North Korea

[time_bomb]

yea it looks horrible there but cant help feel it has a propaganda edge to it

[Esquilax]

our propaganda is nothing in comparison to theirs though

[Elementalism]

Vice is low-grade propaganda for the modern online hippie generation - hipster, if you want. 

 

Just found this out :

 

Vice Media’s ‘Relentless Onslaught’ Gets Funded

 

The media business has been forced to cut corners in the past few years, but Vice Media has apparently been enjoying a life of comparative excess, expanding its young audience with information on out-there offerings in the worlds of music, the arts and culture— and now attracting investment dollars.

 

Vice is about to get some multi-million dollar funding in the “eight-figure” range, according to a report today in the New York Times. Although no figures were released, the company has confirmed that those lining up with cash include Tom Freston, the co-founder of MTV; media conglomerate WPP; and boutique investment firm The Raine Group. The three entities will acquire seats on the board, but the company and its board will remain independently owned and controlled, Vice said in a press release issued today. The company also announced a a strategic partnership with talent agency William Morris Endeavor.

 

Vice started out as a small punk magazine in Montreal 17 years ago and has morphed into a multi-layered media business that includes its own music and book labels, websites, TV (it airs the gonzo journalism-style documentary “The Vice Guide to Everything” on MTV) and the operation of a full-service media agency.

 

Started by three friends, Vice Media now employs 750 people in offices in 34 countries and claims some 2,500 contributors. Its media portfolio include Vice magazine, VBS.TV, Vice Music, Vice Films, Vice Books, AdVice, and Virtue Worldwide.

 

Despite its growth, the company apparently hasn't lost its over-the-top persona, with Vice founder Shane Smith describing the new partnership deal as an “unholy alliance that will ensure no other media company will ever stand a chance against Vice’s relentless onslaught.”

 

Vice magazine, seemingly as irreverent as it might have been back in its punk days, can be found online at Viceland.com, where current features include a music review for a new band from London called “Throwing Up” and a story titled “Farmer High” about the amphetamine adderall described as “cocaine for rich people.”

 

Over the last two years, Vice has launched new digital channels through partnerships with Intel Corp. and Dell, including The Creators Project, dedicated to arts and creativity; Motherboard, covering cultural happenings in technology; and, most recently, Noisey, a new music channel. Vice plans to launch even more new channels later this year, targeting news, sports, and independent film and photography.

 

With the new funding, Vice’s game plan is to add to its news and sports divisions and build large-scale operations in emerging markets such as China, India, Brazil and South Korea, the company says. Vice is also in the process of building a network of international studios and creative facilities to produce and distribute content from directors, writers, artists and musicians.

http://upstart.bizjournals.com/companies/media/2011/04/05/vice-media-gets-funding-for-global-expansion-of-youth-directed-content.html?page=all

[Elementalism]

our propaganda is nothing in comparison to theirs though

 

Are you nuts, ours isn't half as see-through, we are just as culturally conditioned. And we can do just about as much to change it as they can.

Our propaganda keeps South Koreans in conscription ready to fight at all times.

[Kurtis]

Vice is low-grade propaganda for the modern online hippie generation - hipster, if you want. 

 

Just found this out :

 

 

Vice Media’s ‘Relentless Onslaught’ Gets Funded

 

The media business has been forced to cut corners in the past few years, but Vice Media has apparently been enjoying a life of comparative excess, expanding its young audience with information on out-there offerings in the worlds of music, the arts and culture— and now attracting investment dollars.

 

Vice is about to get some multi-million dollar funding in the “eight-figure” range, according to a report today in the New York Times. Although no figures were released, the company has confirmed that those lining up with cash include Tom Freston, the co-founder of MTV; media conglomerate WPP; and boutique investment firm The Raine Group. The three entities will acquire seats on the board, but the company and its board will remain independently owned and controlled, Vice said in a press release issued today. The company also announced a a strategic partnership with talent agency William Morris Endeavor.

 

Vice started out as a small punk magazine in Montreal 17 years ago and has morphed into a multi-layered media business that includes its own music and book labels, websites, TV (it airs the gonzo journalism-style documentary “The Vice Guide to Everything” on MTV) and the operation of a full-service media agency.

 

Started by three friends, Vice Media now employs 750 people in offices in 34 countries and claims some 2,500 contributors. Its media portfolio include Vice magazine, VBS.TV, Vice Music, Vice Films, Vice Books, AdVice, and Virtue Worldwide.

 

Despite its growth, the company apparently hasn't lost its over-the-top persona, with Vice founder Shane Smith describing the new partnership deal as an “unholy alliance that will ensure no other media company will ever stand a chance against Vice’s relentless onslaught.”

 

Vice magazine, seemingly as irreverent as it might have been back in its punk days, can be found online at Viceland.com, where current features include a music review for a new band from London called “Throwing Up” and a story titled “Farmer High” about the amphetamine adderall described as “cocaine for rich people.”

 

Over the last two years, Vice has launched new digital channels through partnerships with Intel Corp. and Dell, including The Creators Project, dedicated to arts and creativity; Motherboard, covering cultural happenings in technology; and, most recently, Noisey, a new music channel. Vice plans to launch even more new channels later this year, targeting news, sports, and independent film and photography.

 

With the new funding, Vice’s game plan is to add to its news and sports divisions and build large-scale operations in emerging markets such as China, India, Brazil and South Korea, the company says. Vice is also in the process of building a network of international studios and creative facilities to produce and distribute content from directors, writers, artists and musicians.

http://upstart.bizjournals.com/companies/media/2011/04/05/vice-media-gets-funding-for-global-expansion-of-youth-directed-content.html?page=all

 

is this true Esquilax?

[Esquilax]

our propaganda is nothing in comparison to theirs though

 

Are you nuts, ours isn't half as see-through, we are just as culturally conditioned. And we can do just about as much to change it as they can.

Our propaganda keeps South Koreans in conscription ready to fight at all times.

 

you think the people of NK think it's see through? they don't just see the deifying of the Kim family and go 'yeah yeah lol alright br0s' they actually love these politicians in a big way

 

NK has one of the most literate populations on earth, near enough 99% literacy rate, and all they're reading is shit about how destructive the west it, some truths but some are just bizarre fabrications 

 

the freedom of information on the internet allows us to research and denounce any false claims made on other wordly nations, NK does not have that

[Elementalism]

 

our propaganda is nothing in comparison to theirs though

 

Are you nuts, ours isn't half as see-through, we are just as culturally conditioned. And we can do just about as much to change it as they can.

Our propaganda keeps South Koreans in conscription ready to fight at all times.

 

you think the people of NK think it's see through? they don't just see the deifying of the Kim family and go 'yeah yeah lol alright br0s' they actually love these politicians in a big way

 

NK has one of the most literate populations on earth, near enough 99% literacy rate, and all they're reading is sh*t about how destructive the west it, some truths but some are just bizarre fabrications 

 

the freedom of information on the internet allows us to research and denounce any false claims made on other wordly nations, NK does not have that

 

Mate, we live in a society where it's acceptable to be in the 'PR industry' - there is no difference between Public Relations and Propaganda except the emotional    

weight of the latter term. 

 

Come like you can't see the forest because of the North Korean trees.

 

Just because we have the freedom to research the 'truth', doesn't mean we can hold that truth up to Power and say 'here, change the system'. 

The information age has led to lonely individuals, resentful of the world they've researched, shooting up educational establishments. Can you not see the irony?

[dom dom bullets]

elementalism usually offers decent points but this time youre tripping

[Mr. Martinez]

What I find fascinating about the LSE-BBC North Korea scandal is that vocalised outrage and indignation seem to be erupting from every corner of the LSE public EXCEPT from the group of students who actually went on the trip. Has anyone conducted the research necessary to find out what the entire group of 9 students think? I doubt this, because in that case we would have seen a more detailed, nuanced picture painted of this event. I find it precocious and frankly a little absurd to let the complaints of just two of the involved students - LEGITIMATE complaints though they are - speak for the remaining 7. As a result of this, the bulk of the public's knowledge about the event is mired in misinformation and half-truths. As one of the students who participated in this trip, I don't feel comfortable publicly addressing the facts or details of this scandal at the moment, but I urge LSE students to consider that they cannot possibly be familiar with all the facts of the case, and moreover LSE probably had reason to release the version of the story that it did. Please recognise that you cannot jump on the bandwagon of personal and institutional outrage until the details of this incident - which are presently totally lacking in transparency - become clear to the public.'

He's on point this time as well

only need to read that to realise it

[dom dom bullets]

We don't believe Cameron was born under a double rainbow, that's the difference

[Esquilax]

 

 

our propaganda is nothing in comparison to theirs though

 

Are you nuts, ours isn't half as see-through, we are just as culturally conditioned. And we can do just about as much to change it as they can.

Our propaganda keeps South Koreans in conscription ready to fight at all times.

 

you think the people of NK think it's see through? they don't just see the deifying of the Kim family and go 'yeah yeah lol alright br0s' they actually love these politicians in a big way

 

NK has one of the most literate populations on earth, near enough 99% literacy rate, and all they're reading is sh*t about how destructive the west it, some truths but some are just bizarre fabrications 

 

the freedom of information on the internet allows us to research and denounce any false claims made on other wordly nations, NK does not have that

 

Mate, we live in a society where it's acceptable to be in the 'PR industry' - there is no difference between Public Relations and Propaganda except the emotional    

weight of the latter term. 

 

Come like you can't see the forest because of the North Korean trees.

 

Just because we have the freedom to research the 'truth', doesn't mean we can hold that truth up to Power and say 'here, change the system'. 

The information age has led to lonely individuals, resentful of the world they've researched, shooting up educational establishments. Can you not see the irony?

 

in which nation on planet earth can a body of citizens hold a 'truth' up to an established power and demand that the system is changed on the back of it? that seems a naively utopian viewpoint 

 

people who shoot up schools dont do it because they're tired of the propaganda machine, they do it cuz they're mentally unhinged psychopaths with delusional motives/ history of abuse or mental issues 

 

PR is a sales technique, you have a product and it needs to be promoted to the relevant parties, whether that's a song or burger or a celebrity or a politician 

 

just because we cannot change states which are clearly wrong, governmental or otherwise, does not mean that the propaganda behind it is more powerful or frightening than that of a totalitarian state of impoverished fearful citizens ruled by a cult of personality 

 

i dont see how the comparison can be made

[dom dom bullets]

i dont see how the comparison can be made

[Mr. Martinez]

 call it relative brainwashing if you like

[dom dom bullets]

we have the diet coke of brainwashing

[dub]

panda pops if you will

[Elementalism]

What I find fascinating about the LSE-BBC North Korea scandal is that vocalised outrage and indignation seem to be erupting from every corner of the LSE public EXCEPT from the group of students who actually went on the trip. Has anyone conducted the research necessary to find out what the entire group of 9 students think? I doubt this, because in that case we would have seen a more detailed, nuanced picture painted of this event. I find it precocious and frankly a little absurd to let the complaints of just two of the involved students - LEGITIMATE complaints though they are - speak for the remaining 7. As a result of this, the bulk of the public's knowledge about the event is mired in misinformation and half-truths. As one of the students who participated in this trip, I don't feel comfortable publicly addressing the facts or details of this scandal at the moment, but I urge LSE students to consider that they cannot possibly be familiar with all the facts of the case, and moreover LSE probably had reason to release the version of the story that it did. Please recognise that you cannot jump on the bandwagon of personal and institutional outrage until the details of this incident - which are presently totally lacking in transparency - become clear to the public.'

He's on point this time as well

only need to read that to realise it

 

Thank you.

 

/

 

Esqui you have no clue.

 

Look up Edward Bernays.

[Esquilax]

the mere fact that we can recognise said brainwashing is evidence of our superior freedoms from the shackles of corporate and political propaganda 

[Mr. Martinez]

No the FACT we sit here and absorb it same way, is testament to what man like Barneys' introduced. aka 'pr'.

[Elementalism]

the mere fact that we can recognise said brainwashing is evidence of our superior freedoms from the shackles of corporate and political propaganda 

 

You really need to watch the Century of the Self, and KNOW what you're on about, because you and your pos-buddy dom dom are lost.

[dom dom bullets]

PC gone undercover as some intellectual troll

[Elementalism]

 

Ed:

 

This is what happens when Vice readers see the images that they do.

[Kurtis]

the mere fact that we can recognise said brainwashing is evidence of our superior freedoms from the shackles of corporate and political propaganda 

 

this is right though

[Mr. Martinez]

the way man came with an exact video explanation of why esqui is wrong.

 

oh dear.

[dom dom bullets]

it's still not the same imo