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Is that typical? Or is it more a form of disassociation because the guy is of west African heritage?

 

typical as when they came in the 80s/70s they thought the path to wealth and peace here was to fully submit there minds and body - which hasn't worked, so their first instinct is to follow whatevers being said to the T. Obviously when black people get a hold of something they are the biggest evangelists. 

 

and ye disassociation because this guy looks like their son or nephew, and if someone asks where are u from u cant say nigeria with that pride post this.

 

the two guys were born here, dont know why the media keep saying nigerian heritage but will suffocate mo fariah in the british flag.

 

this is home grown. deal with it.

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Is that typical? Or is it more a form of disassociation because the guy is of west African heritage?

typical as when they came in the 80s/70s they thought the path to wealth and peace here was to fully submit there minds and body - which hasn't worked, so their first instinct is to follow whatevers being said to the T. Obviously when black people get a hold of something they are the biggest evangelists.

and ye disassociation because this guy looks like their son or nephew, and if someone asks where are u from u cant say nigeria with that pride post this.

the two guys were born here, dont know why the media keep saying nigerian heritage but will suffocate mo fariah in the british flag.

this is home grown. deal with it.

Your British when you do something positive for them

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who are the original muslims? Heard this mentioned b4

 

 & are black muslims welcomed at mosque or is it hostile. Im intrigued still

mosque is probably the most diverse place of worship hands down

 

pray side by side with people from all races 

 

Yet once one steps their foot outside the mosque ,blacks think of asians as smelly pakis and asians think of blacks as niggers that will never be allowed anywhere near their precious daughters

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who are the original muslims? Heard this mentioned b4

 

 & are black muslims welcomed at mosque or is it hostile. Im intrigued still

 

the first muslims were mainly quraish which is an arab tribe, there was a really famous companian called bilal who was black

 

when muslims were being persecuted the prophet saw send them to abbysinia which is modern day ethiopia for asylum

 

so muslims were in africa before any other place outside mecca

 

yh mosques are maybe the most racially integrated place

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who are the original muslims? Heard this mentioned b4

 

 & are black muslims welcomed at mosque or is it hostile. Im intrigued still

mosque is probably the most diverse place of worship hands down

 

pray side by side with people from all races 

 

Yet once one steps their foot outside the mosque ,blacks think of asians as smelly pakis and asians think of blacks as niggers that will never be allowed anywhere near their precious daughters

yeah cos the ummah aint perfect but islam is in a place of worship everyone are brothers. thats never gona change tho people being racist to each other 

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 i like the way christianity tells us to be cool outside the church as well

 

 

 

swear if u talk to some black olders about this there even worse than the EDL etc.

 


Not even just  black,its  more so the asians . Been listening to lbc quite a bit  since this happened and im hearing bare apologists .

 

so u should

 

theres nothing valid about what these losers did

 

im jumping on islam out if i dont hear major denouncement from prominent muslims

 

since i dnt watch the media u lot will have to update

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he should buss case cos the word terrorism has been used in different ways/to sway opinion?

 

 

mate u clearly didnt read all of the article 

 

he should buss case because the soldier, it can be argued is a casualty of war and not a murder victim

 

 

for all the arguing and posting and talking about analytical thinkin u claim to do u dnt show much evidence of that.

 

 

same for alot of u guys

 

technically then it would be treason as the assailants were British citizens -"levying war against the crown, being adherent to enemies of the crown"

 

and yes the term terrorism should probably be reserved for when non-combatants/civilians are specifically targeted.

 

I agree some perspective is required, over 1.5 million people no longer exist due to the recent conflicts in the middle east, the majority of these deaths were non-combatants who had the misfortune of living in Pipelineistan. Not to mention the trillions stolen from the tax payer to fund this misadventure, none of us are benefiting from this, war is the most wasteful, immoral activity we can participate in.

 

the British state is immoral, violent political Islam is immoral. If you condone wars of aggression or butchering people in the street you're immoral.

No terrorism is violence of a political nature perpetrated by non-state actors. 

 

That is a widely accepted definition, we need an objective definition but I find that one problematic personally. What are your thoughts on the terms "state terrorism" and "war on terror"?  

 

Only states have a monopoly of the use of force. 

 

Which is why statism is immoral and irrational.

 

It's unlikely that the US would have ever opened Guantanamo Bay for soldiers fighting under the auspices of state. For example they had to treat Iraqi POWS  well under the Geneva Convention. d*ck Cheney et. al. argued  (wrongly in my opinion) that as islamists were not fighting for a state, they should be termed enemy combatants and not be afforded the protections given under the Geneva convention.

 

what about mercenaries?

 

not sure if international law is worth the paper its written on, the US is allowed to conduct wars of aggression and get away with it.

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