Kidulthood BBC 3 now

[Guest Esquilax]

nah i just think you lot know bum about films

so what you're saying ispeople who know a lot about films, think kidulthood is a great film?

Lol.Spastic.

[Frank Furta]

Why aint No sunshine mentioned Northern Ireland in in last 5 posts?/yeah im backing esqui.

[R1.]

lol guys getting em0tional like say he made the film

[NO SUNSHINE]

Why aint No sunshine mentioned Northern Ireland in in last 5 posts?/yeah im backing esqui.

llow me i'm not looking to get caught in the melee/didn't even realise i was in an argument with him tbh

[Guest Esquilax]

not arguin with anyone, discussin a filmbut certain comments are just ludicrous

[Frank Furta]

Dont have it Esqui.. lets make an argument.

[Guest Esquilax]

theres defintely nothing ludicrous about what ppl have saidi would like bullet points of ludicrous comments.

"So what you're saying ispeople who know alot about films, think kidulthood is great?"Ludicrous.

[NO SUNSHINE]

i was winding him up with that post anyway, which i assumed he would have clocked but apparently not

[Guest Esquilax]

people saying the film lacks direction and this being the cause of it's mediocritypeople saying supposedly middle class people are incapable of picking up a weapon after family tragedyidiotic small gripes like what jacket he's wearinggenerally trying to say this film should essentially be a fly on the wall documentary which is, in itself ludicrous, because this is a movie, its purpose is to entertain and create revenue, and you wont do that by making a bland story about a scuffle in morleysi dont see how anyone can disagree with my position on this, im not a HUGE fan of the movie, but some of the things said are unreasonableit's by no means an exceptional film, the acting isn't wonderful, some of the scenes are poorly executed/ shot, but still, i think this has now got to a point where neither party wants to concede that the other might be right so it's not going to go anywhereI liked it.

[Mr.Skeng]

Why aint No sunshine mentioned Northern Ireland in in last 5 posts?/yeah im backing esqui.

whats the deal with NO SUNSHINE?is he actually irish or just another plastic paddy?

[NO SUNSHINE]

why are people suddenly dropping my name for no reason?and i dunno what you mean about me being a 'plastic paddy' tbh

[Escapist]

I never got why they kept the scene with that "c*ck tease" looking for trainers in.It added nothing to the plot and it was just another dumb addition.

On the DVD in the deleted scenes bit he goes to visit her to give her purse back.Shes wasted and horny and throws herself at him, he thinks f*ck it and leaves to go to the party. still doesnt really add much to the plot though.

[Guest Esquilax]

no, you see its you who doesn't seem to be able to grasp what's going onim not saying a documentary should be made, look at what i wrote again and read it properlyim saying that people are criticising the film like it should have the realism OF a documentary, whereas its, once again i'll say, a film, the purpose is entertainment and revenue, allowances must be made

[NO SUNSHINE]

no, you see its you who doesn't seem to be able to grasp what's going onim not saying a documentary should be made, look at what i wrote again and read it properlyim saying that people are criticising the film like it should have the realism OF a documentary, whereas its, once again i'll say, a film, the purpose is entertainment and revenue, allowances must be made

yeah but the problem is that this was a film that was billed as being a movie that was going to open people's eyes to the gritty reality of life for young people in working class, multicultural London and it failed to deliverof course i understand your points about how difficult it is to actually create a film but if you compare this to something like Nil By Mouth (which is a masterpiece imo) I can't see why you're singing it's praises

[Guest Esquilax]

Let's go through the quote again shall we?

people saying the film lacks direction and this being the cause of it's mediocritypeople saying supposedly middle class people are incapable of picking up a weapon after family tragedyidiotic small gripes like what jacket he's wearinggenerally trying to say this film should essentially be a fly on the wall documentary which is, in itself ludicrous, because this is a movie, its purpose is to entertain and create revenue, and you wont do that by making a bland story about a scuffle in morleysi dont see how anyone can disagree with my position on this, im not a HUGE fan of the movie, but some of the things said are unreasonableit's by no means an exceptional film, the acting isn't wonderful, some of the scenes are poorly executed/ shot, but still, i think this has now got to a point where neither party wants to concede that the other might be right so it's not going to go anywhereI liked it.

I said what it comes across as, is people want this film to have realism to the LEVEL of a documentary, unachievable because of the reasons I've stated more than once.Out of my depth? Don't be a patronising wasteman.

[Angelo]

Cumon guise

[Mr.Skeng]

exquinox comes like the male verson of DMF

[Frank Furta]

Angelica annoys me. you know who you are.

[Guest Esquilax]

exquinox comes like the male verson of DMF

HAHAHAH!!!PLEASE dear, you think i give a sh*t about what you think? :rolleyes: the only thing that matters here is my apinion which is grate, so why would i care what a bunch of ego tisitical pricks on a forum think?I THINK NOT!

[Escapist]

exquinox comes like the male verson of DMF

HAHAHAH!!!PLEASE dear, you think i give a sh*t about what you think? :rolleyes: the only thing that matters here is my apinion which is grate, so why would i care what a bunch of ego tisitical pricks on a forum think?I THINK NOT!

lol

[Escapist]

shouldnt have made the film in west if they wanted to portrat the gritty inner city london.everyone knows its moist

[R1.]

dem trying to start a next argument guys there

[NO SUNSHINE]

exquinox comes like the male verson of DMF

HAHAHAH!!!PLEASE dear, you think i give a sh*t about what you think? :rolleyes: the only thing that matters here is my apinion which is grate, so why would i care what a bunch of ego tisitical pricks on a forum think?I THINK NOT!

nah but matewhat me and p.brisco are saying is, how come it is that things like The Wire and Nil By Mouth etc. can be made and be so realistic that they ARE essentially documentaries, but you're saying that this isn't achievable? also, basic things like the clothes people wear, the slang people use ARE ESSENTIAL. that's what makes the wire so good and not just another film/tv series which fails at properly representing the community it's based on. the amount of times when watching kidulthood you cringe or think "pfft that's just dumb" is stupid. you shouldn't have to suspend disbelief for a film that is supposed to be about real life.

[Guest Esquilax]

Yeah, alright percy, i concede, ure right, you have been all along

[Guest Esquilax]

the wire is a tv and is based primarily on real life events/ peoplekidulthood is completely fabricated, considering that, i think they did an ok job