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10 minutes ago, Mame Biram Diouf said:

How can abstinence be an answer? 

:rofl:

man said abstinence is the answer you know ????

 

MUAD

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10 minutes ago, Mame Biram Diouf said:

How can abstinence be an answer? 

:rofl:

man said abstinence is the answer you know ????

 

MUAD

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As soon as you mark a cross on that piece of paper you are doing one of two things

1, You turn this sham into an entity and give it recognition hence power

2, You become a part of the problem

 

I'm happy to stay out of it until I can make an informed and educated decision 

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26 minutes ago, JOHN DOE said:

Every single brexiteer has either ducked out or been thrown out

madness

Madness.

From when Boris looked shocked you know this was never meant to happen - guy only backed Brexit to gain favour with the senile, EU hating  Tory backbenches in time for the next election.

Farage cast his vote then said "oh yeah we'll probably lose."

Only Gove was crazy enough to believe in this shit and they turfed him.

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12 minutes ago, Badman said:

 

until I can make an informed and educated decision 

That's the answer 

people should be making informed and educated votes 

politics should be taught in schools 

make youngsters know who they align themselves with politically from early 

/

they said eu was undemocractic

now we have a pm that no one voted for

:rofl:

snap election must be called with a manifesto based upon brexit

but even labour right now wouldn't want an election with Corbyn hanging on 

Everything is fucked 

 

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3 hours ago, JOHN DOE said:

 

they said eu was undemocractic

now we have a pm that no one voted for

:rofl:

 

 

Tbf in this country we don't actually vote for the PM, even though it does consciously affect our decision when voting in a general election.

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23 minutes ago, Greens said:

Tbf in this country we don't actually vote for the PM, even though it does consciously affect our decision when voting in a general election.

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6 hours ago, JOHN DOE said:

That's the answer 

people should be making informed and educated votes 

Lol @ informed votes.

There are people who study politics for the majority of their lives and are no closer to the right answers/get it wrong.

Politics is essentially the same as the football pools.

You might think you know a lot about football but in actuality are no closer to picking the right 12 permutations after 20 years of watching.

1 of the most futile endeavours bar none.

Smartest thing to do is vote for those from the same background/see life from your perspective.

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3 hours ago, Greens said:

Tbf in this country we don't actually vote for the PM, even though it does consciously affect our decision when voting in a general election.

This.

Still 1 of the biggest misconceptions. 

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2 hours ago, Cole Des said:

Lol @ informed votes.

There are people who study politics for the majority of their lives and are no closer to the right answers/get it wrong.

Politics is essentially the same as the football pools.

You might think you know a lot about football but in actuality are no closer to picking the right 12 permutations after 20 years of watching.

1 of the most futile endeavours bar none.

Smartest thing to do is vote for those from the same background/see life from your perspective.

Of course you can have more of an informed 

 

David Cameron and Gordon Brown are both highly informed. Being informed compliments their societal views. 

 

Both will feel their ideologies are better and right than the other persons. Doesn't make them informed because it isn't the ultimate universal answer to politics, but it means though, stats, research and rational has gone into their vote 

 

Can't say the same for someone who doesn't know the difference between left and right, or even just the basic economic and politically definitions and workings 

 

Couldn't disagree more with that line of thought. 

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1 minute ago, Mame Biram Diouf said:

David Cameron and Gordon Brown are both highly informed.

SNM

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I did almost the same thing when I saw the guardian headline yesterday.

The guy ruined our eu relationship with lies and he's gonna be in charge of our relationships with the world? 

It's gonna be good

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The UK’s new foreign secretary Boris Johnson has expressed an interest in global affairs over the years — although not always in terms that Britain’s allies would appreciate.

Many of his comments have come in his weekly column in the Daily Telegraph, for which he is paid around £275,000 a year and which he might now face pressure to now give up. Here is a selection:

 

The US 
Hillary Clinton looks “like a sadistic nurse in a mental hospital”, Mr Johnson wrote in 2007, while also attacking her economic policy and “all-round purse-lipped political correctness”. Paradoxically, in the same column, he backed her for president. Indeed he also has had choice words for Donald Trump — “The only reason I wouldn't go to some parts of New York is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump” (2015). Mr Johnson has also criticised Barack Obama, insinuating earlier this year that his decision to move a bust of Winston Churchill could symbolise “the part-Kenyan president’s ancestral dislike of the British empire” 2016. Mr Johnson is an American citizen, having been born in New York.

Russia 
“Despite looking a bit like Dobby the House Elf, he is a ruthless and manipulative tyrant,” was Mr Johnson’s assessment of Vladimir Putin in December. As with the Clinton comment, the columnist then turned more favourable — and said Britain should do a deal with Mr Putin over Syria (see below). 

Turkey 
Two months ago, Mr Johnson won a competition in the Spectator magazine (which he used to edit) for writing the best offensive poem about Recep Tayyip Erdogan for the Turkish president’s insistence on cracking down on insults.

“There was a young fellow from Ankara / Who was a terrific wankerer / Till he sowed his wild oats / With the help of a goat / But he didn’t even stop to thankera,” he wrote.

Mr Johnson explained his thoughts on free speech in Turkey a month earlier: “No one believes that Erdogan is a goat-fancier or that muffled baaing is to be heard from the presidential suite in Ankara. But in a free and pluralist society there is no reason why a self-professed satirist should not make a joke about it.” As part of the Vote Leave campaign, he also called for Britain to rule out Turkish membership of the EU.

The Commonwealth 
In 2008, Mr Johnson apologised after describing Commonwealth citizens as “piccaninnies” — an offensive term for black children. In the same piece he had referred to Africans’ “watermelon smiles”, in an effort to mock the then prime minister Tony Blair’s visits to the continent. Mr Johnson also offended Papua New Guinea’s representative in London, by writing in 2006, “for 10 years we in the Tory party have become used to Papua New Guinea-style orgies of cannibalism and chief-killing”. He said he would be happy to add Papua New Guinea to his “global itinerary of apology”. 

Syria 
Mr Johnson — who has expressed particular concern about the fate of archaeological site Palmyra — has changed his views recently.

Last September, he wrote that siding with President Bashar al-Assad “would be wholly counter-productive”, because it would “turn any remaining moderate Syrian rebels away from the west”. He backed a proposal to create safe zones within Syria to stop the flow of refugees. Since then, however, Mr Johnson has said fighting alongside President Assad and Vladimir Putin is the best hope of defeating Isis. He wrote in favour of an international deal that contains “a timetable for Assad to step down and a plan for a new Syrian government.”

Mr Johnson has also criticised the Foreign Office because “for some baffling reason [it] still hesitates to use the term genocide” about the attacks of Yazidis.

China 
At the closing ceremony of the Beijing Olympics, Mr Johnson joked that ping-pong had not been invented in China after all. But overall as mayor of London, he was a strong advocate of more Chinese trade and investment. So much so that in 2014 he was forced to deny having given favourable treatment to a Chinese company, ABP, which won the rights to develop the Royal Albert Docks.

That followed a week-long visit to China in 2013, when Mr Johnson said Britain could negotiate its own trade deal with the country, if the EU failed to agree one. He also said all British school children should be taught Mandarin: “My kids are learning it, so why not?” Mr Johnson also called for Britain to “sort out” its visa system, an attempt to put pressure on the then home secretary, Theresa May.

Emerging markets 
Mr Johnson has a passion for visiting far-flung regions and promoting trade. “Here I am in Jakarta after an absence of a quarter of a century, and there are some mind — blowing things about the place. For starters, they all get up so early,” he wrote in one dispatch.

Visiting Kurdistan, Mr Johnson spoke to the prime minister about “how London could help advise with transforming [the capital city] Erbil into the natural banking centre of the Middle East.” He has called Kurdistan “an oasis of democracy” and said the future of Iraq could be “a more federal structure, with even more autonomy for Kurdistan”. 

 

 

This fucking guy.

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Nothing but Ws for Boris.

Calm little position to keep an eye on the top job till 2020.

But the time Brexit has happened and the whole country is brutalised and depressed he can come in on some "Think it's time we all had a laugh" tip and wrap up the election.

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