darkman Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Dybala needs another season so does Kane and Vietto Lukaku has had two good seasons Guys mentioned above have had half a season As for Origi he is average and there is no way he is better than Lukaku I watch a lot of Lille Why do they need another season? You can tell from when you first watch them that they're different gravy to Lukaku ability wise. Kane already better than him both scoring and as a footballer. I think Lukaku still has a small chance to be top class when he hits 26, 27 though. What do you see in his game that makes yout hink he can be top class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeshua Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Dybala needs another season so does Kane and Vietto Lukaku has had two good seasons Guys mentioned above have had half a season As for Origi he is average and there is no way he is better than Lukaku I watch a lot of Lille Why do they need another season? You can tell from when you first watch them that they're different gravy to Lukaku ability wise. Kane already better than him both scoring and as a footballer. I think Lukaku still has a small chance to be top class when he hits 26, 27 though. What do you see in his game that makes yout hink he can be top class? Power and pace, hes scoring record at a young age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Of course Lukaku can be top class. You man are going on like Drogba had a better first touch aged 23 Lukakus problem seems to be his entitlement /application, he already thinks he's there and see's himself in that top bracket of players in the world, already talking about another move How can you say Lukaku isn't good enough for Arsenal He is a worse option than Giroud and Welbeck, young Adebayor? Offers something very different than the former two, yes, but thats it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeshua Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Is me saying Welbeck is more talented than Sturridge more crazier than you saying David Silva is as good as Iniesta and Atletico not being better than your clubs? Nope i've made many mistakes judging players on here, but when it comes to Liverpool players, i get it more right than you. You were saying Costa was technically better than Sturridge around the same time, which still sounds stupid to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 lol cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeshua Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Of course Lukaku can be top class. You man are going on like Drogba had a better first touch aged 23 Lukakus problem seems to be his entitlement /application, he already thinks he's there and see's himself in that top bracket of players in the world, already talking about another move How can you say Lukaku isn't good enough for Arsenal He is a worse option than Giroud and Welbeck, young Adebayor? Offers something very different than the former two, yes, but thats it Umm yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Guys forget Drogba only turned good in 2002/03 aged 25 His first touch wasn't the best and still isn't Became in a big game player by 06/07 aged 29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Is me saying Welbeck is more talented than Sturridge more crazier than you saying David Silva is as good as Iniesta and Atletico not being better than your clubs? Nope i've made many mistakes judging players on here, but when it comes to Liverpool players, i get it more right than you. You were saying Costa was technically better than Sturridge around the same time, which still sounds stupid to me. You right Sturridge is more technical than Costa but Costa is a more complete CF Has done it in bigger games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Of course Lukaku can be top class. You man are going on like Drogba had a better first touch aged 23 Lukakus problem seems to be his entitlement /application, he already thinks he's there and see's himself in that top bracket of players in the world, already talking about another move How can you say Lukaku isn't good enough for Arsenal He is a worse option than Giroud and Welbeck, young Adebayor? Offers something very different than the former two, yes, but thats it Adebayor wasn't good enough for Arsenal Giroud is better than Lukaku. And as for Welbeck I'm giving him more time. Although he needs to play central only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Dybala needs another season so does Kane and Vietto Lukaku has had two good seasons Guys mentioned above have had half a season As for Origi he is average and there is no way he is better than Lukaku I watch a lot of Lille Why do they need another season? You can tell from when you first watch them that they're different gravy to Lukaku ability wise. Kane already better than him both scoring and as a footballer. I think Lukaku still has a small chance to be top class when he hits 26, 27 though. What do you see in his game that makes yout hink he can be top class? Power and pace, hes scoring record at a young age. You haven't named any "footballing" attributes And his record for low rate teams means fuck all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Of course Lukaku can be top class. You man are going on like Drogba had a better first touch aged 23 Lukakus problem seems to be his entitlement /application, he already thinks he's there and see's himself in that top bracket of players in the world, already talking about another move How can you say Lukaku isn't good enough for Arsenal He is a worse option than Giroud and Welbeck, young Adebayor? Offers something very different than the former two, yes, but thats it Umm yes. Nah I'm afraid not (not with that certainty anyway) Offers something very different (an athletic presence that can run in behind as opposed to the pivot point that Giroud is), but certainly not a discernibly worse option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 The irony you rate Torres highly but he never had footballing attributes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeshua Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Is me saying Welbeck is more talented than Sturridge more crazier than you saying David Silva is as good as Iniesta and Atletico not being better than your clubs? Nope i've made many mistakes judging players on here, but when it comes to Liverpool players, i get it more right than you. You were saying Costa was technically better than Sturridge around the same time, which still sounds stupid to me. You right Sturridge is more technical than Costa but Costa is a more complete CF Has done it in bigger games That was my argument from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeshua Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 The irony you rate Torres highly but he never had footballing attributes Torres was explosive, a good dribbler and deadly finisher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Of course Lukaku can be top class. You man are going on like Drogba had a better first touch aged 23 Lukakus problem seems to be his entitlement /application, he already thinks he's there and see's himself in that top bracket of players in the world, already talking about another move How can you say Lukaku isn't good enough for Arsenal He is a worse option than Giroud and Welbeck, young Adebayor? Offers something very different than the former two, yes, but thats it Adebayor wasn't good enough for Arsenal Giroud is better than Lukaku. And as for Welbeck I'm giving him more time. Although he needs to play central only Adebayor got 25 goals in an Arsenal shirt Lukaku would do similar For all Girouds link up play he will scrape 18 if he is lucky It is not about the individual it is about what he can bring to the team, Giroud is in the team for the ability to bring the 'wide' players and runners form midfield into the game, he doesn't unfortunately possess the agility / speed / finishing to consistently be on the end of things the way others are Lukaku of the past two seaons in this Arsenal side would be challenging for top scorer, though the teams play in the forward areas would suffer slightly because of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 The irony you rate Torres highly but he never had footballing attributes Torres was explosive, a good dribbler and deadly finisher. i.e. an athlete who could finish, almost exclusively suited to counter attacking & direct styles of play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 The irony you rate Torres highly but he never had footballing attributes Torres was explosive, a good dribbler and deadly finisher. Good dribbler? Don't insult my intelligence That fake feint he used to do so he can go left does not count as dribbling 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 The irony you rate Torres highly but he never had footballing attributes Movement, technique, football brain, finishing..... Difference between Torres and Lukaku is the former done it at the highest level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Weight Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Lol the square + X is not a good dribbler He ran onto the end of things and had quick feet to get off a shot against man like Ben Haim & Vidic He had no close control change of direction skills On any appreciable level, you are a liverpool fan, take a look at Sterling now or Suarez if you want to see those things, Torres just ran past people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Technique and football brain This is Torres we are discussing not Marco Van Basten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Lol the square + X is not a good dribbler He ran onto the end of things and had quick feet to get off a shot against man like Ben Haim & Vidic He had no close control change of direction skills On any appreciable level, you are a liverpool fan, take a look at Sterling now or Suarez if you want to see those things, Torres just ran past people C/S +1 Pos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 The irony you rate Torres highly but he never had footballing attributes Movement, technique, football brain, finishing..... Difference between Torres and Lukaku is the former done it at the highest level So where is this technique and football brain gone? He was nothing but a glorified poacher with pace and now he is nothing but a workhorse who fills in at RM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Technique and football brain This is Torres we are discussing not Marco Van Basten To play at the level he did you need to have football brain... As for technique, just make your way over to youtube and watch his goals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Fenomeno Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattsu Posted February 16, 2015 Report Share Posted February 16, 2015 Of course Lukaku can be top class. You man are going on like Drogba had a better first touch aged 23 Lukakus problem seems to be his entitlement /application, he already thinks he's there and see's himself in that top bracket of players in the world, already talking about another move How can you say Lukaku isn't good enough for Arsenal He is a worse option than Giroud and Welbeck, young Adebayor? Offers something very different than the former two, yes, but thats it Adebayor wasn't good enough for Arsenal Giroud is better than Lukaku. And as for Welbeck I'm giving him more time. Although he needs to play central only Adebayor got 25 goals in an Arsenal shirt Lukaku would do similar For all Girouds link up play he will scrape 18 if he is lucky It is not about the individual it is about what he can bring to the team, Giroud is in the team for the ability to bring the 'wide' players and runners form midfield into the game, he doesn't unfortunately possess the agility / speed / finishing to consistently be on the end of things the way others are Lukaku of the past two seaons in this Arsenal side would be challenging for top scorer, though the teams play in the forward areas would suffer slightly because of it I'm sorry but this is all bullshit Adebayor wasn't good enough for arsenal then, he only scored vs shit teams think 6 of those goals where against a derby who got like 11 points all season. It is about both ,we bang a quick pass into his feet, I known Giroud is going to control it and possibily get somebody else in, lukaku loses the ball here,that's why the team suffering is a bigger deal. I don't even rate Giroud ,but lukaku isn't better than him and he isn't going to.be better for arsenal either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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