Cause and Solutions to Rise in Recent Violent Crime

[Agony]

Getting rid of the music is like getting rid of the accelerant to a fire. It may stop the fire getting worse but it doesn't put out the fire and doesn't address the reason why the fire started in the first place. 

[Horatio Caine]

I wouldn't cry if they erased such channels like link up tv etc

 

[Seydou]

50 minutes ago, ag. said:

You're seriously comparing John Coltrane and Charlie Parker to Loski and 67 lol gtfoh. They used to demonise rnb and Jazz for various reasons specific to that time and era. U would have to be dense to compare two situations like that. This new music has no reedeming qualities and very clearly has a link to the increase in all these shooting and stabbings, even the acid shit. They need to change the overall culture by force. Too many entitled people thats the crux of it

You are one slow guy innit. The point is in your fucking point.

"They used to demonise rnb and Jazz for various reasons specific to that time and era"

This is the point people trying to tell you.  YOU are the one comparing it today's music.

They were spewing the same reasons to ban it as you currently are. That is it. Most people here including YOU are agreeing on same points.

 

[ag.]

They werent spewing the same reasons at all. Try and think things through before you write...

[Afroman]

10 minutes ago, Seydou said:

You are one slow guy innit. The point is in your fucking point.

"They used to demonise rnb and Jazz for various reasons specific to that time and era"

This is the point people trying to tell you.  YOU are the one comparing it today's music.

They were spewing the same reasons to ban it as you currently are. That is it. Most people here including YOU are agreeing on same points.

 

What were the reasons given back then?

[Seydou]

7 minutes ago, Afroman said:

What were the reasons given back then?

A simple Google:

"1920s youth used the influence of jazz to rebel against the traditional culture of previous generations. This youth rebellion of the 1920s went hand-in-hand with fads like bold fashion statements (flappers), women smoking cigarettes, free talk about sex, and new radio concerts. Dances like the Charleston, developed by African Americans, suddenly became popular among the youth. Traditionalists were aghast at what they considered the breakdown of morality.[29]Some urban middle-class African Americans perceived jazz as "devil's music", and believed the improvised rhythms and sounds were promoting promiscuity."

Well dear me, such a bad influence...in combination with illegal drinks, I'm sure there were lots of fights.

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The point is music will be always used as an excuse to be banned. 

[Afroman]

So they were talking about dipping and shooting each other,  post code wars and all ?

Ok cool. 

[Lieutenant]

Smh

[darkman]

Music definitely influences violence but at the same time it can provide an avenue to escape the violence. There are people in music now and even from garage/grime days who'd be caught it up in street life if it wasn't for music

[local]

2 hours ago, ag. said:

Haha. Comparing Jazz from the 50s to the nonsense they make today. Ffs

 

 

[The Somalian]

Crime spikes at times that is all what is happening now, this society we live in is the cause. But you get people coming in with their own agenda's blaming things such as music as the underlying issue which is nonsense. 

If a teenager got killed in a random attack thoughts are with his parents but shit happens and that is unfortunately a part of this life we have.

If a child got murdered after his name was called out on a youtube video in some gang shit that is beyond music forget that fuckry. I have to ask how comes the parents are not aware of this because I know for sure if parents on here (pray to god it never happens) had their childs name being called out in a video they will ship their youth away from London.

We all know man dem who moved out the ends or had their cousins move in with them because of beef in their bits because the parents/parent/family took affirmative action to prevent fuckry. Look to the family, sometimes the family may be fucked up but so is life. 

 

 

[cambridgebanteer]

I don't believe none of this stuff about music driving violence. 'it's the economy stupid', the market for cocaine is too lucrative and vulnerable people are being sold a cocaine dream  Either legalise it and bring it under government regulation or have a Glasgow style crackdown like they did with heroin. Murder rate will plummet. Can't just sit about doing neither. Which we are

[Da Luv Doc]

That 6 9 guy looks like a fucking stupid idiot. Fuck his life!

[cambridgebanteer]

 

[dayomesaydayo]

3 hours ago, Heero Yuy said:

Said this before. There are people who are at risk of falling into criminal activity. Glasgow literally profiled these people when they developed their strategy for dealing with knife crime. They did an intervention scheme before they went down that path. You think white glasgow man up there were being influenced by music to their madness lol. 

 

Why the hell are you bringing up white people in glasgow for?

Just because white scottish  man werent influenced by rap music doesnt mean black londoners arent.

 

[Drift]

Cmon man...

[Vtec]

What music do you think European colonisers where bumping when they where slaughtering aboriginals from America to Australia and Africa wherever their boats landed? 

http://endgenocide.org/learn/past-genocides/native-americans/

http://allthatsinteresting.com/australia-genocide

Ye olde trapeth music? 

 

[Seydou]

3 hours ago, Afroman said:

So they were talking about dipping and shooting each other,  post code wars and all ?

Ok cool. 

 

1 hour ago, Da Luv Doc said:

That 6 9 guy looks like a fucking stupid idiot. Fuck his life!

 

37 minutes ago, dayomesaydayo said:

 

Why the hell are you bringing up white people in glasgow for?

Just because white scottish  man werent influenced by rap music doesnt mean black londoners arent.

 

 

10 minutes ago, Vtec said:

What music do you think European colonisers where bumping when they where slaughtering aboriginals from America to Australia and Africa wherever their boats landed? 

http://endgenocide.org/learn/past-genocides/native-americans/

http://allthatsinteresting.com/australia-genocide

Ye olde trapeth music? 

 

And with that, off we ride.

 

[dayomesaydayo]

1 hour ago, Vtec said:

What music do you think European colonisers where bumping when they where slaughtering aboriginals from America to Australia and Africa wherever their boats landed? 

http://endgenocide.org/learn/past-genocides/native-americans/

http://allthatsinteresting.com/australia-genocide

Ye olde trapeth music? 

 

Again why you comparing something which whites done 6 hundred fucking years ago to what blacks are doing now

Infact why are you lot even bringing up whites in the first place.

This mentality is a big reason why black people will never move forward.

We are talking about serious issues that affect black people and you clowns are bringing up white people.

Mad inferiority complex.

 

[Vtec]

@dayomesaydayo

I can bring this forward to present time quite easily.  

USA, UK Israel Russia (European)  currently the most violent and pathologic nations where it. Concerns killing citizens daily home or abroad... In the name of democracy or intellectual violence etc. 

Sitting on the world's most powerful world ending bombs n shit.

They will kill at will listening to Celine Dione or mozart. So please link me to where music perpetuates killing? 

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As for the UK blacks and USA. Music industry is not ran by us, record labels not run by us. The social and economic status of us as a whole is continually stunted in a systematic way. 

Weapons drugs we produce non of.. But somehow become poster child for a dark shady underworld ran by everyone else. Running straight up to the doors of power in Westminster and white House etc

So very easy for this narrative to be constructed of black on black crime and trapstar vids to be convinient blame. When we have zero power in these industries perpetuating this image.

[SLEAZE BALL]

I understand where you nuts are going with this

And some of you kinda have some points here and there

But in reality this has nothing to do with UK drill music or cocaine

We have now entered the age of clout

And these pussyholes will literally do ANYTHING to get it

[yhfam]

? this has deffo solved gang crime 

who the fuck are they protesting to ffs

[ag.]

5 hours ago, Vtec said:

What music do you think European colonisers where bumping when they where slaughtering aboriginals from America to Australia and Africa wherever their boats landed? 

http://endgenocide.org/learn/past-genocides/native-americans/

http://allthatsinteresting.com/australia-genocide

Ye olde trapeth music? 

 

Absolutely pointless paragraph to write. Do you think Imperial conquests or mass murder didn't happen in Africa before white people came you absolute idiot. Do you seriously believe this shit you always come out with or u just have to stay consistent to the Pan African avenger of colonial crimes idea of yourself ha

[M.Dot]

4 hours ago, yhfam said:

? this has deffo solved gang crime 

who the fuck are they protesting to ffs

Well considering they marched to the scene of the crime, where the victims friends & family were still paying respects, maybe they helped to influence someone who may have been planning to take a life in revenge.

 

[yhfam]

Yeah or maybe not