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"Animals are a major group of organisms, classified as the kingdom Animalia or Metazoa. In general they are multi­cellular, responsive to their environment, and feed by consuming other organisms or parts of them. ..."I assume she read animals as us being BASE and without reason, emotion or complex thought process..

Them qualifications there.

nope. wrong. we are not just animals we are far different to animals.Dissapointing you chose to pick up on that one thing and ignore the rest.I said that very simply, of course we are not ANIMALS.ORGANISMS then, if you choose to be pedantic...

OkHotel Rwanda to me was a DEEP film, it showed some real sh*t that is actually happening and made you think, + it had great performances from the actors involved, it may not get your heat racing 100 miles a minute, but it was as good a film as it could have been.Hot Fuzz, was good IMO, watchable more than once.........If you are a Simon Pegg fan, and you liked Spaced etc...youll like that.."We're already FIRM friends" It never got me emotional at all.Just made me think, "oh I'm lucky".Could have been executed a bit better.Yeh thats the point? I mean it dont have to make you cry but it reached you in some way yea, if you at least think "f*ck im lucky that aint me"..?I agree it maybe could have been executed better, but it didn thave a huge buget..Meh, I still think its good though.Last kign of scotland is also on togight, will make swift topic, its good if you aint seen it =\

It's what everyone wants.No point in arguing if you arent trying to prove your right....*steps back*pointless to prove you're right when talking to someone knowing they won't change their minds as religious will stay religious and atheist will stay atheistdo you honestly think vip2 will change someone's belief's, whether he does or doesnt believe in religions ?the whole concept of this thread is stupid (yet i'm taking part in it lol)I dont think a sharing/debate abot peopels views is stupid, noone is beign disrespectful really so its cool.He USED to be religious, so obviously people can change, similarly I know people that WERENT religios, but then became..

LMFAO.This happens with me @ elephantBut then it is foolish to expect a mere man to have all the answers. They regurgitate what they are told, they arent likely to know more than you.

beg u do some further research rudeboyim not talking about goths who listen to marilyn mansonlol @ beleiving in revenge, come like its a way of life@ Social, its very very very very very extreme to call anyone a satanist/evil.As I said before, I do not know of anyone that is evil, not in relation to God anyway..Obviously by in relation I do not mean that God is evil, I mean in speaking from the pov that god exists.Infact, even maybe from that he doesnt.

It's what everyone wants.No point in arguing if you arent trying to prove your right....*steps back*

Once you admit you know NOTHING, then you have realised some truth.

Some people need to step through the doorway marked "Reality"Life is not a hip-hop song...

OkHotel Rwanda to me was a DEEP film, it showed some real sh*t that is actually happening and made you think, + it had great performances from the actors involved, it may not get your heat racing 100 miles a minute, but it was as good a film as it could have been.Hot Fuzz, was good IMO, watchable more than once.........If you are a Simon Pegg fan, and you liked Spaced etc...youll like that.."We're already FIRM friends"

We are just animals..We fullfill a role within this ecosystem as do mice, worms, spiders etc..Because we can speak etc I do not see it as making us any different....Boy, if Mice have the same after life fate as us, then thats cool...

taxes keeps "THEM" above "US"we cant tax them for sh*t, they tax us for whatever they wantgo watch MTV initHow do I join the Veople cos this kinda stuff has really been interesting me recentlyI am ntosure if ur a group that actully holds these values or jsut a joke Its no joke..

Very true, kind of amuses me when people try to brign Logic into the argument IN FAVOUR of religion..

ministers of satan is the only explanationLOL sounds like some rap lyric.But you honestly me questioning and expressing is me working for the Devil. That's very ignorant if you do famcome on man,u know u been doing a lot more than that for months nowu been trying to rally troops against God read back yr posts if u dont believe mebare satanic rhetoricNah you taking things to literall SocialI was like this before too, jus used to cuss man out n be like god aint real etc..Then I just realised it was pointless, If I indeed manage to talk someone out of them beleiving in God, all I am doing is robbing them of their faith, which I do not see as being a good thingHe isnt rallying peopel AGAISNT God, he is rallying people against Bullshit & The lies told by people in the guise of "Gods will"Its somethign that he & others are pasisonate about innit, the same way someoen ahs the right to post about their love of god, he has the righ tot post about his disbeleif, obviously because of the teachings imposed on everyone, he comes across as "evil" when he is merely stating what he beleives..yeah and my perception of God = good and devil = evil leads me to believe that if these are two opposite forces and he is preaching against one then it is for the benefit of the othernow the guy is asking for personal miracles,that is vanity i can see his horns from hereCuriostity/Anger, not Vanity?The word Evil has absolutely huge implications, I do not know, or know of anyone that I can say was/is evil, ever.If you could give me some examples Id be grateful/willing to discuss themSurely your beleif in God should lead you to beleive he isnt evil or in favour of Satan, but just wants answers?Often when people have been religious for however many years, then find out to them its all a sham, they are gonna be angry, and they want answers, and you get answers by asking..& if you are a very practical person, you will not take somethign simply on the word of another, you will need proof of it yourself...hence the "asking for miracles"

So he's gonna turn his back on you by sending you to burn in Hell ETERNALLY??WHAT KIND OF LOVING GOD DOES THAT???? Seriously though.So if my son misbehaves am I gonna turn my back on him?? Or roast him in the grill??Come on, that's unreasonable, any method to control society.True.BUt then it also says "God forgives everyone"So I would assume, when you die, and look upon god, you realise the error of your ways.You were as an ignorant child before, not knowing what you did.BUt when you die, you see the face of god etc, know all you did and realised how it was wrong, and you repent.I doubt anyone could actually go to hell in reality you know..I meanThere are people who are not SANE. Who arent too responsbole for their actionsThere are people who are LOST, like these kids killing eachother....they really do not understand sh*t, COMPLETELY LOST.There are other things, But i do not see how peopel can be punished completely for either of these two options...I think people often fall at the first hurdle with Religion by even trying to understand God, and others fall when trying to EXPLAIN God wishes, when they know just as much as the person tying to understand.You shouldnt take the word of MAN as the word of God.again...D/AThen God should show me suttin himself, rather than depending upon these criminals to spread ''his word'', but yet Imma pay the price because I learned to think outside of the box (according to them, I read what you said still). Don't make sense to me.If there is a God then even HE should respect this, if he really is as understanding as he's supposed to be).And what the f*ck you mean by Devil's Advocate/D.A LOL?lol, Devils advocate, Creating debate for the sake of it, as in, it isnt what I actualyl beleive, but cuz there is some religios answer for your argumentPerhaps god WILL show you?Perhaps this conversation is him trying to show you? You got bare years ahead of you, who knows what will happen between now & then?The Bible says do not test your God...But yea, religion & Faith are diff things.The sh*t that most people spout I would class as crap, but then they could just be doing the devils work?If you know in your heart that you feel something you shouldnt let the words of another effect that@ The end of the day I do not follow to closely the words of other Men in terms of preists etc, because I beleive they rarely look at thigns form an objective point of view, and they are MEN, same as me, they are no more knowledgeable about anything than I am, they merely BELEIVE they are IMO.Like i mean, you had faith in GOD right? Why let RELIGION ruin that?d/a lol.

ministers of satan is the only explanationLOL sounds like some rap lyric.But you honestly me questioning and expressing is me working for the Devil. That's very ignorant if you do famcome on man,u know u been doing a lot more than that for months nowu been trying to rally troops against God read back yr posts if u dont believe mebare satanic rhetoricNah you taking things to literall SocialI was like this before too, jus used to cuss man out n be like god aint real etc..Then I just realised it was pointless, If I indeed manage to talk someone out of them beleiving in God, all I am doing is robbing them of their faith, which I do not see as being a good thingHe isnt rallying peopel AGAISNT God, he is rallying people against Bullshit & The lies told by people in the guise of "Gods will"Its somethign that he & others are pasisonate about innit, the same way someoen ahs the right to post about their love of god, he has the righ tot post about his disbeleif, obviously because of the teachings imposed on everyone, he comes across as "evil" when he is merely stating what he beleives..

Tbh, i see no irony, as i said i am open to all views and opinions on the matter, they dont get aired like some guys are doing now.And about the alien/repltilian business, im not that far into reading up, and at the moment i dont actually believe in all that, it falls into a different section than Illuminati/Freemasonary, its just one of the facts stated from a website i was reading.Thing is..You say they are FACTS, but many things are as much facts as the bible-simply the word of another man.You do not know certain peoples motivations for thinking/saying certain things, or the state of mind they are in at the time.I AM AWARE of certain things, but I never so blindly take every word of something that someone has said as the absolute truth, do you not see that is the exact same thing you were condemming religious people for in the other thread?I aint gonna lie thats a good point, hey are all "facts" then, you just gotta think about it and realise what makes more sense and what doesn't.And there are alot of illuminati issues which i dont fullt believe, and alot i do, i dont just read it all and automatically believe itss true, il do research into it before i start believing things. Im open to everything like seriouss.That is true.However, how old are you?Do you honestly think you are in a better placed position-having done..how much research? Do disprove/prove anything to be correct given that people over thousands of years have been through this and researched for themselves?Do you not think that you may infact be conditioned to think what does & does not make sense?That this is infact, somethign to cover a BIGGER conspiracy?Wisdom is not easily gained over a few months browsing of the internet, its a lifetime thing.I Do agree with the things about religion of course, but then the polar opposite is just as ludicrous.If WE the PEOPLE change, then Illuminati, Freemasons, will all mean nothing.People only have power of you as long as you let them..I dont think im in a better placed position than anyone on here, everyones opinions should be heard, and all im doing is discussing what i think. And im 18.yea yea man I didnt mean to come across like I was tellin you to shutap lol, just offering an alternative point of view..I think your thirst for knowledge is very admirable (no homo, no con-den-sending) Just try to consider ALL angles...

So he's gonna turn his back on you by sending you to burn in Hell ETERNALLY??WHAT KIND OF LOVING GOD DOES THAT???? Seriously though.So if my son misbehaves am I gonna turn my back on him?? Or roast him in the grill??Come on, that's unreasonable, any method to control society.True.BUt then it also says "God forgives everyone"So I would assume, when you die, and look upon god, you realise the error of your ways.You were as an ignorant child before, not knowing what you did.BUt when you die, you see the face of god etc, know all you did and realised how it was wrong, and you repent.I doubt anyone could actually go to hell in reality you know..I meanThere are people who are not SANE. Who arent too responsbole for their actionsThere are people who are LOST, like these kids killing eachother....they really do not understand sh*t, COMPLETELY LOST.There are other things, But i do not see how peopel can be punished completely for either of these two options...I think people often fall at the first hurdle with Religion by even trying to understand God, and others fall when trying to EXPLAIN God wishes, when they know just as much as the person tying to understand.You shouldnt take the word of MAN as the word of God.again...D/A

I thoguht Hot Fuzz was good, thoguh it was completely different to what everyone expected it to be.Hotel Rwanda I would say was sick, and shooter average I guess we were looking for different things though..

Tbh, i see no irony, as i said i am open to all views and opinions on the matter, they dont get aired like some guys are doing now.And about the alien/repltilian business, im not that far into reading up, and at the moment i dont actually believe in all that, it falls into a different section than Illuminati/Freemasonary, its just one of the facts stated from a website i was reading.Thing is..You say they are FACTS, but many things are as much facts as the bible-simply the word of another man.You do not know certain peoples motivations for thinking/saying certain things, or the state of mind they are in at the time.I AM AWARE of certain things, but I never so blindly take every word of something that someone has said as the absolute truth, do you not see that is the exact same thing you were condemming religious people for in the other thread?I aint gonna lie thats a good point, hey are all "facts" then, you just gotta think about it and realise what makes more sense and what doesn't.And there are alot of illuminati issues which i dont fullt believe, and alot i do, i dont just read it all and automatically believe itss true, il do research into it before i start believing things. Im open to everything like seriouss.That is true.However, how old are you?Do you honestly think you are in a better placed position-having done..how much research? Do disprove/prove anything to be correct given that people over thousands of years have been through this and researched for themselves?Do you not think that you may infact be conditioned to think what does & does not make sense?That this is infact, somethign to cover a BIGGER conspiracy?Wisdom is not easily gained over a few months browsing of the internet, its a lifetime thing.I Do agree with the things about religion of course, but then the polar opposite is just as ludicrous.If WE the PEOPLE change, then Illuminati, Freemasons, will all mean nothing.People only have power of you as long as you let them.. They want your1.Mind2.Soul& Your body

Hmmmm, dunno about that.God created people KNOWING what ''free will'' would do to them. So since this God is ''all knowing'', WHY DOES HE STILL GET SURPRISED and throw tantrums??Any fairytales.he is disappointedplus he can do wat he likes moretimeWhy wopuld he be disappointed though? He didn't have to give people ''free will'' in the first place, let alone create humans.I mean ain't he all-powerful, all knowing, all loving (KMT, yea right), and ALL PERFECT?!He shouldn't need us im the first place, him being a COMPLETE BEING and everything.*devils adv*He didnt have to give peopel free will, but for out sake he didPeople have different roads they can go down, and god knows where each of them leadsit is YOUR choice which one to followA.) Rape A bitchB.) Bun datYou could take path A, god knows where it will lead you, and does not want you to take it, the devil however, doesB, is what god wants, and he knows where that will lead, and it is your choice to take it..But if that's the case then he's putting people in danger of going to ''Hell fiyah'', which is also somehow...Some loving God eh LOL, like he wants an excuse to toast some people, even though he knew that'll be the case. The punishment should fit the crime famYes I agree, however*D.A.*You have been told what to do in this life, it is merely a test, you know that God has given you a choice, and if you decide to turn your back on him in this life, he will his back on you in the next. we need some religion for guidance, we need to learn about god from somewhere. But nobody knows all the answers that doesnt mean we should just stop believing.science is no different. We cannot guarantee certainty.But it doesnt mean we abandon it.I disagree completelyI do not look for religion for guidance, I posted what I follow a page back I think, anyhow, Common Sense, I beleive it is called.Science is the pursuit of knowledge through research, not the Illusion of wisdom through Dogma.

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Tbh, i see no irony, as i said i am open to all views and opinions on the matter, they dont get aired like some guys are doing now.And about the alien/repltilian business, im not that far into reading up, and at the moment i dont actually believe in all that, it falls into a different section than Illuminati/Freemasonary, its just one of the facts stated from a website i was reading.Thing is..You say they are FACTS, but many things are as much facts as the bible-simply the word of another man.You do not know certain peoples motivations for thinking/saying certain things, or the state of mind they are in at the time.I AM AWARE of certain things, but I never so blindly take every word of something that someone has said as the absolute truth, do you not see that is the exact same thing you were condemming religious people for in the other thread?

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