UKIP

[Thun]

lets be honest, they only winning because their stating they will kick foreigners out , get out of eu, people are NOW job hungry because of the new benefit cuts. hypothetically if they get into power , they won't implement  those changes mentioned during campaign, if uk leaves  eu, american investment will drop because the states uses the uk as the door to the eu.  UK business depends on eu trade heavily, 

 

UKIP is only talking about what's popular with the mob , they may win city council seats , but i highly doubt they will run this country , if it happens , they won't be any different from previous parties 

 

They keep using the excuse if we pull out of Europe people will stop trading with us

 

Thats a silly excuse made up by Tories and Labour as you think Mercedes will stop sending cars over because we aint in the EU

 

American investment wont change as another excuse to scare people not to pull out

[Supermalt]

 

Green Party >>>  Lib Dems >> Labour >>>>> UKIP/BNP/Tories

 

 

Man said Green Party you know. Guy would get taxed for breathing. Some backwards party.

 

>>We would:

• Reintroduce the fuel duty escalator,

raising fuel duty by 8% per year.This will

raise £2.2bn in 2010 rising to £10bn by

2013. In the longer run we would introduce

a system of domestic carbon quotas.

• Modify the regime for Corporation Tax

Capital allowances so that the allowances are

only available for investment in sustainable

technologies, raising £7bn in 2010 rising to

£10bn by 2013.

• Introduce VAT and fuel duty on aviation,

raising £7bn in 2010 and £10bn by 2013.

• Increase the rates for the Climate Change

Levy and for Landfill Tax,raising £300m.

• End the zero-rating of VAT on new

dwellings, putting them on a level with

conversions and renovations of existing

dwellings, raising £5bn in 2010 and

£7.5bn by 2013.

• Tax plastic bags and other unnecessary

packaging,raising perhaps £1bn by 2013.

• Levy eco-taxes on non-renewables or

pollutants, in particular pesticides, organochlorines, nitrogen and artificial

fertilisers and phosphates.

• Introduce new taxes on use of water by

businesses and waste heat from power

stations, raising £3bn by 2013.

• Replace vehicle excise duty by a new

graduated purchase tax on vehicles that heavily

penalises over-sized or over-powered vehicles.

Overall this would be tax neutral.

• Make tax concessions on savings, such as

ISAs, only available for investment in

sustainable technologies,raising £1.8bn.

• No longer offer zero VAT rating to

financial services and betting duties, which

are of limited value to the real economy,

raising £5.6bn by 2013.

• Gradually increase alcohol and tobacco

taxes by about 50% to match anticipated

increases in expenditures on the NHS, raising

£1.4bn in 2010 rising to £5.6bn by 2013.

 

Sorry must have missed that part in their Manifesto

 

Care to point it out to me Justin?

 

 

might aswell be, tax everything create nothing. 

 

Why are you trying to increase the cost of my life bro

 

economy would just die faster with these bastards

 

policies based off feelings and not logic

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Ok Thun

 

Whats their views and policies on education?

 

Whats their views and policies on healthcare?

 

Whats their views and policies on use of non-renewable energy?

 

Whats their views and policies on foreign policy?

 

Whats their views and policies on tax havens/avoidance?

 

Whats their views and policies on fixing the economy?

 

Whats their views and policies on investing back into manufacturing in the UK?

 

Whats their views and policies on the enviroment?

 

All you have posted videos about is getting us out of the EU

 

What countries does he want us to increase our exports too?

 

What type of exports?

 

What goals by what years?

 

??

 

Or is he just using the leave EU rhetoric to keep himself in a job and people like you lap it up without knowing anything else the party offers

 

They are a reactionary group, nothing more

[Supermalt]

They are a reactionary group, nothing more

 

same guy who posted green party

[Mame Biram Diouf]

 

 

Green Party >>>  Lib Dems >> Labour >>>>> UKIP/BNP/Tories

 

 

Man said Green Party you know. Guy would get taxed for breathing. Some backwards party.

 

We would:

• Reintroduce the fuel duty escalator,

raising fuel duty by 8% per year.This will

raise £2.2bn in 2010 rising to £10bn by

2013. In the longer run we would introduce

a system of domestic carbon quotas.

• Modify the regime for Corporation Tax

Capital allowances so that the allowances are

only available for investment in sustainable

technologies, raising £7bn in 2010 rising to

£10bn by 2013.

• Introduce VAT and fuel duty on aviation,

raising £7bn in 2010 and £10bn by 2013.

• Increase the rates for the Climate Change

Levy and for Landfill Tax,raising £300m.

• End the zero-rating of VAT on new

dwellings, putting them on a level with

conversions and renovations of existing

dwellings, raising £5bn in 2010 and

£7.5bn by 2013.

• Tax plastic bags and other unnecessary

packaging,raising perhaps £1bn by 2013.

• Levy eco-taxes on non-renewables or

pollutants, in particular pesticides, organochlorines, nitrogen and artificial

fertilisers and phosphates.

• Introduce new taxes on use of water by

businesses and waste heat from power

stations, raising £3bn by 2013.

• Replace vehicle excise duty by a new

graduated purchase tax on vehicles that heavily

penalises over-sized or over-powered vehicles.

Overall this would be tax neutral.

• Make tax concessions on savings, such as

ISAs, only available for investment in

sustainable technologies,raising £1.8bn.

• No longer offer zero VAT rating to

financial services and betting duties, which

are of limited value to the real economy,

raising £5.6bn by 2013.

• Gradually increase alcohol and tobacco

taxes by about 50% to match anticipated

increases in expenditures on the NHS, raising

£1.4bn in 2010 rising to £5.6bn by

2013.

 

Sorry must have missed that part in their Manifesto

 

Care to point it out to me Justin?

 

might aswell be

 

Why are you trying to increase the cost my life bro

 

economy would just die faster with these bastards

 

policies based off feelings and not logic

 

 

To reduce the health risks to our children and grandchildren

 

Health is not something you can put a price on, especially when it comes to family

 

We take from nature but no not give out

 

Only humans are ignorant enough to preach androcentrism 

 

And you only highlighted the parts that make your post look better

 

1.Taxing businesses for high water use - not me or you

 

2.Taxing heavy vehicle users more because of the increased damages they do to the environment, if you can afford the car you can afford giving back to nature

 

etc

[Mame Biram Diouf]

They are a reactionary group, nothing more

 

same guy who posted green party

 

Environment has been here before man and will be here after man

 

When did we join the EU?

 

....

[Thun]

Ok Thun

 

Whats their views and policies on education?

 

Whats their views and policies on healthcare?

 

Whats their views and policies on use of non-renewable energy?

 

Whats their views and policies on foreign policy?

 

Whats their views and policies on tax havens/avoidance?

 

Whats their views and policies on fixing the economy?

 

Whats their views and policies on investing back into manufacturing in the UK?

 

Whats their views and policies on the enviroment?

 

All you have posted videos about is getting us out of the EU

 

What countries does he want us to increase our exports too?

 

What type of exports?

 

What goals by what years?

 

??

 

Or is he just using the leave EU rhetoric to keep himself in a job and people like you lap it up without knowing anything else the party offers

 

They are a reactionary group, nothing more

 

http://bit.ly/135J1hF

 

Give your feedback to anything you disagree with

 

Your trying to debate me you about UKIP but know nothing about there policies 

 

Your supporting a party that wants to heap bare taxes on people over myths made up by Al Gore and phony scientists 

[Sole]

Thun: A sensationalist with no substance

Coming soon to a topic near you

Got more respect for people that vote Labour or Tories then some crazy hippie party wanting you to be taxed more for the climate changing

Your an under the radar guy with no relevance on here tbh

When you first joined you and profit were my cheerleaders until I had to distance myself from you wrong uns

Care to back this up with some proof?

Or is it like the rest of your posts

Nonsense?

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Ok Thun

 

Whats their views and policies on education?

 

Whats their views and policies on healthcare?

 

Whats their views and policies on use of non-renewable energy?

 

Whats their views and policies on foreign policy?

 

Whats their views and policies on tax havens/avoidance?

 

Whats their views and policies on fixing the economy?

 

Whats their views and policies on investing back into manufacturing in the UK?

 

Whats their views and policies on the enviroment?

 

All you have posted videos about is getting us out of the EU

 

What countries does he want us to increase our exports too?

 

What type of exports?

 

What goals by what years?

 

??

 

Or is he just using the leave EU rhetoric to keep himself in a job and people like you lap it up without knowing anything else the party offers

 

They are a reactionary group, nothing more

 

http://bit.ly/135J1hF

 

Give your feedback to anything you disagree with

 

Your trying to debate me you about UKIP but know nothing about there policies 

 

Your supporting a party that wants to heap bare taxes on people over myths made up by Al Gore and phony scientists 

 

So basically as usual you post something you know nothing about?

 

''Heap bare taxes on people over myths made up''

 

Sorry can you please translate this and present factual evidence?

 

Same Green Party whose one of their key policies after being Green is to reduce inequalities between people, and have loads of ideas on doing so 

 

For example;

 

Reform inheritance tax,so that the level

of taxation depends on the wealth of the

recipient rather than that of the deceased,

raising £3bn by 2013.This will encourage

people to distribute their property widely

  

• Increase the main rate of Corporation Tax

from 28% back to 30% and reduce the small

firms rate back to 20%, altogether raising

£1.4bn.

 

Help lower earners by raising the lower

National Insurance limit to the personal

allowance rate (which is £6,475 a year,

or £124.52 a week), costing £3.9bn.

 

• Reform Council Tax by making people in

more expensive houses pay more and those

in smaller ones less, adding an additional

band at the top for the biggest houses,

raising £1.7bn.

 

Minority ethnic groups, lone parents, and

people without formal qualifications have an

unemployment rate of about double that for

the total working-age population.The richest

1 per cent of households own more than 20

per cent of Britain’s wealth.The gross

inequalities continue throughout life, with

around 25 per cent of pensioners living in

poverty, and significant disparities in life

expectancy, particularly among men, associated

with income. And inequality has risen in

recent years, most steeply under Mrs

Thatcher’s Conservatives since 1979, before

declining a little in the early years of New

Labour, only to rise again in recent years.

Inequality is not just wrong in itself. It makes

us ill, causes us to die earlier, raises crime

levels, depresses educational achievement, and

creates stress and mental illness. New research

has shown that more equal societies do better,

and that equality – rather than simple average

wealth or even lack of poverty – is the main

route to a better society for everyone, rich

and poor.

 

See that Thun

 

Using factual things to back up what I am saying

[Supermalt]

 

Thun: A sensationalist with no substance

Coming soon to a topic near you

Got more respect for people that vote Labour or Tories then some crazy hippie party wanting you to be taxed more for the climate changing

Your an under the radar guy with no relevance on here tbh

When you first joined you and profit were my cheerleaders until I had to distance myself from you wrong uns

Care to back this up with some proof?

Or is it like the rest of your posts

Nonsense?

 

Yo

 

Just allow it man

[cambridgebanteer]

I dunno what it is about the Internet it has some demonic power, I've basically lost 2 of my closest bredrins to this conspiracy kook shit, can't even talk to them guys any more without them ranting about zionists and the mainstream media (MSM) without having some next baseless theories from dubious websites being regurgitated at you, they have been well and truly brain washed by it. Does my nut

[Sole]

di yo

[Thun]

 

Ok Thun

 

Whats their views and policies on education?

 

Whats their views and policies on healthcare?

 

Whats their views and policies on use of non-renewable energy?

 

Whats their views and policies on foreign policy?

 

Whats their views and policies on tax havens/avoidance?

 

Whats their views and policies on fixing the economy?

 

Whats their views and policies on investing back into manufacturing in the UK?

 

Whats their views and policies on the enviroment?

 

All you have posted videos about is getting us out of the EU

 

What countries does he want us to increase our exports too?

 

What type of exports?

 

What goals by what years?

 

??

 

Or is he just using the leave EU rhetoric to keep himself in a job and people like you lap it up without knowing anything else the party offers

 

They are a reactionary group, nothing more

 

http://bit.ly/135J1hF

 

Give your feedback to anything you disagree with

 

Your trying to debate me you about UKIP but know nothing about there policies 

 

Your supporting a party that wants to heap bare taxes on people over myths made up by Al Gore and phony scientists 

 

So basically as usual you post something you know nothing about?

 

''Heap bare taxes on people over myths made up''

 

Sorry can you please translate this and present factual evidence?

 

Same Green Party whose one of their key policies after being Green is to reduce inequalities between people, and have loads of ideas on doing so 

 

For example;

 

>Reform inheritance tax,so that the level

of taxation depends on the wealth of the

recipient rather than that of the deceased,

raising £3bn by 2013.This will encourage

people to distribute their property widely

  

• Increase the main rate of Corporation Tax

from 28% back to 30% and reduce the small

firms rate back to 20%, altogether raising

£1.4bn.

 

Help lower earners by raising the lower

National Insurance limit to the personal

allowance rate (which is £6,475 a year,

or £124.52 a week), costing £3.9bn.

 

• Reform Council Tax by making people in

more expensive houses pay more and those

in smaller ones less, adding an additional

band at the top for the biggest houses,

raising £1.7bn.

 

Minority ethnic groups, lone parents, and

people without formal qualifications have an

unemployment rate of about double that for

the total working-age population.The richest

1 per cent of households own more than 20

per cent of Britain’s wealth.The gross

inequalities continue throughout life, with

around 25 per cent of pensioners living in

poverty, and significant disparities in life

expectancy, particularly among men, associated

with income. And inequality has risen in

recent years, most steeply under Mrs

Thatcher’s Conservatives since 1979, before

declining a little in the early years of New

Labour, only to rise again in recent years.

Inequality is not just wrong in itself. It makes

us ill, causes us to die earlier, raises crime

levels, depresses educational achievement, and

creates stress and mental illness. New research

has shown that more equal societies do better,

and that equality – rather than simple average

wealth or even lack of poverty – is the main

route to a better society for everyone, rich

and poor.

 

See that Thun

 

Using factual things to back up what I am saying

 

 

Well done, you can copy and paste

 

Not going to post the whole manifesto on here, go read it as you dont seem to know much about UKIP but are against them

 

You denying they dont support the climate change policy which has been proven a myth

[Mame Biram Diouf]

[Sole]

Can never get a straight answer out this c*nt.

[Thun]

I dunno what it is about the Internet it has some demonic power, I've basically lost 2 of my closest bredrins to this conspiracy kook sh*t, can't even talk to them guys any more without them ranting about zionists and the mainstream media (MSM) without having some next baseless theories from dubious websites being regurgitated at you, they have been well and truly brain washed by it. Does my nut

 

Your bredrins must be fraggles tbh

[Gambino]

Pos for the Topic. Been promoting Farage and UKIP to everyone I know for a while now. Granted most don't give a shit about Politics. Manchester is unfortunately massively dominated by Labour.

 

Farage comes across as a guy with integrity and beliefs. It's definitely worth a change anyways as Cons/Libs and Labour are a fucking joke.

 

All this constant resorting to UKIP as being loonies and racists shows they are running scared. I see The Suns sly little input today, big picture of UKIP celebrations but added in an image of that BNP woman to go along with it.

[Thun]

4 pages on and still unable to state why UKIP polices are wrong 

[Mame Biram Diouf]

• Make sentences mean what they say – life must mean life.

• Double prison places to enforce zero tolerance on crime.

• Repeal the Human Rights Act to end abuses by convicted criminals and illegal immigrants.

• Free the police force from the straitjacket of political correctness and ‘targets’.

 

Our traditional values have been undermined.  Children are taught to be ashamed of our past.  Multiculturalism has split our society.  

 

End the ban on smoking in allocated rooms in public houses, clubs and hotels.

 

• Freeze permanent immigration for 5 years. Immigrants must be fluent in English, 

•  increased defence spending 

 

Just some of there stupid policies/views

 

As I said all rhetoric and no reality

[Gambino]

Sound good to me.

[time_bomb]

funny just read that farages name has arabic origin, faradj is a common moroccan jewish surname.

[cambridgebanteer]

I'm guessing if I head on over to Globalresearch.ca they are gona have a long article with a list of reasons about why ukip are so good, and they will by sheer coincide almost exactly match up to the reasons you post here

[Thun]

• Make sentences mean what they say – life must mean life.

• Double prison places to enforce zero tolerance on crime.

• Repeal the Human Rights Act to end abuses by convicted criminals and illegal immigrants.

• Free the police force from the straitjacket of political correctness and ‘targets’.

 

>Our traditional values have been undermined.  Children are taught to be ashamed of our past.  Multiculturalism has split our society.  

 

End the ban on smoking in allocated rooms in public houses, clubs and hotels.

 

• Freeze permanent immigration for 5 years. Immigrants must be fluent in English, 

•  increased defence spending 

 

Just some of there stupid policies/views

 

As I said all rhetoric and no reality

 

 

Looks pretty good to me 

 

Only one a bit dubious about is 'Double prison places to enforce zero tolerance on crime'

 

Depends what type of crimes they mean but not going to agree with every point on there manifesto naturally

[Thun]

I'm guessing if I head on over to Globalresearch.ca they are gona have a long article with a list of reasons about why ukip are so good, and they will by sheer coincide almost exactly match up to the reasons you post here

 

Why dont you post up why UKIP are so bad

[Da Luv Doc]

They are a reactionary group, nothing more

 

same guy who posted green party

 

Get me.