RELIGION

[marlon]

EITHER THAT OR THEY MUST BE WHITE.YOU DONT GET BLACK PEOPLE SPEAKING DEM BIG WORDS.

True. Unless you are Trevor McDonald or Derrick from Big Brother.

You actually logged into your other account to say that lol. And theres no big words there wtf. What Juju and I are saying is kinda basic still. If Gray Fox was ere hed rip me to pieces for saying some of that still lol. Says more about you that you think that thats advanced.

[Ashman.]

EITHER THAT OR THEY MUST BE WHITE.YOU DONT GET BLACK PEOPLE SPEAKING DEM BIG WORDS.

True. Unless you are Trevor McDonald or Derrick from Big Brother.

You actually logged into your other account to say that lol. And theres no big words there wtf. What Juju and I are saying is kinda basic still. If Gray Fox was ere hed rip me to pieces for saying some of that still lol. Says more about you that you think that thats advanced.

That that that that that's advanced..listen, that is nothing to me, I am just saying it's a lot for you.

[Ashman.]

Lets be honest, people on here would talk differenly on road no matter what colour. Thats all i'm saying.

[juju]

lol @ cussing us for using big words when we're actually contributing to his own thread. this guy...lol @ me being whiteANOTHER THING@mr nice guy with respect to ur last post in the last twenty years society media education EVERYTHING in britain has been dumbed down anti intellectualism is everywhere at the same time church attendance is falling and less and less people know even the slightest bit about the bible, WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU??edit i didnt read the above 4 posts yet gimme time, lolre edit ok i made a proper mess of this post...im not saying that decline in faith has led to dumbing down of society what im saying is that if religion is there to keep people 'dumb' (u know what i mean long writing it all out) why hasnt the decline in faith caused a rise in intellectuallism? what ur saying about global/domestic levels doesnt apply here

Your presuming secularisation is taking place, when its debatable if infact it is. Also, even if it is, im not saying people are meant to be smarter when religion is in deline, im saying religion causes lower classes to feel theres nothing they can do regarding their station in life as they are putting all their faith in religion/god or something else they cant control.

explain, i woulda thought this wasn't even a point to debate

[Train]

lol @ cussing us for using big words when we're actually contributing to his own thread. this guy...lol @ me being whiteANOTHER THING@mr nice guy with respect to ur last post in the last twenty years society media education EVERYTHING in britain has been dumbed down anti intellectualism is everywhere at the same time church attendance is falling and less and less people know even the slightest bit about the bible, WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU??edit i didnt read the above 4 posts yet gimme time, lolre edit ok i made a proper mess of this post...im not saying that decline in faith has led to dumbing down of society what im saying is that if religion is there to keep people 'dumb' (u know what i mean long writing it all out) why hasnt the decline in faith caused a rise in intellectuallism? what ur saying about global/domestic levels doesnt apply here

Your presuming secularisation is taking place, when its debatable if infact it is. Also, even if it is, im not saying people are meant to be smarter when religion is in deline, im saying religion causes lower classes to feel theres nothing they can do regarding their station in life as they are putting all their faith in religion/god or something else they cant control.

explain, i woulda thought this wasn't even a point to debate

Its a massive point to debate. Erm, I dont know if I 100% believe what im saying in this topic, but I did in the past and I havnt given the subject much thought since then as I recognise that its one of those silly abstract things that people worry about but really, it wont affect the individual much (not everyine, just people in my position in life)But yea, people say that religion is on the decline but the whole theory is made due to the low attendance in churches and whatnoit.I mean, private worship is MUCH more predominant in modern society, compared to say 30 years ago. 30 years ago it was relativity non existant. So alot of people still believe in god, and carry the same values and traditions that say, Christianity advocates, but they just dont ACTIVELY practise it, ie church every sunday. Statistics dont take this into account. Also, if we were to take the same time period, 30 eyars ago, and compare how many religions there was in them days, we would probably see that there are ALOT more nowadays. And the previously small factions in respect of religions, are not not so small. So not only are new religions spurting up, but also the smaller ones are becoming more popular. Lastly, again say 30 eyars ago, it was more of a social pressure to be very religious, in this case Christian, so often youd find people saying they are Christian, and even attending church, but not REALLY believing it. So all the aforementioned downsides to ebing a religious person cannot be attached to these people. They had to be seen as religious as it was a sign of someone humility/humbleness. Im not sure if this is all true 100% but im more sure that religion is not on the decline. Excuse the poor English use if there is any, im abit lean.

[Ashman.]

lol @ cussing us for using big words when we're actually contributing to his own thread. this guy...lol @ me being whiteANOTHER THING@mr nice guy with respect to ur last post in the last twenty years society media education EVERYTHING in britain has been dumbed down anti intellectualism is everywhere at the same time church attendance is falling and less and less people know even the slightest bit about the bible, WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU??edit i didnt read the above 4 posts yet gimme time, lolre edit ok i made a proper mess of this post...im not saying that decline in faith has led to dumbing down of society what im saying is that if religion is there to keep people 'dumb' (u know what i mean long writing it all out) why hasnt the decline in faith caused a rise in intellectuallism? what ur saying about global/domestic levels doesnt apply here

Your presuming secularisation is taking place, when its debatable if infact it is. Also, even if it is, im not saying people are meant to be smarter when religion is in deline, im saying religion causes lower classes to feel theres nothing they can do regarding their station in life as they are putting all their faith in religion/god or something else they cant control.

explain, i woulda thought this wasn't even a point to debate

Its a massive point to debate. Erm, I dont know if I 100% believe what im saying in this topic, but I did in the past and I havnt given the subject much thought since then as I recognise that its one of those silly abstract things that people worry about but really, it wont affect the individual much (not everyine, just people in my position in life)But yea, people say that religion is on the decline but the whole theory is made due to the low attendance in churches and whatnoit.I mean, private worship is MUCH more predominant in modern society, compared to say 30 years ago. 30 years ago it was relativity non existant. So alot of people still believe in god, and carry the same values and traditions that say, Christianity advocates, but they just dont ACTIVELY practise it, ie church every sunday. Statistics dont take this into account. Also, if we were to take the same time period, 30 eyars ago, and compare how many religions there was in them days, we would probably see that there are ALOT more nowadays. And the previously small factions in respect of religions, are not not so small. So not only are new religions spurting up, but also the smaller ones are becoming more popular. Lastly, again say 30 eyars ago, it was more of a social pressure to be very religious, in this case Christian, so often youd find people saying they are Christian, and even attending church, but not REALLY believing it. So all the aforementioned downsides to ebing a religious person cannot be attached to these people. They had to be seen as religious as it was a sign of someone humility/humbleness. Im not sure if this is all true 100% but im more sure that religion is not on the decline. Excuse the poor English use if there is any, im abit lean.

The thing also, as we are comparing history to modern day life, history has shown how countries (especially England) have used relgion to punish people. If you did not obbey by the rules they would claim that in the name of God, you would have to be punished.Now acording to most writen biblical testimonies, it is writen that the only judge is God, if this is the truth, then it goes to show that religion does in fact play a bad part in society and maybe peoples' faith should be personaly practiced rather then as a 'cult'.

[PROFESSOR JOHN SMITH]

My opinion as of 29/12/2007. Although a year ago I believed it more, and a year before that, even more. Next year, who knows. Religion is one of the many tools used as part of the superstructure of society to make the lower classes feel a sense insubordinance to soemthing which then prepares them for insubordinance later in life. It can also be used to make uneducated people feel that dogmatic reasoning is a sufficiant and rational explaination for facts of life, thus causing them to lack the inquizitive nature they were born with, and which would arguably help them out later in life, hence them lacking a natural, helpful and important make up of being a successful human being and person. Its also used as a control mechanism and to make individuals fatalistic and lazy in nature.

so if you're not one of these uneducated people, and you're so inquisitive, what qualifications have you got then?what facts of life are you talking about ?

[Guest Onslaught]

Religion is false imo.

[Flat Eric]

God exists but religion is wrong.It divides people and causes death and hunger.Worship God in your own ways.All this "The only way to heaven is to believe in christ..all other religions go to hell" stuff is just plain rude IMO.I'd be a Buddhist if it came down to picking one religion. They ain't on no hype hype issh hpye hype issh

[PROFESSOR JOHN SMITH]

lol @ cussing us for using big words when we're actually contributing to his own thread. this guy...lol @ me being whiteANOTHER THING@mr nice guy with respect to ur last post in the last twenty years society media education EVERYTHING in britain has been dumbed down anti intellectualism is everywhere at the same time church attendance is falling and less and less people know even the slightest bit about the bible, WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU??edit i didnt read the above 4 posts yet gimme time, lolre edit ok i made a proper mess of this post...im not saying that decline in faith has led to dumbing down of society what im saying is that if religion is there to keep people 'dumb' (u know what i mean long writing it all out) why hasnt the decline in faith caused a rise in intellectuallism? what ur saying about global/domestic levels doesnt apply here

Your presuming secularisation is taking place, when its debatable if infact it is. Also, even if it is, im not saying people are meant to be smarter when religion is in deline, im saying religion causes lower classes to feel theres nothing they can do regarding their station in life as they are putting all their faith in religion/god or something else they cant control.

explain, i woulda thought this wasn't even a point to debate

Its a massive point to debate. Erm, I dont know if I 100% believe what im saying in this topic, but I did in the past and I havnt given the subject much thought since then as I recognise that its one of those silly abstract things that people worry about but really, it wont affect the individual much (not everyine, just people in my position in life)But yea, people say that religion is on the decline but the whole theory is made due to the low attendance in churches and whatnoit.I mean, private worship is MUCH more predominant in modern society, compared to say 30 years ago. 30 years ago it was relativity non existant. So alot of people still believe in god, and carry the same values and traditions that say, Christianity advocates, but they just dont ACTIVELY practise it, ie church every sunday. Statistics dont take this into account. Also, if we were to take the same time period, 30 eyars ago, and compare how many religions there was in them days, we would probably see that there are ALOT more nowadays. And the previously small factions in respect of religions, are not not so small. So not only are new religions spurting up, but also the smaller ones are becoming more popular. Lastly, again say 30 eyars ago, it was more of a social pressure to be very religious, in this case Christian, so often youd find people saying they are Christian, and even attending church, but not REALLY believing it. So all the aforementioned downsides to ebing a religious person cannot be attached to these people. They had to be seen as religious as it was a sign of someone humility/humbleness. Im not sure if this is all true 100% but im more sure that religion is not on the decline. Excuse the poor English use if there is any, im abit lean.

The thing also, as we are comparing history to modern day life, history has shown how countries (especially England) have used relgion to punish people. If you did not obbey by the rules they would claim that in the name of God, you would have to be punished.Now acording to most writen biblical testimonies, it is writen that the only judge is God, if this is the truth, then it goes to show that religion does in fact play a bad part in society and maybe peoples' faith should be personaly practiced rather then as a 'cult'.

HOW DOES IT GO TO SHOW RELIGION PLAYS A BAD PART?THE UK LAW IS NOT BASED ON ANY RELIGION. WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE FOR THAT?<>JOHN SMITH<>

[Guest Onslaught]

God exists but religion is wrong.

Elaborate.

[PROFESSOR JOHN SMITH]

God exists but religion is wrong.It divides people and causes death and hunger.Worship God in your own ways.All this "The only way to heaven is to believe in christ..all other religions go to hell" stuff is just plain rude IMO.I'd be a Buddhist if it came down to picking one religion. They ain't on no hype hype issh hpye hype issh

SHOW SOME EVIDENCE YOUNG MAN AND STOP ASSUMING.DEATH IS CAUSED REGARDLESS OF RELIGION. HUNGER IS DUE TO MANY REASONS SUCH AS GREED WHICH IS DISCOURAGED BY RELIGION.HOW DO YOU KNOW GOD EXISTS?

[PROFESSOR JOHN SMITH]

IMO none of them are right..Your faith is between you and God not you, harry, sally, trevor and wilson.

Yeah this is how i think religion should be, but its all been distorted by humans and now its f*cked up.

They would like to argue on the fact that because you believe in certain things they do, they want you to be catorgorized as one of them. I like to keep my relationship between me and God.Yes I have had Catholic upbringing and influences however, I feel that in the end God ain't gonna ask you what religion you follow like the Muslims like to put it.. he will simply ask you do you accept he is God.

YOU CAN KEEP YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD HOWEVER, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT YOU DO NOT LIKE TO BE LABELLED A CHRISTIAN? THAT IS CONTRADICTORY. YOU EITHER ARE OR AREN'T A CHRISTIAN.PERIOD.<>JOHN SMITH<>

[PROFESSOR JOHN SMITH]

Religion is one of the many tools used as part of the superstructure of society to make the lower classes feel a sense insubordinance to soemthing which then prepares them for insubordinance later in life. It can also be used to make uneducated people feel that dogmatic reasoning is a sufficiant and rational explaination for facts of life, thus causing them to lack the inquizitive nature they were born with, and which would arguably help them out later in life, hence them lacking a natural, helpful and important make up of being a successful human being and person. Its also used as a control mechanism and to make individuals fatalistic and lazy in nature.

WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE FOR THIS? OR IS THIS JUST YOUR GUESS?

[Uncle Fargas]

im not sure about god im not sure that jesus was the son of god but i believe that you should follow the teachings what jesus provided

[Reggie]

religion is pointlesshumans have weak mindswe cant prove or disprove "gods" existenceso we should all zip it until we capture something on camera to base a true religion on.

[Ashman.]

PROFESSOR JOHN SMITH,I am talking about the law mainly in history. Even in court you're asked to "swear" on the bible.In muslim countries today, religion does still play its part in the law.

[Flat Eric]

PROFESSOR JOHN SMITH,I am talking about the law mainly in history. Even in court you're asked to "swear" on the bible.In muslim countries today, religion does still play its part in the law.

dont tell me you're debating with yourself now...smh

[Ashman.]

PROFESSOR JOHN SMITH,I am talking about the law mainly in history. Even in court you're asked to "swear" on the bible.In muslim countries today, religion does still play its part in the law.

dont tell me you're debating with yourself now...smh

No, I am speaking with John

[juju]

LMAO Ashman's life>>>>>>>_________________

[NORA BATTY]

religion is pointlesshumans have weak mindswe cant prove or disprove "gods" existenceso we should all zip it until we capture something on camera to base a true religion on.

do you agree that we cant prove god?

[i_Break_Ankles]

religion is pointlesshumans have weak mindswe cant prove or disprove "gods" existenceso we should all zip it until we capture something on camera to base a true religion on.

do you agree that we cant prove god?

What?Anyways if he does exist I wouldn't be surprised if it was Kanye or suttin like him LOL cos thats exactly how he behaves.Throwing baby tantrums cos one person might not believe in him, as a result of HIS INCOMPETENCE.

[The King]

Swear John Smith was on RWD?

[Francis Coquelin]

Religion is not about proofIts about FaithIts not that hard a concept to grasp

[i_Break_Ankles]

Religion is not about proofIts about FaithIts not that hard a concept to grasp

Blind faith ain't really the one still.And okay you're approach is quite rare among the religious people I've encountered in my lifetime, because many others have claimed there actually IS a God, and they can ''prove it'', but always get shook when I put them on the spot. I always remind them it's faith, but I stop because I can't be seen arguing with fools.But people who support such a petty God actually scare me, thinking about it, it's actually worrying, and quite sad.