Russian Plane Crash

[Yuri]

When you think about it

It's wild that Syrians start a rebellion against their government. And they end up having to fight russian special forces. They must feel so violated

[Supermalt]

So many factions now, so can't really lump them all as 'rebels'. Russia just holding up their end of the bargain, and are looking like the saner side out there everyday.

Assad ain't gaddafi, we tried it.

[Gambino]

What actually kicked off this whole rebellion in Syria?

[Gambino]

It's supposed to have flown through a small area that extends outwards towards Syria but is Turkey. Sky guy was saying the path of the flight and small amount of time they would of been in and out of Turkish Airspace made him skeptical as to whether the Turkish Jets would of performed every maneuver in the book required to make contact and warn the Russian Jet before taking the option of shooting it down.

[Fillup Banks]

What actually kicked off this whole rebellion in Syria?

Arab Spring revolts that Assad shut down, outside media/govts encouraged the conflict as a way of removing Assad. Then it descended into proxy war involving Saudi & Iran, NATO & Russia, various ethnic/religious groups & attracted Islamists & mercenaries from Libya that became IS.

 

 

This is getting very sticky now. There are no 'good guys'… The Russian plane getting shot down looks like a reaction for Putin taking out IS's oil refineries and revealing that their backers include G20 members ie. Turkey & Saudi.

 

Without oil money IS wouldn't stand a chance and it's being exported through Kurdistan/Turkey to the Mediterranean. Turkish & Kurdish leaders are profiting from it. In the last 6 months Israel bought most of their oil through the Kurds.

[time_bomb]

NSFW

https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/669117574039388161

 

"Pres. Putin: Describes Incident As ‘Backstabbing By Accomplices Of Terrorists"

 

lol santa chilling in syria

[Gambino]

So The Rebels say they shot dead both pilots whilst they were parachuting to the ground and took a video of one. Russia say one of the Pilots was picked up by the Syrian Army. Turkey says both Pilots are alive and that they are trying to secure their release....

[Mame Biram Diouf]

Russia saying only one is alive

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Ukraine’s prime minister says his government has decided to close the country’s airspace to all Russian planes.

Kiev banned all Russian airlines from flying into Ukraine last month, but Russian planes have been allowed to fly over its territory

[Gambino]

I seen someone post a video on here of one of the pilots who was dead and surrounded by Turks. I heard on the news there was a video of 2 separate pilots like that though. This is all very confusing.

[Elementalism]

 

Great points.

[Mr. Martinez]

This is strike #2

Drone in October.

Jet in November.

Who knows how they'll poke the bear next.

But brace yourselves guis

[Gambino]

Russian Pilot that survived.

 

 

When the navigator was asked if he could have strayed into Turkish territory as Turkey claims, TASS reported that Captain Konstantin Murakhtin told Rossiya One TV channel: "No, this is out of the question even for a one-second possibility, as we were at the altitude of 6,000 metres and the weather was clear.

 

"There were no warnings either via radio communication or optically. There were no contacts at all. That’s why we flew heading combat course as per normal," he said.

"If they wanted to warn us they could have come out by flying on parallel courses. But this did not happen. And the missile came to our jet’s tail all of a sudden … We didn’t even see it to have time for missile evasive manoeuvre."

 

 

[Elementalism]

See here's the thing.

If Putin was the maniac our newspapers pointed out, every frozen kebab in Turkey would be cooked. Turkey wants to chuck this disgusting neo-Ottoman ambition around, but they're clearly not taking their NATO membership into account.

 

Or they are, and NATO knew exactly what Turkey was doing - hence the presence of several news crews, with HD cameras and different angles. The ANNA news crew with the Syrians rescuing the pilots didn't even get the kinda shots the Turkish crew got. Imagine they filmed the fucking dirty Turkmen bastard unfolding, preparing and firing the TOW at the rescue chopper.

 

I don't believe Putin is a maniac, but I have my serious doubts about the leadership of NATO. This is disgusting.

 

I watched this video the other day and I literally thought 'Turkey are going to be pissed!' - I nearly posted a FB status.

 

 

ISIL's so called 'Rolling Pipeline' - got the 'From Russia, with Love' treatment.

[Elementalism]

[The Infamous]

either world war or a cold war 

[Gambino]

Someone has to pay for the death of the commander. I'll be livid if we or any other Nato countries get drawn into a war to back these Turks.

[Heero Yuy]

don't know who to believe tbh

[Mr. Martinez]

Truss that footage of the TOW is ridiculous.

[Gambino]

The Turkish Prime Minister said they didn't even know the Jet was Russian until the Russian Government spoke about it, how could they not know if they had tried to make contact with it and ask them to leave the Air Space? Is that normal?

[The Somalian]

its obvious Turkey knew it was Russian and shot it down to protect the ethnic turks in Syria fighting Assad and the Syrian army.

This whole thing is a fine mess

[ag.]

don't know who to believe tbh

2:01

[Elementalism]

 

don't know who to believe tbh

2:01

 

Adam Curtis x Charlie Brooker, hold a pos.

 

George Osborne..KMT.

 

Fuck a Turkey anyway. I don't know fuck all about corrupt Russia and I don't really give a shit. What about our problems?

 

And right now, a fucking Turkish problem can be equated to our problem.

[time_bomb]

thing thats always baffled me about isis selling oil, how do they have skilled engineers? has this ever been explained?