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I think it should stay here cos technically it's not about Eminem's MusicIt's more about what people think of that controversial Freestyle If it does turn into bullshit just close it I'm waiting...Hasn't turned into racism or nothin just people discussing it properly

Buy true fans of Hip Hop he was embraced cos of his talent, unique story (no other Artist has addressed his life on full blast like Em) and the fact he made Hit records that appealed to people that don't typically like raw and Lyrical Hip HopIf it was his colour only why aren't Paul Wall, Bubba, Sparxx, Asher Roth etc embraced and sold as many records as him?He is respected by his peers and fans not just cos of his talent and work but also cos he had a different story to your other typical Lyrical MC's he talked about somethin that no 1 else did no hold barred just spoke his mind No 1 said he wasn't mainstream but you are aware he was underground way before he was mainstream he had an independent album in 1996 and was runner up in the Rap Olympics in 1997 -SMH @ people that don't know the facts

thisand lol at saying 'if he was black he would be more rated' thts possible the biggest load of bullshit ive heard today. Nah but listen to what the legend Rakim said regarding that 'If Em was blk he would be the Mohammed Ali of Hip Hop' Who's gonna argue with Rakim?

Explain?Basically my intial point was if you were a fan of Em and are blk after you heard the Freestyle that came out How did that change your perception of him and his legacy as a Hip Hop ArtistI can't answer that cos i'm white

Mixtapes? Jesus Christ Em has never realeased an official Mixtape He has an EP and album's

-SMH

co signHow can man be racist when his best friend Proof was blk and after he died he even got a tattoo to honour his memory he pretty much was raised around blks cos Detroit is somethin like 80% blk populatedI'm not saying what he said in da Freestyle he made wen he was 15 was right at all but everyone makes mistakes especially wen they emotional over a girl

I always liked his voice but i like Lyrics, content, beats and creativity and timless Music Lose Yourself is sh*t?You won't be addressed again

You obviously have never heard an Eminem album His albums sound nothing like his comedy Singles Infact you obviously have never even heard more then 1 Song from him i bet cos he has even dropped some classic hard Hip Hop Singles like 'Lose Yourself' It's a fact that majority of his Music is hard, Lyrical personal material with a few comedy Singles to sell more recordsIf you listened you would know his content is quite dark

He's 1 of the richest Musicians you seriously think he still is in the bizness for money? he has da clothing line and other thingsHe is doing it for the passion and cos the fans wanna hear him he isn't the highest selling Rap Artist ever for no reasonHe never even oficially retired he focused on promoting the people on his record label

Nah cos 8 Mile was set around 1995 when he was coming up in the scene with Proof (portrayed by Mekhi Phifer)The blk girl he talked about on Yellow Brik Road was from his high skool daysIf anything Britney Murphy was suppose to be Kim

I think it should stay here cos technically it's not about Eminem's MusicIt's more about what people think of that controversial Freestyle If it does turn into bullshit just close it

Let me actually clarify what i meant by people respecting Eminem for his struggle Basically he is from the same kinda poverty that a lotta blk people in the City are he grew up in the culture in Detroit so of course people can respect he experienced hardships like themAs far as respecting him being real Eminem only Rap's about his life and what he experienced so that's why i'm saying he is not pretending to be someone he isn't e.g. former drug dealer turned RapperHe does him and people loved him for being himself which was a poor white trailor trash drug user from Detroit

Willesden NWMaybe people in Brixton don't think thiis about Eminem or whatever but i know a lotta blk people who actually believe Eminem is the best or atleast 1 of the best everLike some people say if Em was actually blk imagine how much more highly he would be rated

A lotta Hip Hop fans i know majority who are blk said Eminem was the greatest ever, always bumped his music, respected his struggle and just liked the fact he was so talented but real like he wasn't fake he Rapped about his actual life etcThen i think in 2004 or whatever year there was rumors of Eminem dissing blk's on an old Tape he made wen he was 15 years old cos he broke up with a girl he was young, immature blah blah he apologized for it But now i see a lotta people who have heard this are holding it against him even though a lotta people aren't even aware of this old Freestyle he made cos it's only on the internetthe exact quote was'Don't date blk girls cos they only date you for your money, white girls are good'To me Eminem is a cultural icon to both blk people and whites who love Hip Hop he just was angry his girl cheated on him and young when he said what he did in that Freestyle tapeCommon sense tells you he said that cos a blk girl he was dateing cheated on him for a guy who had more money and he found out his pride was hurt so to vent his anger he recorded that

london aint all dat. n fuk other cultures unless the chiks r tryin 2 get down. lookin to start on french. arab n muslim chiks soon. man needs 2 expand ya get me.Do you know how many Arabs there are around Marble Arch

Heard they begging Blood in places like Machesteryou herd wrong bro... strictly london ya hear!Put it this way if a top LA Blood or Crip was gonna start the thing in this country where do you think he would start it? you guessed it London since we are the most urban City Not co signing da Bloods here doe Just sayingyou dumb c*ntITS COS LONDON IS WHERE THE MONEY IS AT IN ANYTHINGNever said it wasn't read what i said

Looks kinda like Benzino

Heard they begging Blood in places like Machesteryou herd wrong bro... strictly london ya hear!Put it this way if a top LA Blood or Crip was gonna start the thing in this country where do you think he would start it? you guessed it London since we are the most urban City Not co signing da Bloods here doe Just saying

Even if it wasn't the capital of this country it would still be the best City Like Washington is da capital of America but theres way better Cities there then thatWhen people go Holland they go Amsterdam and when people go Italy they go Milan, when people go Brazil they go visit RioJust like wen people visit England it's an epic fail if they do not visit London we are a tourist City

Heard they begging Blood in places like Machester

Lol @ living outside London if you gonna live in England I can understand living in places like Surrey or even Slough which are just outsideBut anywhere else is an epic failLondon >>>>>>>>>> UK a melting pot of every culture

Begs noInfluenced yesWearing a Ralph Lauren Polo is not begging just cos it is AmericanDa only begging is the Bloods out here that have no links or ties to LA Bloods that claim they are beggingBut i heard there are Bloods in other parts of the country too

Unless you're one of them brers still rocking an Avirex and Roccawear Jeans and feel no way to buss your Tims then I can't see how you can really be sticking by this point.thats a stupid statement... like to say this is still the standard US dress code and UK has moved on... UK STILL CAT FROM THE US AS FAR AS SWAGGER IS CONCERNED UNLESS YOUR A PIKEY OR SOMTHINGno its not. US GENERALLY still dressed like that uk dont. snmIS uk influenced by the US hood tho... no... Influenced by there hood celebs EG rappers etc... only london brehs are ignorant enough to believe they have there own identity in 09london does have its own identity tho, obviously it has influences from other places so does everything. but london isnt like wherever ur from sorry.No it aint and thank god...end of the day rest of the uk cats london. not even debateable. /thread imoyeah but london cats everywhere... only thing you can claim the rest of uk catting is cockney slangbruv everything that is done on an urban scale starts in london then filters to the rest of the uktheres not ONE thing u man do that london start to copy. its not a big deal its jus how the uk is set up. let it go innitNo everything is done in america then filtered to london... then filtered to the rest of uk... london dont start sh*tBut it still means you are influenced by London cos it's like people in da rest of da country gotta wait tills it's acceptable to use American slang words like Fam in London and then the rest of the country can feel comfortable using it with out feel like they begging America cos London gave it da green light

But just cos i live here i don't feel i have to be insecure about wearing US brands like DKNY, Ralp Lauren, GAP, etc or US urban brands like Sean John, Nike etc Just like i won't feel insecure about wearing Italian brands like Pradatbh no great clothing brand comes from London or Uk though period no legendary brandyou agree Brisco?