Guest Swiftie Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 This whole FM server ting.....Discuss quickly in here. Got a 2K3 server goin live 2moz (crossing fingers) on a 2.5 meg ^Set out the fundamentals and we'll see what's good. Even if you get half.. 1.3meg out of it.. That good enough for you or you needing more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Diskenth Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 huhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swiftie Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Football Manager 08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Diskenth Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 explain this to mewhat u need donations??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Diskenth Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 i must b tierdcos im reading it and still dnt make sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HangTheDJ Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Basically, we just need a remote computer thats on all the time to host the game.Not sure on the speeds needed, but 10mb+ seems to be fast enough to host the game, which is like 100kb/s upload speed so 1.3mb/s should be enough.The thing is though, the host usually needs to actually press something to host the game, or set rules (such as time limits) could that be done externally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEIRELES. Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 BasicallyFM is run where by a person from VIP2 loads up the game data etc and becomes the host for other people to joinThe game has to be run via a computer so the other players can connectIt cant play directly off the serverSo the server owner will have to keep FM loaded on their own computer so the game can process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyTree Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 cant u host then jj?and is ant quitting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HangTheDJ Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 cant u host then jj?and is ant quitting?ants leftnecksta said hes on hostingand nah i cant host, i asked around on bare forums and apparently its a problem with my router model and the january patchcome online i have you next matchsho's hosting atm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swiftie Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Basically, we just need a remote computer thats on all the time to host the game.Not sure on the speeds needed, but 10mb+ seems to be fast enough to host the game, which is like 100kb/s upload speed so 1.3mb/s should be enough.The thing is though, the host usually needs to actually press something to host the game, or set rules (such as time limits) could that be done externally?Possible *minor*BasicallyFM is run where by a person from VIP2 loads up the game data etc and becomes the host for other people to joinThe game has to be run via a computer so the other players can connectIt cant play directly off the serverSo the server owner will have to keep FM loaded on their own computer so the game can processAnd possible.. (actually I knew this part) just wondered wether the speed will be sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HangTheDJ Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Sick.How much would the maintenance per month be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Braund Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 it cant run on server software tho, i dnt think XP n Vista n i think OSXso my plan was makin a comp from bits i dnt use due to upgrades n playin that online through the hardware firewall n thatthen get JJ to access it through remote desktop so he can setup the matchesthen all users connect normally, ill have to get an separate IP address for the box itselfn then BANGwasnt as hard as i thoughti shud kick start doin this IT consultation for a living tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swiftie Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 it cant run on server software tho, i dnt think XP n Vista n i think OSXso my plan was makin a comp from bits i dnt use due to upgrades n playin that online through the hardware firewall n thatthen get JJ to access it through remote desktop so he can setup the matchesthen all users connect normally, ill have to get an separate IP address for the box itselfn then BANGwasnt as hard as i thoughti shud kick start doin this IT consultation for a living tbhBut XP, Vista and OSX are not Server OS's.... Oh did you mean it can't run on server OS's but will run on "Blah Blah Blah"Also havent tested the install on a server enviroment so wouldn't know.. But has anyone?& JJ as for maintance it depends.. Let me get my side sorted 1st.. Then see if it will play ball. (no pun) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Braund Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 yea what i mean itll work on the "home" versions kinda thing, XP, Vista OSX. but not Server 2003 onwards, OS Server or any of the linux flavourscoz what we need to do is install the game on the computer that will act as the server for the game, n jus have that live on the net (firewalled of course)then JJ links into it with remote desktop sets up the match n then everyone eles connectsi checked the server optionbut it wnt install on server OSso we need sutin like XP or Vistaalso, y aint u gettin server 2008? meant 2 b some nice improvements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swiftie Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 yea what i mean itll work on the "home" versions kinda thing, XP, Vista OSX. but not Server 2003 onwards, OS Server or any of the linux flavourscoz what we need to do is install the game on the computer that will act as the server for the game, n jus have that live on the net (firewalled of course)then JJ links into it with remote desktop sets up the match n then everyone eles connectsi checked the server optionbut it wnt install on server OSso we need sutin like XP or Vistaalso, y aint u gettin server 2008? meant 2 b some nice improvementsGot plenty of 64bit 08's flying around with silly amounts of ram... This 03 is simply for something else... So I thought why not add this... (hopefully)Also durts, installing it with compatibility mode set to "Windows XP" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Braund Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 u can only run server specific programs on servers init?like a program written for XP wont work on server 2008 or some sh*t will it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swiftie Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 u can only run server specific programs on servers init?like a program written for XP wont work on server 2008 or some sh*t will it?Not necessarily. It depends on the app. As I'm thinking of sticking it on a 03 box.In this case, all one will need to do is set the .EXE to install in "Windows XP" compatibility mode and it will install and run with no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lot To Learn Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Some baffling conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sho'Case Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 sounds sick stillwould be nice if this got set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Braund Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 u can only run server specific programs on servers init?like a program written for XP wont work on server 2008 or some sh*t will it?Not necessarily. It depends on the app. As I'm thinking of sticking it on a 03 box.In this case, all one will need to do is set the .EXE to install in "Windows XP" compatibility mode and it will install and run with no issues.yea that shud work still, didnt know about compatibility mode.what about the remote desktop side of things, coz the way the program is.. is u gotta start up the game, the start a network game at the serverso the host will need to more or less hav full functionality on that with RDwhats y i was suggesting an empty box thats dedicated to FM without anyweb stuff which obv u dnt want us accessing.unless u can virtualise a part of or sutin like we discussed b4 then make that part the FM link n setup RD for that n sh*t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swiftie Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 u can only run server specific programs on servers init?like a program written for XP wont work on server 2008 or some sh*t will it?Not necessarily. It depends on the app. As I'm thinking of sticking it on a 03 box.In this case, all one will need to do is set the .EXE to install in "Windows XP" compatibility mode and it will install and run with no issues.yea that shud work still, didnt know about compatibility mode.what about the remote desktop side of things, coz the way the program is.. is u gotta start up the game, the start a network game at the serverso the host will need to more or less hav full functionality on that with RDwhats y i was suggesting an empty box thats dedicated to FM without anyweb stuff which obv u dnt want us accessing.unless u can virtualise a part of or sutin like we discussed b4 then make that part the FM link n setup RD for that n sh*tSeparate box can do.. or what I was thinking about setting up an account with limitations of access of certain dir's.So when some one either VPN's or RDP's they only see what that user is allowed to see."if someone wants to dedicate a tower however feel free" So then its your own BOX and you have full access to do whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 So who will hosrt Fm?I will join still aint played it since the last vip2 got deaded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Braund Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 u can only run server specific programs on servers init?like a program written for XP wont work on server 2008 or some sh*t will it?Not necessarily. It depends on the app. As I'm thinking of sticking it on a 03 box.In this case, all one will need to do is set the .EXE to install in "Windows XP" compatibility mode and it will install and run with no issues.yea that shud work still, didnt know about compatibility mode.what about the remote desktop side of things, coz the way the program is.. is u gotta start up the game, the start a network game at the serverso the host will need to more or less hav full functionality on that with RDwhats y i was suggesting an empty box thats dedicated to FM without anyweb stuff which obv u dnt want us accessing.unless u can virtualise a part of or sutin like we discussed b4 then make that part the FM link n setup RD for that n sh*tSeparate box can do.. or what I was thinking about setting up an account with limitations of access of certain dir's.So when some one either VPN's or RDP's they only see what that user is allowed to see."if someone wants to dedicate a tower however feel free" So then its your own BOX and you have full access to do whatever.u doin it at home or rentin a ded. server?anyone (well not anyone, but anyone we choose) will hostso far at the mo it JJ, he's get RDP access tot he system then run the game n set the serverthen everyone else joins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Diskenth Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Some baffling conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Braund Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 itll all make sense once we have it up n runnin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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