General Election 2015 (Discussion Thread)

[The Infamous]

Lool yeah didnt understand the norway comparison

Land is 4-5 times bigger. Population is very small and they have good export/industrial links

Reasons why the Uk are better off the in EU. Free travel between eu countries. European fair trade. Lol duno why you think you can just exit the EU and expect the EU super powers like germany,france to just allow business to occur with out heavy non-eu fees

A nation if 60 odd million cant really really follow the switzerland/norway template and think it will just be ok. Besides gambino do you really want to have to apply for visa's to go paris or berlin and shit

British people always with this victim mentality. Always asking what the eu has done for you. Yet everyone else is a member and doesnt expect shit

[The Infamous]

Still you are going to have to explain why you think the UK cannot cope without being governed by the EU...... The studies have been done by the people who know their business and 90% say we are better off out of it. So what in your opinion makes you believe the UK Cannot exist out of the EU. For starters we did a pretty damn fine job before we were part of it, but I'll grant you the sentence times have changed.

Europe is not going to stop their trade agreement if we decide to leave. European companies need our custom, they don't play ball with us we don't have to play ball with them simple as. And if we left we're free to go ahead and create our own deals with other places like the commonwealth for starters.

pmsl you are really gullible if you believe that european trade laws wont be affected by ur removal from the eu. All types of extra fees will be added on along with the fact that france and germany will try milk the very last penny out of you.

Could you elaborate on what would be gained from britains independence

[Gambino]

Oh please you have fell for the Labour/Conservative scare mongering that the EU won't allow a trade agreement if the UK leave. I'm sure Norway has a similar set up with the EU regarding trade. You are living in La La Land if you think the UK cannot exist outside of Europe. You think the independant studies are wrong and you are right?

 

We leave we can start managing our own laws again. Live in a country where the people we vote into power make the rules, not guys overseas nobody knows about.

Gain better controls of our borders.

Deport Foreign criminals easier.

Sort the Human Rights bullshit out.

Create our own trade agreements with the rest of the world.

 

Them other countries milk pennys out of us anyways. Constalty trying to foot us with huge bills to prop up poorer countries. Let's not forget how they took a few hundred Million from us and passed it over to another country so that they could build a car plant which resulted in one in the UK being closed down. 

 

I'm no expert on the matter by any means but I gather as I said that the people who created the independent studies are. So go ahead and explain why them studies are wrong and what makes you specialised in the subject.

[The Infamous]

Idgaf really i just wana fly between the uk and other eu countries with out qualms

Gambino really putting this dusty/poorly built country on a pedestal. 100% sure leaving the EU will backfire on u lot before its classed as a good move

[Gambino]

Yea nice back down. I agree your freedom of movement is nice but at the expense of the other costs I would let that slide. And I'm a proud Pro British man, what do you expect me to think about my own country?  Just because you hate the place you live in don't expect me too. This world isn't ready to be One Nation.

 

No idea what you mean by poorly built either.

[The Infamous]

I posted what the cons of leaving the EU were . So i will just fall back and let someone else whose more knowledgeable step forward

All i could think of is how the premier league would suffer pmsl

[Gambino]

Premier League might, England team might benefit from it though lol.

[Thun]

Pmsl at wanting to stay in the EU so you can go from country to country on the ponce

[Thun]

Pmsl at wanting to stay in the EU so you can go from country to country on the ponce

[Niall Ferguson]

Unreal how dumb some of the posts in here are.

[Incumbent]

if it hasn't already been said, voting to me is like choosing which way you want to be fucked

 

not involved as we don't live in a true democratic country/world

 

my attitude is make money, the more you make, the more true freedom you get

 

30 secs onwards

 

[Niall Ferguson]

Agree with that Incumbent, but making money is not mutually exclusive with voting.

[Gambino]

Think he is just wise enough to know he can't come out looking good whilst Farage is on a live TV debate with him. Milliband is dumb enough to believe people take him serious and he's pretty bare faced with his abilities to just stand there lying and repeating himself dodging every single question thrown at him until everyone runs out of time.

[dub]

because its to his benefit not to be involved, Conservatives can't answer for their policies or their actions, their game is a long one and they're not really going to be coming with anything new

 

also Cameron not being involved means the debates hold less weight

Ed will look good when going head to head with Tories or Lib Dems - because its easy to pick apart their shortcomings and Labour ideas will sound like a good change (I imagine)

Farage will look good no matter who he's facing

 

so not attending will help reduce the positives that it gives the other parties

 

in a 7 way debate its all going to be a mess so Cameron gets to say he's "getting involved" but ultimately nothing much will be achieved for the parties

[JOHN DOE]

Pmsl at wanting to stay in the EU so you can go from country to country on the ponce

 

Unreal how dumb some of the posts in here are.

[JOHN DOE]

dunno who i am going to vote for.. 

 

considering that the election is only less than two months away these mps havent been going too hard with campaigning 

[dub]

its crazy right? other than the 2015 budget announced today I don't know anything about parties' actual plans other than a EU referrendum

 

 

you see this new increase in personal allowance, is the public actually demanding this?

[Supermalt]

considering that the election is only less than two months away these mps havent been going too hard with campaigning 

 

its mad, considering a random protest vote

[local]

Lool yeah didnt understand the norway comparison

Land is 4-5 times bigger. Population is very small and they have good export/industrial links

Reasons why the Uk are better off the in EU. Free travel between eu countries. European fair trade. Lol duno why you think you can just exit the EU and expect the EU super powers like germany,france to just allow business to occur with out heavy non-eu fees

 

 

depending on the stats, we're germany and france's biggest / top 4 trading partners / export markets

 

despite how childish politicians might come across they're not goin to cut off their nose to spite their face

 

you seem to be forgetting we r one of those EU superpowers you're talking about

 

regardless i am all for free travel (not for u tho, mainly for me)

 

now this would be sick...

 

'Free movement proposed between Canada, U.K, Australia, New Zealand'

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/free-movement-proposed-between-canada-u-k-australia-new-zealand-1.2998105

[NORA BATTY]

Im planning on voting for cista

[Kuffir]

that budget is hilarious

 

these ppl are bareface liars

 

ima vote labour strictly cause tories/boris tryna sell london to malaysia 

 

fuck that actually labour will do the same

[NORA BATTY]

Then vote cista

[Kuffir]

run em down for me

[dub]

pro weed party