Drug Dealers vs Fraudsters/Thieves

[Mr. Martinez]

Local..

Evolution marketplace (darknet market) suffered an exit scam from the admins last week.

Turns out evolution used to be a carding forum. Which means evolution was run by fraudsters from the very beginning.

It always used to bother me that the market had a fraud section and I never really felt comfortable doing business with people that were involved in fraud.

Anyway, now that the admins scammed millions of dollars (12 or 35$million depending on who you believe) there's a massive debate going on about the darknet and the place of drugs and fraud in marketplaces. Just wondered what you lot thought..

yeye i jus connected the dots in the post above this

half watchin it unfold over reddit was pretty interestin

death threats galore

stealth_bomber losin 85k dollars alone

surely the only real business plan is a cut n run? assuming the law will eventually catch up with u

i'd be GONE

So far every market has pretty much been a clone of Silk Road.

The business model is that the admins charge a % on every transaction. And that commission allows them to make money. But admins also have control of a 'master' wallet which basically contains all the funds in escrow. This means that until a new decentralised market with new technology (check out openBazaar) is launched, what happened with evolution is likely to happen again.

Evolution was making a lot of money on commission alone. 100s of k a month. So the scam was just utter greed.

If you are competent, you can run a darknet market without being caught. Everyone that has been caught was due to stupid mistakes on their part. (r.i.p. Ross)

So yea there's a massive opportunity for someone to launch a proper decentralised market place with a good multi-sig solution.

The question remains though.

Do the drug dealers and users that use these markets, have the right to refuse access to those wanting fraud related goods/services?

Ps: I wanted to approach the question from solely a moral POV first to see responses.

[Yung bawse]

depends what drug you're selling imo.. nothing wrong with weed/coke but stronger stuff like heroin is a different story

[O Fenomeno]

You been in many crackhouses?

Are you questioning the authenticity of what I said or are you asking me a separate question?

I'm asking how many crackhouses you've been in.

Why?

[james00]

no matter how bad you think drugs are you cannot get rid of a demand. people getting hooked on drugs is a society problem and a drug dealers exploit.

 

and it depends what you define as a fraudster what about an insurance seller selling exertionate life insurance to OAP's 

[Supermalt]

You been in many crackhouses?

Are you questioning the authenticity of what I said or are you asking me a separate question?

I'm asking how many crackhouses you've been in.

Real men dont ask how many crack houses you been in b

[Yung bawse]

chatty patty

 

 

 

the way i dropped that on someone in an argument the other day with authority like i made it up myself

[Mr. Martinez]

no matter how bad you think drugs are you cannot get rid of a demand. people getting hooked on drugs is a society problem and a drug dealers exploit.

and it depends what you define as a fraudster what about an insurance seller selling exertionate life insurance to OAP's

I think what constitutes a fraudster/thief is quite clear and the insurance seller in your example is definitely that.

[ag.]

nothing wrong with selling weed. it should be legal any way

[Kuffir]

drug dealers r worse

 

much worse

[The Infamous]

i don't like thieves tbh

[Yoshie]

drug dealers r worse

 

much worse

 

Explain.

[Kuffir]

no kmt

 

not everyday explain shit for ppl who still wont overstand

[Yung bawse]

 

people want the drugs, they're going to get them 1 way or another..

 

no ones wants to be a victim of fraud

[dub]

eh, trust-wise they're all around the same area

more respect for drug dealers (not all)

[NORA BATTY]

How is a weed dealer worse than a man who steals an cons from old people essentialy wot ur sayin

[Kuffir]

 

people want the drugs, they're going to get them 1 way or another..

 

no ones wants to be a victim of fraud

 

wtf has that got to do with anything ? further more do kids want bittys for parents ?

 

dont even bother thinking with ur potato head next time 

[Yung bawse]

1. I dunno why you're getting excited for...

 

2. It's still a personal choice

 

3. the most common drugs sold on road don't destroy families even close to how much fraud can

[Yoshie]

 

Parents being nittys ain't the dealers fault.

Parents houses getting run up into is the robbers fault.

[Fresh]

A drug deal has a willing victim and a fraud doesn't, so although drugs have potentially bigger implications, fraud is worse to me.

[Kuffir]

dont be an idiot bruv from when you're selling hard drugs you know what could happen to these cats you just dont care cause its at a profit

 

it is entirely ur fault

[Kuffir]

that was directed at yoshie btw

 

entirely is probably too harsh, 60:40 dealer to user

[Badman]

 

 

They're all scumbags.

[Mame Biram Diouf]

A drug deal has a willing victim

I disagree with calling a drug addict "willing"

[The Infamous]

They're all scumbags.

[Fresh]

 

A drug deal has a willing victim

I disagree with calling a drug addict "willing"

 

Not entirely willing, but there's a reason why a drug addict has an addiction and you do not. Choice.