cambridgebanteer Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 meanwhile over here... Antiques dealer made bullets used in scores of UK shootings, court told Paul Edmunds goes on trial accused of making tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition at his Gloucestershire home A stock image of bullets. Edmunds may have made up to £375,000 from selling on guns and ammunition, the court heard. Photograph: Joe Raedle/Getty Images View more sharing options Shares 9 Steven Morris and agency @stevenmorris20 Thursday 5 October 2017 15.23 BSTLast modified on Thursday 5 October 2017 15.28 BST An antiques dealer supplied gangsters with guns and ammunition used in more than 100 shootings, including murders, across the UK, a jury has been told. Paul Edmunds, 66, is accused of using his “encyclopaedic knowledge” of weapons to make tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition at his Gloucestershire home. Birmingham crown court was told the ammunition was sold on to associates in the criminal underworld and was found at the scenes of dozens of shooting incidents. Edmunds also allegedly circumvented firearms legislation in order to import hundreds of weapons from the United States. He denies conspiracy to supply firearms and ammunition, fraudulent evasion of a prohibition or restriction, perverting the course of justice and possession of a prohibited firearm. A jury of seven men and five women was told that Edmunds manufactured the ammunition at three armouries at his home. He was investigated after the National Ballistics Intelligence Service (Nabis) noticed an increasing number of pre-war handguns at crime scenes. Nabis’s work resulted in members of an organised crime gang involved in supplying the firearms with the specially made ammunition being caught and convicted. Experts realised tool markings on ammunition seized matched those they had recovered over several years, and the police launched Operation Gold Dust. Opening the case, the prosecutor Andrew Fisher QC said: “This case concerns the supply of guns and live ammunition to criminal gangs both in the West Midlands and across the country. In March 2014 the police mounted an operation in an attempt to apprehend both those who supplied the guns and those who possessed them. “The firearms experts at Nabis had noticed that since 2009 an increasing number of police recoveries were of pre-war handguns for which there was no commercially available ammunition. Examinations showed that much of this ammunition had been manufactured using the same equipment. “Microscopic examinations enabled them to see telltale tool markings on the ammunition, rather like fingerprints. Therefore, it appeared that the same person or manufacturer was supplying the specially made or adapted ammunition that was recovered from over 100 crime scenes throughout the country. “As you can imagine, there was an extensive search for not just the people who had these firearms, but the person supplying them and the ammunition.” The court heard that the weapons were passed to a gang leader, Nosakhere Stephenson, by a man called Mohinder Surdhar through the gang’s chief armourer, Sundish Nazran. Fisher said: “Surdhar obtained the guns from various sources including Mr Edmunds, and the specially made or adapted ammunition from Edmunds. These weapons were then used in several fatal shootings, and the shooting at a police helicopter during the London riots of 2011.” Edmunds was approached by the police after an invoice of his was found among Surdhar’s papers. His premises were searched. The prosecutor said: “His business was run from home. The principal armoury was his garage, and this was already known to and regularly inspected by the authorities. But police searches found a further armoury in his bedroom where he undertook some of the modifications, and a third one in the attic. “It was found that the specially made or adapted ammunition recovered by the police in the 100-plus recoveries from crime scenes matched ammunition found at Edmunds’ house. There were many tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition and component parts.” Fisher went on: “Plainly he has an expertise and almost encyclopaedic knowledge of firearms and ammunition. He has been supplying guns and ammunition highly unlawfully for many years.” Jurors were told that further searches of Edmunds’ home revealed he had been importing hundreds of guns from the US. Fisher said Edmunds then failed to list them on his firearms register, meaning they could not be traced. “He managed to get around this regulation, including costs and taxes, in order to make it cheaper for him but, more relevantly, easier to supply to the illicit market,” the prosecutor said. The court heard that Edmunds may have made up to £375,000 as a result of selling on the guns and ammunition. The trial continues and is expected to last six weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Seydou Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Plot twist: He was the delivery guy, the real attacker escaped like Jack Bauet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QPR Dee Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Seydou said: Plot twist: He was the delivery guy, the real attacker escaped like Jack Bauet if we're throwing out smart-dumb theories.... ISIS really did do it, they kidnapped his girl in the Philippines for 100k, which he sent (ISIS has a sect there) she came back and set him up with some ISIS don then fled back. guy was taken with his guns into the room, ISIS don shot the people then shot the guy and left as a member of the hotel staff in the chaos then ensued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum50 Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 48 minutes ago, QPR Dee said: if we're throwing out smart-dumb theories.... ISIS really did do it, they kidnapped his girl in the Philippines for 100k, which he sent (ISIS has a sect there) she came back and set him up with some ISIS don then fled back. guy was taken with his guns into the room, ISIS don shot the people then shot the guy and left as a member of the hotel staff in the chaos then ensued. that is some navy seal type planning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zizouz Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 52 minutes ago, QPR Dee said: if we're throwing out smart-dumb theories.... ISIS really did do it, they kidnapped his girl in the Philippines for 100k, which he sent (ISIS has a sect there) she came back and set him up with some ISIS don then fled back. guy was taken with his guns into the room, ISIS don shot the people then shot the guy and left as a member of the hotel staff in the chaos then ensued. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Heero Yuy Posted October 5, 2017 Report Share Posted October 5, 2017 Last two posts, wp. had to let the whole song play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afroman Posted October 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 can't lie, this looks hard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuffir Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 On 05/10/2017 at 5:57 PM, Zizouz said: Was wondering why a song like this was getting so much suction should've known it was featured in that damn Rick n Morty (no hater / yes hating) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dom dom bullets Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 Can't say it's nothing to do with the law. Doesn't Switzerland have the highest gun crime in Europe? Or gun related deaths or something? Obviously nothing like American rates, so it's not only the law either. Culture is a factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Afroman Posted October 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 Been on the money with these recent gifs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gambino Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 His status doesn't match what I witnessed in that video at all. She was talking absolute bollocks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Afroman Posted October 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 14 minutes ago, Restrictive said: Da Real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambino Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Afroman said: Da Real Can you explain this particular situation for me mate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seydou Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 On 05/10/2017 at 5:04 PM, QPR Dee said: if we're throwing out smart-dumb theories.... ISIS really did do it, they kidnapped his girl in the Philippines for 100k, which he sent (ISIS has a sect there) she came back and set him up with some ISIS don then fled back. guy was taken with his guns into the room, ISIS don shot the people then shot the guy and left as a member of the hotel staff in the chaos then ensued. Isis had a gay guy shooting up a night club after months of deep undercover. Even downloading that gay dating app. They recruiting all types now bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 The more you read into this the more certain things really aren't adding up though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtec Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 10 hours ago, Restrictive said: Textbook deflection 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heero Yuy Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Quote Some law enforcement officials believe that Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock was suffering from an undiagnosed mental illness when he gunned down 58 people from a high-rise sniper's nest during a country music festival, ABC News reported Saturday. One source told the network that Paddock displayed anti-social traits common to other mass shooters. Others point out that Paddock appeared to have trouble forming meaningful relationships and was seen by some acquaintances as disconnected or standoffish. However, Paddock's girlfriend told FBI agents Wednesday that she had not noticed any changes in his mental state or indications he could become violent, a federal official told the Associated Press. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/07/investigators-reportedly-believe-las-vegas-gunman-had-undiagnosed-mental-illness.html never in doubt, open and shut case johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Heero Yuy Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 Gunshow loop hole, heard about it before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN DOE Posted October 8, 2017 Report Share Posted October 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, Agony said: Amazing a fucking rifle you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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