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Aziz Ansari accused of sexual misconduct

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26 minutes ago, FA23 said:

 

Haven't finished but this is a good analysis

Fair enough

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The feminist writer and speaker Jessica Valenti tweeted, “A lot of men will read that post about Aziz Ansari and see an everyday, reasonable sexual interaction. But part of what women are saying right now is that what the culture considers ‘normal’ sexual encounters are not working for us, and oftentimes harmful.”

 

i agree with that statement

i dont agree with aziz behaviour but also can't understand hers

and i said i couldn't understand why she went public

regards the magazines the author refers to. In my readings of j17 an cosmo i don't recall the same type of cautionary tales so as I say young girls are not really equipped

and as i already said had she valued herself she would have left sooner, value seems to be something those cautionary tales indirectly instilled

 

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hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, even when the scorning is above board.

 

Male celebs should just go for escorts if they're roasting, way too peak for them to be dealing with a girl of hopes and dreams.

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She's right

Just by some responses in here, this story tarnishes the movement

Jus like the woman who was wondering if she should report her boss who she chose to sleep with after her divorce

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34 minutes ago, Afroman said:

Banfield summed it up nicely

No surprise this rapey c*nt is backing it 

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50 minutes ago, Thizz said:

No surprise this rapey c*nt is backing it 

Go suck your mum while she's in  a hand stand position, lazy eyed dribbly mug

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Agree with that video

guy came across bare thirsty in that article (if full facts) but it doesnt deserve all this attention

its either he assaulted you or not, all this fence straggling distracts from real crimes

get up and leave, who raised these scary women

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1 hour ago, Afroman said:

Go suck your mum while she's in  a hand stand position, lazy eyed dribbly mug

All of this is redundant cause you’re scared of me 😘

 

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On 15/01/2018 at 10:38 AM, Thizz said:

“After he bent me over is when I stood up and said no, I don’t think I’m ready to do this, I really don’t think I’m going to do this. And he said, ‘How about we just chill, but this time with our clothes on?’”

While the TV played in the background, he kissed her again, stuck his fingers down her throat again, and moved to undo her pants.

That's sexual harassment no?

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6 hours ago, Grafter said:

She's right

Just by some responses in here, this story tarnishes the movement

Jus like the woman who was wondering if she should report her boss who she chose to sleep with after her divorce

how do you feel about this reflection on it?

 

The poorly reported Aziz Ansari exposé was a missed opportunity

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/16/aziz-ansari-story-missed-opportunity?CMP=fb_gu

 

What we haven’t touched on nearly as thoroughly is heterosexual sex for women in a society that still sees sex as primarily about male pleasure; that continues to position women’s bodies as sexual objects, receptacles and stand-ins for sex itself; and that encourages sexual aggressiveness in men and congeniality and passivity in women (perhaps the best – and one of the few – pieces written on the sexist power dynamics within consensual sex was by Rebecca Traister in New York magazine, back in 2015).

When we haven’t yet agreed that female pleasure and clear enthusiasm are prerequisites for a sexual encounter, we lack the ability to peel back the layers of sexual experience, and we end up with two bad options: accept sexual inequity as just how sex is (or just how men are) or wedge truly bad sexual experiences into the category of sexual assault.

 

 

Too much of the discussion is black and white. Not much in the middle. TBH I think it will be like this for a long time until society (at least western) is seen as "equal". But the reality is there is a messy grey area where we more often operate in.

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Read the whole article and I agree with this commentary also and glad someone put it into words.

 

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Girls are raised with a contradictory set of expectations: be kind and acquiescent, but also be the brakes on male sexual desire. We are taught to reflexively say yes except for when we’re supposed to definitively say no, but we don’t learn how to know when we want to say either.

this is true except I think it's more we dont learn how to safely say no and as the article indicates its an unequal playing field in the first place - should we even have to be in these positions. You know how you feel in a given situation imo

 

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On 1/16/2018 at 3:48 AM, Grafter said:

1. Nothing wrong with short men

2. Hes not my type but cant see him havin a problem gettin women based on his physical appearance ( obviously not everyones cup of tea but hardly anyone is)

 

i am

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On 16/01/2018 at 5:27 PM, QPR Dee said:

 

 

pmsl, the journalist is getting slaughtered now

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4 minutes ago, FA23 said:

 

pmsl, the journalist is getting slaughtered now

:rofl:

If i was to guess what she looks like theres an 85% chance i'd get it right

she fully had a tantrum in text mode.

also, nothing more annoying than when people capitalise words mid paragraph

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Immature to say the least

No class whatsoever

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Can't be bothered to engage in a debate of her ideas or stance, so just result to thinly veiled  insults, appeal to age fallacy to try to discredit Ashleigh's opinion etc.

Typical response of someone from this neo 'liberal' millennial generation.

I'm happy a lot of the media are seeing through this Ansari story, new york times did a great piece on it too. It always irks me when these social movements get hijacked by a bunch of self entitled idiots.

 

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On 16/01/2018 at 11:43 PM, dub said:

"What we haven’t touched on nearly as thoroughly is heterosexual sex for women in a society that still sees sex as primarily about male pleasure; that continues to position women’s bodies as sexual objects, receptacles and stand-ins for sex itself; and that encourages sexual aggressiveness in men and congeniality and passivity in women" 

 

Too much of the discussion is black and white. Not much in the middle. TBH I think it will be like this for a long time until society (at least western) is seen as "equal". But the reality is there is a messy grey area where we more often operate in.

Agreed.

I think this example has brought about useful discussion and a lot of needed reflection from both genders.

Imo the Ansari's career is finished talk is hyperbole, but only time will tell.

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