Does Rap Music Influence Violence?

[Don Crack]

Three 'bored' teens who 'gunned down Australian baseball star' were influenced by ultra-violent rapper Chief Keef, police believe

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2400253/Chris-Lane-shooting-teens-killed-Australian-student-influenced-ultra-violent-rapper-Chief-Keef.html

[The Somalian]

It's just a weak excuse same as blaming films, and video games. If these are actual contributing factors we need to look at society as a whole

[dom dom bullets]

Of course it has an effect on some people to some degree, although it is far from the route cause.

[cambridgebanteer]

look at keef's eyes in that photo of him, some silent hill shit, guy has no soul

[Creed Diskenth]

look at keef's eyes in that photo of him, some silent hill shit, guy has no soul

 

 

Guy is fucked

[Thizz]

I've listened to hardcore gangster rap since the age of 12/13.

 

I haven't killed anybody yet.

[dom dom bullets]

I've listened to hardcore gangster rap since the age of 12/13.

 

I haven't killed anybody yet.

 

That doesn't mean it has absolutely no influence, for example in some situations it might have subconsciously made you react a tad more aggressively than you would have if you didn't listen to it.

[Yuri]

These kids should get the gas chamber.

[PascalMoriarty]

Can't say it doesn't. Circa 2007-2008 when "Talking the hardest" was the new age "Pow", you could feel the shift in energy when that came on. Man would enter the rave as Urkel, hear that tune and morph into Frank Lucas. Its insane. 

[darkman]

You can't tell me you don't feel rage when you listen to Young Spray and the like. On the other side of the coin listening to something like this will put you in a good mood

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKSmskT3fPQ

 

The music you listen to will have a huge bearing on your personality

 

 

 

 

[local]

yeeee meng i am so happy after that shit

 

might skip to the post office

[Woodpecker]

Might just skip everywhere

[local]

this is now the happy song fred

 

any more lads

[The Somalian]

I still think it is a weak excuse so say 110 years ago when crime was worse in this country. What influence would you blame for violent killings?

 

Irish, Italian gangsters back in the day in states who would carry out killings back then what would influence will you blame for their violent killings?

 

they never had violent gangster rap music, games, films but sh*t still went down.

If anything these things have been a benefit for society.

 

Also find it amazing that people want to focus on the music rather than how did a child manage tp get a lethal weapon so easily?

[Benicio del Toney]

I remember an incident of road rage I had years back, I think I was listening to Dipset, real loud though.

 

After it happened I thought about the whole situation for a few minutes and just thought wow, this ting had me hyped.

 

Defo can influence behaviour.

 

I try now not to listen to any monkey rap whilst I'm driving, noticed Classical keeps me more calm.

[Gambino]

Don't even know what the stats are but I've always got the impression that crimes worse now than it was in the early 1900's. See nice areas turn to shit these days but never shit areas turning nice.

[dom dom bullets]

Don't even know what the stats are but I've always got the impression that crimes worse now than it was in the early 1900's. See nice areas turn to sh*t these days but never sh*t areas turning nice.

 

Your impression is completely wrong

[local]

I still think it is a weak excuse so say 110 years ago when crime was worse in this country. What influence would you blame for violent killings?

 

why do you think crime was 'way worse'?

 

crime is a bit of a silly measuring stick, aren't we talking about violence? and about those that listen to rap, not the entire country

 

a quick google search shows ur wrong, indictable offences, homicides and prison population per population has all increased to fuck since 1900, there was more than double homicides per pop at the end of the 90s compared to the 60s

 

but as i said, it's a stupid argument to make anyway, even if it was right

[local]

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons/lib/research/rp99/rp99-111.pdf

 

source

[Ari Gold]

Bang bang

[The Somalian]

You would then have to take in account of reported crime, advances in policing techniques, a more resourceful police force, advances in technology for a rising rate of inmates . I am just making the point that it is weak to blame using rap music as a primary source for violent crime. You need to look at society and not a source of entertainment which, rap, games, films are. Like I already said why is there not being a bigger fuss made about how these children managed to have access to such weapons. They clearly have not been integrated in society and you can not lay the blame at rap. Like I said what was the factor what people blamed on previous generations and violent crime?

[dom dom bullets]

Haven't chekced the source but I probably got my timeline fucked up, I know violent crimes have been going down since day, I'm sure not long before the turn of the 20th century the rate would be as high or higher than now and would increase the further you go back

[dom dom bullets]

And dinky I don't think anyone is saying it's primary factor of violent crime, but it's definitely influential and could at time play the catalyst. 

[The Somalian]

I hear that but if that can be influential anything can then.

Like that guy who lost money in the bookies so he push someone in the train tracks at highbury and Islington and the person died (would you say the bookies was influential and take some blame in the death?)

or Someone who watches a football match and their team loses and ends up knifing a guy outside a pub, is the match an influence and should take part of the blame?

Guy has an argument with his wife he hits and she falls down the stairs and dies was she influential in her own demise?

[Gambino]

I've never watched a Football match or went into a bookies and had anyone behind the counter glorify Guns and Violence to me.