cfc Barkley /#PLHype

[Thizz]

Toure has more to his game so maybe its unfair to compare to busquets.

 

What cause he can score goals?

 

Would have Busquests over Yaya 9 days out of 10

[O Fenomeno]

Toure has more to his game so maybe its unfair to compare to busquets.

Toure looks another level in the league

Very average in Europe

SNM

[O Fenomeno]

Yaya CM over busquets

nah never. Busquets is a beast. They will probably write a whole book on him when he retires

He is too good

Has overtaken Mak in that position

[i5_PRODUCER]

Busi is an intelligent player no doubt but there are players in world footbal in CM/CDM who can make an impact even if the team isnt playing well.

 

Toure/Vidal these players can do what busi does and also take it a notch up and drive.Busi needs a particular style around him to excel

[O Fenomeno]

They score more goals than him

Tactically and Technically he is superior

Busquets all day every day

[The Infamous]

Yaya CM over busquets

nah never. Busquets is a beast. They will probably write a whole book on him when he retires

He is too good

Has overtaken Mak in that position

exactly. makalele done it but busquets really pioneered his own thing

Hes the reason why most big teams now dont really see the need for a makalele anymore

[darkman]

Busquets plays a vital role for the system his country and club adopt. But best CM in the world? I think not

[Thizz]

Busquets plays a vital role for the system his country and club adopt. But best CM in the world? I think not

 

Who's your pick?

[darkman]

Alonso is better

[Michel Kane]

Darkman...

I'm not sure what your definition of world class is so I won't get into debate but for myself, a world class is the best of the best. The creme de la creme. Barkley has not shown enough thus far in the space of less than a YEAR to warrant that. No player irrespective of nationality deserves that.

Not every player develops along the same continuum so to automatically assume because player A wasn't as good at player B's age & eventually did get to be WC, the same will happen for player B is wrong.

[O Fenomeno]

There are so many types of CM

Deep line(Pirlo,Xabi)

Enforcer(Busquets,Martinez)

Box to Box(Yaya,Vidal,Gundogan)

Creative CM(Xavi,Iniesta,Schweni)

[Michel Kane]

It's about to be 2014 and it's still not universally accepted Busquets is the undisputed #1 defensive central midfielder in the world? Sweet mother of God.

Keep in mind that world XI is actually a balanced one in terms of players & roles.

[Michel Kane]

There are so many types of CMDeep line(Pirlo,Xabi)Enforcer(Busquets,Martinez)Box to Box(Yaya,Vidal,Gundogan)Creative CM(Xavi,Iniesta,Schweni)

Lol, they don't get it.

That world XI follows a formation which is the most widely used in elite football.

Double pivots are the standard. Enforcer + Deep-lying playmakers are what tend to work. Busquets & Schweni were the best performers in their respective roles in 2013 even though they at times become hybrids of their roles.

[Michel Kane]

Valdes is never the best keeper in the world

He's been the best keeper of 2013. Carried that title-winning Barca defence & Spain defence on occasion without the luxury of a great defensive unit like Courtois at Atletio or Neuer at Bayern.

[darkman]

Darkman...

I'm not sure what your definition of world class is so I won't get into debate but for myself, a world class is the best of the best. The creme de la creme. Barkley has not shown enough thus far in the space of less than a YEAR to warrant that. No player irrespective of nationality deserves that.

Not every player develops along the same continuum so to automatically assume because player A wasn't as good at player B's age & eventually did get to be WC, the same will happen for player B is wrong.

 

A key attribute of being world class is ability. That is something that you have or don't and has nothing to do with how long he's being playing . In my opinion Barkely has the ability to be World Class.

[O Fenomeno]

There are so many types of CMDeep line(Pirlo,Xabi)Enforcer(Busquets,Martinez)Box to Box(Yaya,Vidal,Gundogan)Creative CM(Xavi,Iniesta,Schweni)

Lol, they don't get it.

That world XI follows a formation which is the most widely used in elite football.

Double pivots are the standard. Enforcer + Deep-lying playmakers are what tend to work. Busquets & Schweni were the best performers in their respective roles in 2013 even though they at times become hybrids of their roles.

+1

[Michel Kane]

Yeah Mert is in great form atm. suarez over lewandowski as well

We know he's capable but Lewandowski excelled in Europe whilst Suarez didn't, unfair if you put him above the former.

[Michel Kane]

Lol, cool Darkman.

 

[darkman]

Valdes is never the best keeper in the world

He's been the best keeper of 2013. Carried that title-winning Barca defence & Spain defence on occasion without the luxury of a great defensive unit like Courtois at Atletio or Neuer at Bayern.

 

A defensive unit just doesn't mean defenders. Defense starts at the front, especially in a team like Barca. They dominate possession more time.

 

Why do you think someone like Mascherano can get away with playing as a defender?

 

Playing in such a great team has made people like Pique, Masch and Valdes look better than they actually are

[Michel Kane]

 

Honestly, if you make a World XI for 2013, a PL player isn't on there. With the most used formation - 4-2-3-1

GK: Valdes

RB: Lahm

LB: Alaba

CB: Thiago Silva and .... (definitely not a CB playing in the PL)

CM's: Schweinsteger & Busquets

AM: Messi

WF: Ronaldo & Ribery

CF: Ibrahimovic or Lewandowski

On form right now I would have Mertesacker in there

Going by form yeah?

Dante>>Any CB in world football

 

In 2013, on performances across every stage, I'd have Dante before Mertersacker too.

 

Miranda too maybe.

[O Fenomeno]

Apart from Buffon there isn't a keeper better than Valdes

Consistency/match winning saves

[O Fenomeno]

Honestly, if you make a World XI for 2013, a PL player isn't on there. With the most used formation - 4-2-3-1

GK: Valdes

RB: Lahm

LB: Alaba

CB: Thiago Silva and .... (definitely not a CB playing in the PL)

CM's: Schweinsteger & Busquets

AM: Messi

WF: Ronaldo & Ribery

CF: Ibrahimovic or Lewandowski

On form right now I would have Mertesacker in there

Going by form yeah?

Dante>>Any CB in world football

In 2013, on performances across every stage, I'd have Dante before Mertersacker too.

Miranda too maybe.

Godin

Thiago

Juve 3

[darkman]

Neuer is better

[Michel Kane]

Juventus trio as a backline maybe, but individually?

 

Hmmm.

 

I rate Godin, wouldn't sure who's better out of him & Miranda.

 

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Everybody keep your eye on Benatia (Roma) for the remainder of the season.

[O Fenomeno]

Valdes concentration levels alone puts him ahead of Neuer