John Galt

Do it and don't look back. As long as you keep this in mind, you should be cool.

It's a different experience. Nottingham isn't the worst place you could be.Everyone goes through different things. The main thing I would say is getting used to different ways of doing things. Some people may think it's cool to not shower every day or wash kitchen stuff with only hot water.You've gotta make your preferences known early on, so people know what you can and wont tolerate. But there must also be some compromise on your behalf.Depending on your current situation cooking and cleaning should not be a problem, just a continuation of what you already do.Only you can answer if it's worth it as it depends on your objectives for going out there and what you value. It's a great experience, new location, living on your own etc, but you could also get that experience (to an extent) if you moved to somewhere like South Woodford.

Will it be your first time away from home?What are your concerns?

Yes. Squatted right in the middle.Tried to show us a pic .... no thanks!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAGo for it. How do you get to leavesden from Kings Cross?

How much?pissed, its sold outI've got my ticket!

The last week of first year (when everyone was packing to go home) my flatmate broke into the flat next door stole everything from their kitchen and sh*t in their corridor.Disgusting.And they got the cleaning bill for it too.

Adeola?

Where are they from? Any download links?Thanks in advance.

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Not anymore. The opposite is becoming common.

I purposely did not offer a definition for what a "Mickey mouse" subject is, as it is relatively subjective. Depending on the purpose of study, I would not say sociology was a mickey mouse subject.Leaving her whole life behind?3 years is not that long. The geographic and cultural distance may make it seem like a big thing to do, but it's not impossible.I know guys that have not set foot in London or even England since attending uni in Scotland.Also, air flight is relatively cheap these days.

Maybe I didn't articulate the point well enough or you totally miss my point.Learning for the sake of learning is not a waste of funds.HOWEVER there are more cost effective methods of learning that simply going to uni.For example, I recently had a conversation with a friend of mine. He knew a girl that went to uni to study "Arabic and Middle Eastern" studies.However, when he got talking to the girl and after reviewing her course content, he found out that most of the things she was being taught was general knowledge that he picked up in his home country.So in this instance, she spent over £10k on getting her degree and learn some things.She could have spent £1000 for a return ticket to stay in (for example) Dubai or Saudi Arabia for 3 years. Got a job there and learnt the same things or similar things whilst enriching her life experience.Saving over £9k.

No it's not. Quite a few people get through.

I have limited knowledge in how universities obtain funding so the following is purely speculative ...Assume I am in university, studying chemistry, hoping to continue into postgraduate study.- The government injects £10m into 3 universities in their offering of a "Britishness" degree.- The chemistry department of my university is closing after next year as student numbers are low.I now no longer have the option of pursuing my postgraduate studies in Chemistry.Assume I cannot go to a university in another region owing to family commitments/lack of funds.- The job I have my heart set requires a postgraduate degree in Chemistry.- The job is in the region I live.I will now not be considered for this job as I do not have a postgraduate degree.This has been a hypothetical scenario, but very close to the truth for a relatively large amount of people I know or have come across.

Don't be fooled. If we are both applying for the same job and I had a Masters degree in Northerness and you have 3 years practical experience directly related to the role would I be in a better position?Of course not.A degree cannot be used as a blanket term to indicate success. As has been pointed out many times, it depends on the degree and what your future goals are. If I have a degree in Software Engineering and decide that I want to work as a plumber, I have NO CHANCE IN HELL of being chosen over someone who has no degree but experience. Because the roles are relatively similar. Ask him to apply for a role as a fitness instructor and see how helpful his degree is. Again, it depends on what you plan on doing with your life. Unfortunately not many 18 year olds know what they wish to do. If they have a rough idea and know they will need a degree in XYZ for their application, then by all means they should attend university.However, if they haven't got a clue, going to university and studying media and art for the sole purpose of getting "a degree" will not be the most efficient use of their time.

No it's not. Just use common sense.

Universities and (potential) students should remember that they are supposed to be higher education institutions.For example, if you want to learn about Northerness, go and live in Sheffield for a few years. You do not need a degree to learn about being Northern. No more than you need a degree to learn about the media.Media pioneers of 60/70 years ago did to achieve media studies (or comparable) degrees.If you take his word to be true, streets is a perfect example.Going to university for the sole purpose of biding some time is a waste of money. It can be argued that there are some life skills gained, people you meet and networks you create whilst at uni.This is true to some extent. If you want to gain life skills, move out once college/A'Level's are over and try to live on £500 a month.You can meet a diverse range of people if you decide to step out of your comfort zone and consciously choose to interact with people of a similar age group that you would not have considered. All university does is in effect force you to take the step.Networks can be created in almost any situation.It can also be argued that Universities are learning institutions and students can choose the university route as a method of learning. I would counter that by saying choosing what can be considered a "mickey mouse" degree for the sole purpose of learning is not efficient and is a waste of funds, which is what the original post was alluding to.

That is not what I was alluding to. !!!!

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That's not what is was alluding to.

http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jsp...paginator As you were.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAThe prejudiced views I hear from Nigerian parents never ceases to amaze me.

We do it better though It's not even all Nigerians. Just the mad hausa guys up north with Sharia law.That's how I know you don't really know much about what goes on there.The North is where MOST of the homo's are.And in the South they kill them too, despite no Shariah Law.The location of the homo's is of no concern to me.I know they get killed in the south, but the muslim guys go on militant. Are you telling me a faggot can be stoned on the street in Lagos and no-one will complain? Gay's are killed in the north like flies.

A 35 year old man getting smacked about by his dad is a failure.Are you 35?lol im 18. But wat u said about a 35 yr old man being a failure proves my point. U aint much if regularly get slapped around by your dad, it underminds you as a man.There is a world of difference between an 18 year old being slapped by his dad and a 35 year old man receiving the same treatment.Despite what you may think, even at 18 you still have alot to learn.