators even when we continually repeat the same behaviors manifested by them (such as having the second kid with the Alpha Bad Boy). So saying that we’re not subject to conditions we’re or are only vaguely aware of is a bit naive.

 

It’s simple deductive logic to follow that for a species to survive it must provide it’s offspring with the best possible conditions to ensure it’s survival – either that or to reproduce in such quantity that it ensures survival. The obvious application of this for women is sharing parental investment with the best possible mate her own genetics allow her to attract and who can provide long term security for her and any potential offspring. Thus women are biologically, psychologically and sociologically the filters of their own reproduction, where as men’s reproductive methodology is to scatter as much of his genetic material as humanly possible to the widest available quantity of sexually available females. He of course has his own criteria for mating selection and determining the best genetic pairing for his reproduction (i.e. she’s gotta be hot), but his criteria is certainly less discriminating than that for women (i.e. no one’s ugly after 2am). This is evidenced in our own hormonal biology; men possess between 12 and17 times the amount of testosterone (the primary hormone in sexual arousal) women do and women produce substantially more estrogen (instrumental in sexual caution) and oxytocin (fostering feelings of security and nurturing) than men.

 

That stated, both of these methodologies conflict in practice. For a woman to best ensure the survival of her young, a man must necessarily abandon his method of reproduction in favor of her own. This then sets a contradictory imperative for him to pair with a woman who will satisfy his methodology. A male must sacrifice his reproductive schedule to satisfy that of the woman he pairs with. Thus, with so much genetic potential at stake on his part of the risk, he want’s not only to ensure that she is the best possible candidate for breeding (and future breeding), but also to know that his progeny will benefit from both parent’s investment.

 

Side note: One interesting outcome of this psycho-biological dynamic is men’s ability to spot their own children in a crowd of other children more quickly and with greater acuity than even their mothers. Studies have shown that men have the ability to more quickly and accurately identify their own children in a room full of kids dressed in the same uniforms than the mothers of the child. Again, this stresses the subconscious importance of this genetic trade off.

 

These are the rudiments of human sexual selection and reproduction. There are many other social, emotional, psychological intricacies that are associated with these fundamentals, but they are the underlying motivations and considerations that subconsciously influence sexual selection.

 

Social Convention

To counter this subconscious dynamic to their own genetic advantage women initiate social conventions and psychological schemas to better facilitate their own breeding methodologies. This is why women always have the “prerogative to change her mind” and the most fickle of behaviors become socially excusable, while men’s behavior is constrained to a higher standard of responsibility to “do the right thing” which is invariably to the advantage of a woman’s reproductive scheme . This is why guys who are ‘Players’, and fathers who abandon mothers to pursue their innate reproduction method are villains, and fathers who selflessly sacrifice themselves financially, emotionally and life decision-wise, often to the benefit of children they didn’t father, are considered social heroes for complying with women’s genetic imperatives.

 

This is also the root motivation for female-specific social dynamics such as LJBF rejections, women’s propensity for victimhood (as they’ve learned that this engenders ‘savior’ mental schemas for men’s breeding schedules – Cap’n Save a Ho) and even marriage itself.

 

Good Dads vs Good Genes

The two greatest difficulties for women to overcome in their own methodology is that they are only at a sexually viable peak for a short window of time (generally their 20s) and the fact that the qualities that make a good long term partner (the Good Dad) and the qualities that make for good breeding stock (Good Genes) only rarely manifest themselves in the same male. Provisioning and security potential are fantastic motivators for pairing with a Good Dad, but the same characteristics that make him such are generally a disadvantage when compared with the man who better exemplifies genetic, physical attraction and the risk taking qualities that would imbue her child with a better capacity to adapt to it’s environment (i.e stronger, faster, more attractive than others to ensure the passing of her own genetic material to future generations). This is the Jerk vs. Nice Guy paradox writ large on an evolutionary scale.

 

Men and women innately (though unconsciously) understand this dynamic, so in order for a woman to have the best that the Good Dad has to offer while taking advantage of the best that the Good Genes man has, she must invent and constantly modify social conventions to keep the advantage in her biological favor.

 

Reproductive Schedules

This paradox then necessitates that women (and by default men) must subscribe to short term and long term schedules of mating. Short term schedules facilitate breeding with the Good Genes male, while long term breeding is reserved the Good Dad male. This convention and the psycho-social schemas that accompany it are precisely why women will marry the Nice Guy, stable, loyal, (preferably) doctor and still fuck the pool boy or the cute surfer she met on spring break. In our genetic past, a male with good genes implied an ability to be a good provider, but modern convention has thwarted this, so new social and mental schemas had to be developed for women.

 

Cheating

For this dynamic and the practicality of enjoying the best of both genetic worlds, women find it necessary to ‘cheat’. This cheating can be done proactively or reactively.

 

In the reactive model, a woman who has already paired with her long term partner choice, engages in a extramarital or extra-pairing, sexual intercourse with a short term partner (i.e. the cheating wife or girlfriend). That’s not to say this short term opportunity cannot develop into a 2nd, long term mate, but the action of infidelity itself is a method for securing better genetic stock than the committed male provider is capable of supplying.

 

Proactive cheating is the single Mommy dilema. This form of ‘cheating’ relies on the woman breeding with a Good Genes male, bearing his children and then abandoning him, or having him abandon her, (again through invented social conventions) in order to find a Good Dad male to provide for her and the children of her Good Genes partner to ensure their security.

 

I want to stress again that (most) women do not have some consciously constructed and recognized master plan to enact this cycle and deliberately trap men into it. Rather, the motivations for this behavior and the accompanying social rationales invented to justify it are an unconscious process. For the most part, women are unaware of this dynamic, but are nonetheless subject to it’s influence. For a female of any species to facilitate a methodology for breeding with the best genetic partner she’s able to attract AND to ensure her own and her offspring’s survival with the best provisioning partner; this is an evolutionary jackpot.

 

The Cuckold

On some level of consciousness, men innately sense something is wrong with this situation, though they may not be able to place why they feel it or misunderstand it in the confusion of women’s justifications for it. Or they become frustrated by the social pressures to ‘do the right thing’, are shamed into martyrdom/savior-hood and committed to a feigned responsibility to these conventions. Nevertheless, some see it well enough to steer clear of single mothers, either by prior experience or observing other male cuckolds saddled with the responsibility of raising and providing for – no matter how involved or uninvolved – another man’s successful reproduction efforts with this woman.

 

Men often fall into the role of the proactive or reactive Cuckold. He will never enjoy the same benefits as his mates short term partner(s) to the same degree, in the way of sexual desire or immediacy of it, while at the same time enduring the social pressures of having to provide for this Good Genes father’s progeny. It could be argued that he may contribute minimally to their welfare, but on some level, whether emotional, physical, financial or educational he will contribute some effort for another man’s genetic stock in exchange for a limited form of sexuality/intimacy from the mother. To some degree, (even if only by his presence) he is sharing the parental investment that should be borne by the short term partner. If nothing else, he contributes the time and effort to her he could be better invested in finding a sexual partner with which he could pursue his own genetic imperative by his own methodology.

 

However, needless to say, there is no shortage of men sexually deprived enough to ‘see past’ the long term disadvantages, and not only rewarding, but reinforcing a single mother’s bad decisions (bad from his own interest’s POV) with regard to her breeding selections and schedules in exchange for short term sexual gratification. Furthermore, by reinforcing her behavior thusly, he reinforces the social convention for both men and women. It’s important to bear in mind that in this age women are ultimately, soley responsible for the men they choose to mate with (baring rape of course) AND giving birth to their children. Men do bear responsibility for their actions no doubt, but it is ultimately the decision of the female and her judgement that decides her and her children’s fate

[The Infamous]

yeah that shit is gospel still 

[Zizouz]

Proactive cheating is the single Mommy dilema. This form of ‘cheating’ relies on the woman breeding with a Good Genes male, bearing his children and then abandoning him, or having him abandon her, (again through invented social conventions) in order to find a Good Dad male to provide for her and the children of her Good Genes partner to ensure their security.

 

daaamn. . .

[kurious]

O snap

[Benicio del Toney]

Proactive cheating is the single Mommy dilema. This form of ‘cheating’ relies on the woman breeding with a Good Genes male, bearing his children and then abandoning him, or having him abandon her, (again through invented social conventions) in order to find a Good Dad male to provide for her and the children of her Good Genes partner to ensure their security.

 

daaamn. . .

 

[The Infamous]

This paradox then necessitates that women (and by default men) must subscribe to short term and long term schedules of mating. Short term schedules facilitate breeding with the Good Genes male, while long term breeding is reserved the Good Dad male. This convention and the psycho-social schemas that accompany it are precisely why women will marry the Nice Guy, stable, loyal, (preferably) doctor and still f*ck the pool boy or the cute surfer she met on spring break. In our genetic past, a male with good genes implied an ability to be a good provider, but modern convention has thwarted this, so new social and mental schemas had to be developed for women.

 

 

thats basically why some people loose their house and sleep on their best friends floor 

 

 

. The obvious application of this for women is sharing parental investment with the best possible mate her own genetics allow her to attract and who can provide long term security for her and any potential offspring. Thus women are biologically, psychologically and sociologically the filters of their own reproduction, where as men’s reproductive methodology is to scatter as much of his genetic material as humanly possible to the widest available quantity of sexually available females.He of course has his own criteria for mating selection and determining the best genetic pairing for his reproduction (i.e. she’s gotta be hot),

 

this is why men and women are different 

[Uncle Man]

thanks for the breakdown

 

that model relies on the assertion that a man cant be good looking and a provider these days

 

i would say thats a myth nh

 

also women nowadays cheat for many more reasons than those listed and with nothing to do with their genetic material

 

the reason is more opportunity,social amoralism and no cosmic inhibitors

 

that is why traditional alpha males such as myself and cipher who are hard wired to reproduce, find it impossible to do so with the current crop who lack estrogen qualities (sexual inhibition) whilst mimicking testosterone qualities (high sex drive with multiple partners) . that is some horrific transexual, a mrs doubtfire if you will

 

yr blogger whilst helping to back up my argument is light years behind

 

he/she is telling me why a lonely hwife who married a business guy for money cheats, i know why, everyone does

 

im trying to explain to you why zombys girlfriend will cheat, not because she needs to on a genetic level but simply because she can, she has been rewired as a man and has no cosmic inhibitors

 

thank you and goodnight

[local]

what an unnecessary read

 

how can he over and under analyse at the same time

 

gospel yh

 

talking about centuries old social contrivances but happens to ignore feminism and society's general 180 turn the last century

 

he's jus applied big words to his insecurities, it's all way more social/cultural than anything natural

 

good women can be found, yh the majority have been turned into scum, but that will happen when u let the tv raise ur kids

 

people seem to be going out their way to emasculate males, what do u mean i love for the sake of it n women are sly

 

i'm slyer than females fark awf, if u cant get a girl to fall head over heels for u like they do on tv, dont blame me

[Supermalt]

a lot of gospel here

 

about burnt, fuckboi's.

[Fresh]

If u cant get a girl to fall head over heels for u like they do on tv, dont blame me

 

Interesting perspective, could it actually be the demise of 21st century alpha-male that's allowing for the short-comings of today's woman?

 

Dee hoe be actin up but...

[Fresh]

All I know is, I've been with a woman that has the capacity to cheat, but to my knowledge, didn't. I had everything that's required to make sure that didn't happen.

 

Put another nigga in my shoes however...

[Benicio del Toney]

How you mean you been with a woman that has the capacity to cheat?

[local]

If u cant get a girl to fall head over heels for u like they do on tv, dont blame me

 

Interesting perspective, could it actually be the demise of 21st century alpha-male that's allowing for the short-comings of today's woman?

 

Dee hoe be actin up but...

 

gender roles have grown gradually confused over the past 70 odd years

 

this is the result

 

it aint wrong, it aint right, it just is

 

it is pretty wrong tho

 

but what can we do

 

go japan thats what we'll do

 

on an unrelated note i kno a bird whos been with over 50 cocks in her time (22 yrs young) n shes now happily settled n doesnt stray

 

no she aint my bird

 

fuckin rough on the fella he's 30 odd n he thinks she's only been with 10 people n he's still distraught over it, hes only had a handful himself

 

proper goes off on 1 when hes had a few, para as fuck

[Fearless-Guy]

 

If u cant get a girl to fall head over heels for u like they do on tv, dont blame me

 

Interesting perspective, could it actually be the demise of 21st century alpha-male that's allowing for the short-comings of today's woman?

 

Dee hoe be actin up but...

 

go japan thats what we'll do

 

this tbf, good ol nation where groping is still harmless, jocular fun

[Mame Biram Diouf]

All I know is, I've been with a woman that has the capacity to cheat, but to my knowledge, didn't. I had everything that's required to make sure that didn't happen.

 

Put another nigga in my shoes however...

 

What were the things you had that are required to make her not cheat?

[Fresh]

How you mean you been with a woman that has the capacity to cheat?

She is capable

[Fresh]

All I know is, I've been with a woman that has the capacity to cheat, but to my knowledge, didn't. I had everything that's required to make sure that didn't happen.

Put another nigga in my shoes however...

What were the things you had that are required to make her not cheat?

I won't even be surprised if you don't get it, but anyone who is that guy will...

A man that is superior in a woman's requisite areas will command a certain level of respect.

As I said its not black and white enough to say if you are about it financially intellectually and physically your woman will be loyal. But once your healthier in such typical areas you've already have a minimum level required to trump a whole category of men.

The grey area is your intangible qualities, your personality. The tangible list above is what some guys think is enough, and what others identify in the men that are "about it" in the intangible area I'm about to attempt to describe. I hate to quote a Drake lyrics but "if you ain't got it, you ain't got it the theory is brilliant"

I can't teach you over VIP2 what it takes to make your woman respect you enough to willingly submit herself to you. I can tell you that it's not money looks love or your "good dad factor"

[SLEAZE BALL]

Youre delusional if you think you can stop a woman from freein up her narni

 

Insane

[Fresh]

Can't stop it. Can't control another human being. But you can infinitely decrease the chance.