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Yh yh good. Dont quote me again 

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2 hours ago, Grafter said:

Thats an excuse

What is stoppin them from sending troops into another african nation and retrieving their citizens? What is stoppin them disseminating this information to their own citizens to discourage the journey?

 

truth is these people paying to leave the country are expendable - the aff countries have enough issues  to worry about rather collecting people via military/ other means who are paying to leave the country via smuggling routes 

however providing information to their people about making the journey - how do you know this doesn't happen?

furthermore the conditions and outlook for them are so dire sometimes that they are willing to risk it all just to make that journey to  Europe

how effective can information given to poor people be when they are knee deep in poverty - stuck between a rock and a hard place shit 

at least with the hard place they are no aware of how 'hard' it is 

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Just now, JOHN DOE said:

 

truth is these people paying to leave the country are expendable - the aff countries have enough issues then to worry about rather collecting people via miltiary/ other means who are paying to leave the country via smugglign routes 

however providing information to thier people about making the journey - how do you know this doesnt happen?

furthermore the conditioins and outlook for them are so dire sometimes that they are willing to risk it all just to make that journey to  europe

how effective can information given to poor people be when they are knee deep in poverty - stuck between a rock and a hard place shit 

at least with the hard place they are no aware of how 'hard' it is 

Thanks for this answer. Non reactionary and logical

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2 hours ago, Heero Yuy said:

 

was Africa a utopia before the white man, did slavery not exist prior, do you expect it to become some unified justice league once all the puppets are kicked out?

Bruhhhh

im sure even Zulus kept slaves

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@Heero Yuy @Seydou

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1. nobody said that

2. let's not act like those kinds of scattered, village here and village there types slavery from way back when is the same as the white mans global & industrial type of slavery

 

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From looking at the disgusting way people are being enslaved to moaning about Jamaica......:clueless:

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19 hours ago, Incumbent said:

nothing unless they want to loose everything including their life

any african leader who goes against the will of their european controllers dies, is replaced & shit goes back to how it is

even nelson was a puppet

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funny enough the same reason that won't happen is the same reason jamaicans can't do shit about whites & chinese taking over and controlling shit

whites & chinse have PLENTY of money and they fund us to destroy us

 

This isnt as true as you think it is

as much as you would like to.. please dont use a military take over as an example. 

you will struggle to count any post colonial revolution that ushered in a popular african leader on one hand. 

some military guy taking over an elected govt....regardless of his good intentions..has every reason to be removed, betrayed or murdered..

if he had good intentions, then set up the right institutions whilst putting civilians in charge and leave the responsibility of governance to civilians...

african leaders are more concerned about strong men than building a strong community or institutions that will build a strong future...

Daemons can only Daem..thats in their DNA. But some guy taking over an elected government and then installing himself as a leader is a fool not a leader. 

he took over by force but expects that he cannot be victim of the same fate? 

so that is why Europe has been successful in impoverishing africa since "independence", none of them have vision. 

 

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16 hours ago, Incumbent said:

@Heero Yuy @Seydou

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1. nobody said that

2. let's not act like those kinds of scattered, village here and village there types slavery from way back when is the same as the white mans global & industrial type of slavery

 

 

Isn't this basically answering my point that there was slavery then.

And my second point is that guys act like removing all western influences and power from Africa will restore it to a great unified just continent that it never was to begin with. And whenever anyone tries to start a discussion on things it just dissolves into white man fallacies. 

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Certain man will never leave the victim mentality, always blaming the white man when it comes to Africa. 

If a stranger can come and dissolve your household easily then you have bigger issues within your house that you need to deal with. 

 

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African Union should intervene, blow these arabs  into the sea

my parents'  country iran simultaneously beefs and manipulates all the arab nations on a daily basis, AU can take a leaf out of their book  especially if you get chinese on board

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3 hours ago, Seydou said:

Certain man will never leave the victim mentality, always blaming the white man when it comes to Africa. 

If a stranger can come and dissolve your household easily then you have bigger issues within your house that you need to deal with. 

 

Are you Aff?

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6 hours ago, Seydou said:

Certain man will never leave the victim mentality, always blaming the white man when it comes to Africa. 

If a stranger can come and dissolve your household easily then you have bigger issues within your house that you need to deal with. 

 

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fuck a victim mentally, how about victim reality

you talk as if the victim is to blame for the mess their in, furthermore I don't think you know how deep this ting is

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8 hours ago, Heero Yuy said:

 

Isn't this basically answering my point that there was slavery then.

And my second point is that guys act like removing all western influences and power from Africa will restore it to a great unified just continent that it never was to begin with. And whenever anyone tries to start a discussion on things it just dissolves into white man fallacies. 

:/ but the levels are very different, champions league v grass roots ffs

that's just words ppl like you tell yourselves so that you can accept the fuckery white folk been doing to blacks for god knows how long which is still happening in 2017, fuck a discussion coz there isn't really anything to discuss imo, how about whites/chinses/arabs just leave africa/blacks alone, just fuck off and let's see

the reality is whites WILL NEVER leave/give back control so all that restoring africa to what it was talk is redundant & a non starter

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Nah i'm just a realist, I can't sit here and listen to  waffle about woe is Africa while completely ignoring the corruption, horrible leaders that have murdered, beaten, and whose policies drove people into hunger and poverty. You need to apply the same moral standards to cunts in our governments to the cunts in theirs. But these man will never have any standards to adhere to till while you allow the phantom white boogey man card to take a shit on your ability to reach any sort of objective conclusions.

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For every of those names mentioned you have 10 Samuel Doe's you have to sift through

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On 24/11/2017 at 10:28 AM, Seydou said:

Certain man will never leave the victim mentality, always blaming the white man when it comes to Africa. 

If a stranger can come and dissolve your household easily then you have bigger issues within your house that you need to deal with. 

 

 

On 24/11/2017 at 3:51 PM, Seydou said:

I'm Cambodian 

Surely you know then Whypippo been fucking up your shit too. French came and ruled your shit, tried to impose new religion called Roman Catholisim and French language.

Then occupied by (US controlled) Japan, then Bombed sky high by the USA during Vietnam war supporting the Khmer Rouge.

US Puppet Pol Pot (for Khmer Rouge) commited Genocide on the people weapons supplied by the USA backing for their motives in Vietnam next door.

Just because you have accepted imperialist rule, don't speak on others who don't accept it and see it for what it is. Still have remnants of former Khmer Rouge officials in power today, and you think Cambodia is really independent. With it's crazy corruption there too?

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5 minutes ago, Supermalt said:

Very Gambino-ish in here.

Nah just some Asian coons, in the mix.

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