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  2. Flossin thread

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    Anyone know or heard of this Charles Gordon guy?

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    I had the great pleasure to meet a South London lad who has walked on both sides of the street. Charles Gordon is an inspirational man who has worked hard and smart to achieve the success he now enjoys today.

    Charles turned up at our Chelmsford offices in a chauffeur driven Bentley. I could smell the leather from our second floor window! Charles was dressed immaculately and he had good reason to smile.

    I enjoyed my time with Charles and found him to be very interesting, intelligent and above all welcoming. He is a down to earth guy who you cannot help but like. We laughed and joked about life before we ran our interview.

    Multi-millionaire Charles Gordon has partied hard with P-Diddy and worked harder amassing a fortune through property development, but as a teenager he almost turned instead to a life of crime. Long before the Lamborghinis and Aston Martins came along, he was forced to consider a job at Burger King whilst his peers tried to encourage him to steal car radios just to get by.

    The businessman, who made his first million aged just 21 was labelled as unemployable at school and surrounded by the police sirens and gun culture of a run-down South London estate, almost joined a gang to get rich quick or die trying.

    Here is what I asked Charles.

    What was your childhood like?

    My dad’s Jamaican and my mum’s from the Bahamas. How I would summarize it is that it takes extremes. The Jamaican side of me is extreme in one way and the Bahamian side of me is extreme in another way.

    I remember when I was younger coming home one day on the bus with my mum and we were having a conversation and I asked my mum, “Which half of me is Bahamian and which half of me is Jamaican”? She said to me “you see the ignorance side of you that loses its temper, that gets angry, that breaks things and wants to beat a person up when they upset you, that’s the Jamaican half. You see the diplomatic side, the negotiator, want to reason it out and needs to understand everything, that’s your Bahamian side of you”.

    What was your first opportunity, your first taste that set you on your road?

    I knew a bit about property and my dad was in the property industry at the time. But we didn’t get on, we were like two bulls in a pen and it wasn’t going to happen. I’d only ever had one job in my life and that’s was in a sports shop selling trainers, but I was the best trainer salesman there. I got sacked from there about three times but they had to keep bringing me back because I was the best salesman in the store.

    I remember there was a guy who at time had a Porsche 944 and I asked him how he got it. He answered me saying that he was in property and I asked him how it worked. He basically said that what you need to do is buy houses and sell them on and I looked at it and thought that it can’t be too complicated! He advised me that I needed to look into buying property that is cheaper than it is actually worth.

    At the time I found a property for £43,000 but it was valued for £55,000 and then you got to find a buyer. I found a friend of mine, that at the time the mortgages were 95%. So what I basically did was, found a buyer for the property, went back to them a week later and said I’ve got a property. I then went to an estate agent and said I need something that someone wants to buy quickly as they were in a hurry so they found me a property.

    I negotiated the deal and went back to this guy and said that I’ve this property available for £55,000, I’ve got a buyer and they are ready to go. He then went away, did the rest of the deal with solicitors.

    That deal made about £10,000 and he paid me £1,600 commission. I then used that £1,600 to open up a letting agency. That £1,600 got me the signs, desks and chairs. It was rough and I was there for a year and a half.

    At that time letting agencies were roughly charging £1,000 to rent properties. We undercut everyone on fees. £200 was nothing to other agencies, but to me it was big money. We worked on providing an excellent service and we built up a client base offering them fees they could not refuse. As a direct result, we monopolized the market.

    Is it true you made your first £1 million before you were 21 years old, is there any truth in that?

    I started in the property industry when I was 19 years old. I was negotiating with the contractors and had no money to pay for the solicitors. When I called the solicitors I used to say I was a trainee solicitor working for Charles Gordon Esquire but I managed to negotiate the lease myself.

    The way I saw it was I had nothing to lose and if it went wrong what were they going to do, take away the lease? I didn’t really care, I just wanted to get in there and make it work. When I was negotiating with the agents, I asked what we can get away with and I ended up getting a good deal, I got 6 months rent free and negotiated a 5 year lease.

    The way I saw it was I had 6 months to make it work and make some money, if it didn’t work I would just pack it in. It was a case of taking that leap of faith and it worked out alright.

    What has been the biggest challenge you have had to face?

    Business is glorified gambling. There was a particular situation I remember really clearly where we were dealing in management property and we were turning over a lot of money which necessarily wasn’t our money. A family member came to me and wanted to borrow some money, they needed £100,000 to make a deal. The deal was giving them the £100,000 on Thursday and I would get it back on Tuesday.

    Come Tuesday phone calls weren’t getting answered etc and the problem was the £100,000 wasn’t my money. I still had £50,000 that I needed to pay out which I didn’t have! I then worked all hours to earn the £50,000 back and pay everyone. I wasn’t going to give up. It only made me stronger and wiser. I then made a rule of thumb, don’t lend people money.

    What does your business interest consist of now?

    The basic businesses for me is property, we have quite an extensive property portfolio now, built up over the years. What we do is buy a 5 bedroom house, convert it into flats and rent it all out.

    What this did for us is it created an extensive portfolio. I still have the estate agents, which has about 15-20 people working in there now. The overall objective is we have the estate agency side which keeps all the property rented, as well as managing other people’s property. We have a management section and a letting section.

    I’ve been in the music industry for about 6 years now. The record label is separate and is called Genetic; we are building it up from the grass roots. We currently have four bands on the record label, which we are working on and are looking to bring out this year.

    What are the three things that have contributed to your success?

    I can sum it up, I don’t do failure, and I’m not having it, not for a second. My take on life is if it can be done, I can do it and I’m not going to stop until I get it done. In life it’s not that people don’t have the ability to do it, its just they give up. That’s where I’m different and I don’t stop till I win.

    What do you do with something that isn’t making money but you’re getting it to a stage where you believe its going to work?

    90% of the population in the world is negative. That 90% don’t believe they can do it, but that 10% believe they can and that 10% are the people that are successful.

    People will tell you that it won’t work. When it comes down to a business of any description, there is a point where you have to draw a line where you have to say, ‘Well is it working for me or isn’t it working for me and that to me is a learning curve. What I would look at now is simply this - what is my end goal and what are my objectives? Forget what everyone else says, they don’t get it. What you have to do is look at your market and what you have to do.

    Tell me about your book ‘The Secret of Empowerment’...

    The objective behind the book is that I frequently get asked questions on how I do it, etc and I don’t have the time to answer all the questions. So I wanted to write it all down so they’ve got a rough guide of the principles I used that made me successful. Basic things that is basic to all people.

    What would your advice be in starting up a business?

    You have to believe. Once you believe, you can do it. As soon as you lose that belief in what you can and cannot do, your team and the people around you lose that belief as well. The key for everything is belief and you have to go at everything whole heartedly. Research, make sure there’s substance and make sure there’s a solid venture in your proposition.

    What would be your ultimate end game?

    I honestly haven’t thought about it. My overall objective is to win. In short term, the legacy will be left in victory and if anyone asked how or what I did it will be ‘He smashed it’.

    Great interview Charles. From all the team at Raw Business we wish you every continued success with your entrepreneurial journey.

    i know charles gordon..... he used to deal with su ellise from mysteeeq... he owns credence estate agents......he used to own an aston and before that a ferrari, always had nice cars

    hmmm.... always thought his dad set him up in the property game.... his dad is a big face in Brixton, had an estate agents for years.... Done bird for money laundering, when the feds raided his estate agents he had £500,000 in the safe....... a lot of the Jamaican roadmen bought properties through him...really nice and humble man

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  3. Formula 1 2011 season official topic

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    some people in here talking claptrap as usual..... you really gotta laugh at people that cant see in perspective....

    the same aggressive driving Lewis that got Lewis knocked out yesterday is the same aggressive driving that he used to get a drive in formula one...... its the same aggressive style that got him his first drivers championship..... its the same aggressive style that he used to boy Alonso....

    certain man in here read one or two back pages and start chat fraf....

    people acting like all of a sudden Lewis started to drive aggressively when hes been doing that and making high risk maneuvers from the day he entered F1...

    I remember people were saying exactly the same thing about Vettel when he had a few crashes.... well guess why he is champ and Webber is not

    The same thing they applaud you for when you are successful is the same thing they will use to criticize you when you fail

    When he came to F1 people were excited because they said his driving style was the closet to Schumacker ......

    everyone loved Schumakker when he was winning but the minute he had a shunt..."hes too dangerous hes too aggressive, hell kill someone"

    In the past two seasons the only drivers who seem to genuinely want to beat Vettel are Lewis , Alonso and Webber the rest are happy just to be on the podium.

    Saying Lewis shouldnt be so aggressive is just as stupid as saying Button shouldnt drive so smoothly...

  5. Pastors Spend $225 million on Private Jets

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    Nigerians. Had this argument bare times with them. Why is your pastor driving a range sport. "he deserves it fir what he does. Where does it say in the bible pastors have to be poor." ok then how does he afford it *silence*

    I feel no sympathy for those idiots.... theres one church called winners in Lagos the congregation is about 10,000 deep....

    from when you are poor and giving ten percent of your salary (tithe) to the church and your pastor has a private jet and you still cant see that hes taking you for a c*nt you deserve no sympathy....

    obviously if there is a hell these men will rot in there alongside all the catholic pedophile priests

  18. GOIN FACES

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    look i tried not to say nuttin but cant bothered to hold it in

    personally nems i think ur full of sh*t, u sound like one them guys who knows alot but dont live it,

    owned a club, REALLY but wont say what one or no deets or nothing? sounds like bollox

    and u claimed a A5 which i said was bollox and u choose not to prove that either

    u can say all u like that u dont need E-rating etc but anyone could claim anything, proof is the diference

    to me i dont think it could really be true, lets be honest man beat the ting after u twice and u negotiated ur safety on road?

    a man like that having part of a club in my mind would get knapped on a weekly, bare pressure man dem up in the place taking the piss

    tables after partys paying for nothing, i seen what it takes to keep the wolves at bay when hawks and them had question bar on coldharbour lane, i dont think ur built like that...

    this aint a send its my opinion. i invite you to prove me otherwise if you can and i truely hope u do

    coz this is as bad as lying about p*ssy if not worse,

    as in they done there ting, and kept them at bay, handled it right

    all what ur saying is smart talk and that but proves nothing,

    I know how to make a cake, it don't make me a chef ^_)

    Bruv lets be serious for a second.... Im seeing an exposure topic on the frontpage with man talking about how hes banging a next mans girl, when you dont but your personal business online sh*t like that dont happen to you, we all have stupid sh*t weve done , people that dont like us etc if man knows your name the next thing you know some c*nt is putting your business out there spreading lies about you..

    you post a pic of your car mans gonna say it aint yours or its a rental, post a pic of your girl mans gonna say hes banged her or even worse them online detectives are gonna try hunt out her deets and start sh*t.....

    unless you are doing it for financial gain putting out your personal business on the net is a mugs game even worse doing it just because someone you dont know or dont care about wants to call you a liar makes you an even bigger mug...

    maybe you thought i was trying to give it the big talk by saying i owned a club to me i was just telling the truth

    the real point i was trying to make is certain things are easily achievable if your 'e focused, I know a lot of people with the £20k car £5k watch spending at least £500 a weekend on raving...if I got the right deal i could open a bar for under £15k if i really wanted to

    Sometimes when you want to do a project certain people will shoot it down and give you a million reasons why it will fail and why it wont work, you sound like one of those guys and i aint sending, people with that attitude will never succeed...

    my philosophy is if it fails so f*ck*ng what? ....ive been broke before i know what it feels like ill be broke again and climb back up the ladder

    the most difficult part of business sometimes is not raising the money or having the know how and acumen its having confidence in yourself and finding the motivation to see through your plans while 90% of the people around you think you will flop and actually hope for it

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  19. GOIN FACES

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    look i tried not to say nuttin but cant bothered to hold it in

    personally nems i think ur full of sh*t, u sound like one them guys who knows alot but dont live it,

    owned a club, REALLY but wont say what one or no deets or nothing? sounds like bollox

    and u claimed a A5 which i said was bollox and u choose not to prove that either

    u can say all u like that u dont need E-rating etc but anyone could claim anything, proof is the diference

    to me i dont think it could really be true, lets be honest man beat the ting after u twice and u negotiated ur safety on road?

    a man like that having part of a club in my mind would get knapped on a weekly, bare pressure man dem up in the place taking the piss

    tables after partys paying for nothing, i seen what it takes to keep the wolves at bay when hawks and them had question bar on coldharbour lane, i dont think ur built like that...

    this aint a send its my opinion. i invite you to prove me otherwise if you can and i truely hope u do

    coz this is as bad as lying about p*ssy if not worse,

    you sound upset bruv.....LOL

    firstly im not going to drop the name of the place because all you would need to do was google it and through the council licensing aplications commitee hearings which for some reason are cached online you could find out my government name alongside one of my former partners so that aint happening...i dont put my mug on the net, my facebook email and i definiitely aint posting no pictures....sorry to dissapoint

    secondly out of all the clubs that you know, how many club owners do you know?...... nine times out of ten your average raver might know the promoter even the manager but most club owners stay in the background so you debating whether im built for the drama that comes with running a club is a bit of a silly point

    when you first apply for a license from the council you will get a visit from the feds in the form of the borough licensing unit and a safer neighbourhoods team if they have one, first thing they do is take names of everyone involved(obviously to run your deets) and bearing in mind they think everything is on point they wont oppose your licensing application

    the first thing they will tell you is something that you have pointed out man will test you , unfortunately what you said happened at your friends place is common and ive heard much worse.... they will tell you that a club or bar is only as strong as the people running the door, whether the club owner is an OG or a neek dont come into it as much..

    The first thing you do is have a Face at the door, that is more important than any hench doorman....and we had a face at our door so we werent violated , obviously we had the usual drama but that was it... area dons will always show more respect to a face rather than any random security also when you have a face at the door he knows the man them that he will let in without queuing , that can get in for free or get a discount on bottles, thats how the politics of the game is the face knows who gets looked after and who doesnt..

    Im not from Brixton or those sides but im quite shocked you mentioned that Hawk was having problems running that place, I assume you are talking about Hawk that does security and If God forbid I was running a place around there he is the first Face I would have thought of.. If i couldnt get Hawk I would have got Cliff who knows everyone, or even the Twins ..... I doubt its the same Hawk because this guy and his firm are good

  20. GOIN FACES

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    As a budding business man myself, I can only but laugh at what Nemisis wrote.

    I wish there was time for me to break down his post.

    anyway.

    f*ck brisco.

    Thats the difference you are attempting to be a business man.

    I am a businessman.

    There is a big difference between theory and practice my friend....

    just playing lol... Im not claiming to be a know all about business and i am pretty sure that you could teach me one or two things because I honestly never studied business ,but if you honestly dont know that most business start ups involve some sort of borrowing then I dont know what to tell you my friend

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  21. Balotelli Appreciation Thread

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    MARIO BALOTELLI should get a Heart of Gold from ESTHER RANTZEN.

    The Manchester City star helped a young autograph hunter being picked on at school - by confronting the bully himself.

    The striker questioned why the young lad was playing truant with his mum outside the club's Carrington training ground rather than attending school.

    After the fan revealed that he was being bullied, Mario drove the youngster and his mum over to the school in question and demanded a meeting with the headteacher.

    The Blues ace got the youngster to confess what had been happening and made him identify the culprit. The lads eventually shook hands before Mario got into his white Maserati and sped off.

    A source said: "Mario feels strongly about bullying and thinks it's out of order.

    "He had no qualms about sorting the mess out as he felt the lad should not be missing out on school."

    top guy

  22. GOIN FACES

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    I know that stuff & I've never ran a nightclub, not doubting, but just saying.

    Ive done concerts and Ive done clubs.... im not really bothered if people believe me or not.... the club thing i wouldnt do again because the licensee didnt have a f*ck*ng clue and we had to go before the commitee three times before we could get decent hours, the manager was a thief and i ended spending half of my time flying from Lagos to keep an eye on things because the other two seemed to be more interested in banging girls than keeping their eye on the business

    Like I said I wasn't doubting.

    bruv im i didnt say you were.... even if you think im lying im not offended ... a lot of people will assume you are lying if you say ive done this or that i drive this i work here etc..... thats why you get people asking you to take a picture of the dash of your car because they find it hard to believe you own a bloody A5...lol

    I put £25k into it....was supposed to be £20k.in the grand scheme of things that aint a lot of money if you know what i mean.... your average shotta could do that and not even blink.... funny thing is though if i said i was signing on living in a bedsit in hackney no one would doubt me lol

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    LOL..... funny guy

    reading some of the comments in a way is quite funny and sad

    25k aint a lot of money when it comes to setting up a business and if you are looking at that kind of money as unobtainable you will never make it

    most business startups are funded by debt not savings....... the way a business man thinks is not "i dont have the money to do this" but "how can i finance this idea"..... if you are not ready to go into debt you will never make it in business

    ill even be honest with you i didnt have the 25k lying in an account....i sold my house because i was moving to lagos used £15k from that and then i applied for a £7k car loan from my bank as i knew it would be easier to get than a business loan..

    Levi roots didnt have the money to set up reggae sauce but he went banging on doors till he did , look at him now.....

    It depends on what you want to do with your life....I dont want to work for anyone and im not on the hustling tip, so i focus on making my money work for me......

    its all about your mentality... I know the guy that owned just fabulous TV...guy grew up on a council estate in Lewisham with his mum, hes now a multimillionaire with a penthouse in the docklands......trust me when i tell you he aint that bright, he was just determined and had balls, it is what it is.... and no i aint showing you a picture of my console LOL

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  23. GOIN FACES

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    I know that stuff & I've never ran a nightclub, not doubting, but just saying.

    Ive done concerts and Ive done clubs.... im not really bothered if people believe me or not.... the club thing i wouldnt do again because the licensee didnt have a f*ck*ng clue and we had to go before the commitee three times before we could get decent hours, the manager was a thief and i ended spending half of my time flying from Lagos to keep an eye on things because the other two seemed to be more interested in banging girls than keeping their eye on the business

    Like I said I wasn't doubting.

    bruv im i didnt say you were.... even if you think im lying im not offended ... a lot of people will assume you are lying if you say ive done this or that i drive this i work here etc..... thats why you get people asking you to take a picture of the dash of your car because they find it hard to believe you own a bloody A5...lol

    I put £25k into it....was supposed to be £20k.in the grand scheme of things that aint a lot of money if you know what i mean.... your average shotta could do that and not even blink.... funny thing is though if i said i was signing on living in a bedsit in hackney no one would doubt me lol

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  24. GOIN FACES

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    I know that stuff & I've never ran a nightclub, not doubting, but just saying.

    Ive done concerts and Ive done clubs.... im not really bothered if people believe me or not.... the club thing i wouldnt do again because the licensee didnt have a f*ck*ng clue and we had to go before the commitee three times before we could get decent hours, the manager was a thief and i ended spending half of my time flying from Lagos to keep an eye on things because the other two seemed to be more interested in banging girls than keeping their eye on the business

  25. GOIN FACES

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    nemesis is either a guy alot of ppl could learn stuff from on here or a f*ck*ng liar.

    bruv i know everything about running clubs as to where you display your schedule B how many security per head feds expect you to have , whether the personal licenses holder needs to be present while your selling alcohol..... and what kind of customers spend the most money..

    i bullshit you not

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