Mr.Skeng Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 I was discussing this with ma bredrin today and its more than likely tories are gunna win this election. I dont know their specific policies on council housing but im thinking theyre gunna privatise most of the better/less run down estates and sell them on to posh boys. Places like Worlds End in Chelsea, some of the estates in Islington, the 'olympic village' that is meant to become council housing, etc. leaving the more run down estates such as Grahame Park in Colindale, Dollis Valley, Fulham Court etc. to us man. How much privatisation do you think is going to happen if the tories win and will it effect you? Think in 10 years time the gap between rich and poor is gunna be disgusting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Somalian Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 we will get a hung parliment nick clegg will force gordan brown to resign and david millerband a.k.a the snake in the grass will be our new primeminister with labour and lib dems sharing the cabinet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skenghis Khan Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 we will get a hung parliment nick clegg will force gordan brown to resign and david millerband a.k.a the snake in the grass will be our new primeminister with labour and lib dems sharing the cabinet i wud put money on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapist Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 I used to live on World's End and i personally think the estate would be better off privatised. Nice area, relatively new estate, decent exterior, balconies etc. Ive seen and lived in far worse estates. The council would make a fortune if it was privatised, and if that money was invested back into housing elsewhere it would be much more beneficial. How much of that money goes back into housing remains to be seen however. Thats just my opinion anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 we will get a hung parliment nick clegg will force gordan brown to resign and david millerband a.k.a the snake in the grass will be our new primeminister with labour and lib dems sharing the cabinet i wud put money on this. c/s would opt for this over camron any day of the week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Someone explain what hang parliament means and what it would mean realistically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardissimo Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Someone explain what hang parliament means and what it would mean realistically. One of the next major hurdles the UK market will have to contend with in the near term is the general election, an event which looks most likely to be held on May 6th 2010. The latest polls have indicated that the Conservative lead has continued to narrow with the gap between the ruling Labour government and Tory party at the smallest margin in two years making a hung parliament a very likely prospect. What is a hung parliament? A hung parliament by most common definition is when one party has no overall majority, meaning no party has more than half of MP’s in the House of Commons. In this case a Government would not be able to pass laws without the support of other parties. Concerns are that with a fragile economic recovery under way in the UK coupled with the bulging public deficit, any prolonged or disagreement between parties on how to address the county’s public finances could impede the economic recovery or worse put the country’s sovereign rating at risk. The concerns have been clearly evident with the sharp declines seen in the GBP over the course of the last few weeks. Hung parliament history and technicalities Historically, there has only been one hung parliament since the war which was back in February 1974, and there has not been a coalition government made up of ministers from different parties since 1945. In terms of the 2010 election there will be a minor change in the number of seats to compensate for boundary changes. This will result In the new House of Commons hosting 650 seats, four additional on the previous election. On current calculations the Conservatives need a 10% lead to achieve an outright majority and thus take full control of the government. At present they have 193 so would need to take 322 seats to have a working majority. If there is a hung parliament will Gordon Brown remain PM? In the event of a hung parliament Gordon Brown would stay on as the Prime Minister only losing his position should he elect to step down from his post. Recent comments would suggest he is adement he will retain his leadership saying last week that he would “keep going” as the Labour leader. If we do have a hung parliament and Gordon Brown remains PM it is likely he will try to form a coalition government with the smaller Liberal Democrat party. At present Nick Clegg, the Lib Dem leader has not said what his party would do in a hung scenario but reports suggest Clegg could be tempted to keep a Labour government alive if Brown promises a referendum on reforming the electoral system to make it fairer on the smaller parties. The Lib Dems will feel much more comfortable about doing a deal with Gordon Brown if Labour can somehow emerge from the election as the largest party according to insiders at the Independent newspaper. In respect of a minority government, if the Conservatives really wanted they could keep going for four to five years without a Commons majority, provided Cameron does not set off a crisis that causes all the other parties to gang up and pass a vote of no confidence in his administration according to BBC sources. Also, last Friday a report published by the Centre Forum, a liberal think-tank, suggested the Liberal Democrats would support a minority Conservative government in a hung parliament despite "profound differences" between the two parties. Would a hung parliament be good for the country? There is a difference in opinion on whether a hung parliament is a good or bad thing for the economy. The majority of national press has jumped on the “hung” scenario as a catalyst for more doom and gloom for the UK economy; however some analysts do believe that a political stale mate might be exactly what the economy desires in order to set out relevant restructuring plans. For the majority, overwhelming concerns will be that without a clear winner and no authority in the Commons any timely decisions in regards to reducing the country’s deficit could be delayed and consequently the market may well be spooked by the prospect of the UK losing its treasured 'AAA' rating. However, a small group of analysts' do believe that the recent hype surrounding 'the demise of the UK' may well be over done and the fact that markets are forward looking then any loss of confidence in the stability of the UK may already have been priced in. The FT reported on March 1st that "Gilts lose triple A luster for investors" as British government debt is already trading at prices that suggest it has lost its prized top credit rating. Buckle up... we’re in for a bumpy ride! This week the UK will outline its budget on Wednesday, which may well act as a pre-cursor to how the polls will perform over the course of the next six weeks. The market will be looking to the Chancellor on how he intends to get ‘UK Plc’ back on track with the shadow Chancellor George Osborne saying that he would only show his hand once Darling’s cards are on the table. If the Chancellor fails to convince the market that his party are willing to take the necessary measures then the Conservatives could still re-widen their lead and take a majority at the May election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Someone explain what hang parliament means and what it would mean realistically. One of the next major hurdles the UK market will have to contend with in the near term is the general election, an event which looks most likely to be held on May 6th 2010. The latest polls have indicated that the Conservative lead has continued to narrow with the gap between the ruling Labour government and Tory party at the smallest margin in two years making a hung parliament a very likely prospect. What is a hung parliament? A hung parliament by most common definition is when one party has no overall majority, meaning no party has more than half of MP’s in the House of Commons. In this case a Government would not be able to pass laws without the support of other parties. Concerns are that with a fragile economic recovery under way in the UK coupled with the bulging public deficit, any prolonged or disagreement between parties on how to address the county’s public finances could impede the economic recovery or worse put the country’s sovereign rating at risk. The concerns have been clearly evident with the sharp declines seen in the GBP over the course of the last few weeks. Hung parliament history and technicalities Historically, there has only been one hung parliament since the war which was back in February 1974, and there has not been a coalition government made up of ministers from different parties since 1945. In terms of the 2010 election there will be a minor change in the number of seats to compensate for boundary changes. This will result In the new House of Commons hosting 650 seats, four additional on the previous election. On current calculations the Conservatives need a 10% lead to achieve an outright majority and thus take full control of the government. At present they have 193 so would need to take 322 seats to have a working majority. If there is a hung parliament will Gordon Brown remain PM? In the event of a hung parliament Gordon Brown would stay on as the Prime Minister only losing his position should he elect to step down from his post. Recent comments would suggest he is adement he will retain his leadership saying last week that he would “keep going” as the Labour leader. If we do have a hung parliament and Gordon Brown remains PM it is likely he will try to form a coalition government with the smaller Liberal Democrat party. At present Nick Clegg, the Lib Dem leader has not said what his party would do in a hung scenario but reports suggest Clegg could be tempted to keep a Labour government alive if Brown promises a referendum on reforming the electoral system to make it fairer on the smaller parties. The Lib Dems will feel much more comfortable about doing a deal with Gordon Brown if Labour can somehow emerge from the election as the largest party according to insiders at the Independent newspaper. In respect of a minority government, if the Conservatives really wanted they could keep going for four to five years without a Commons majority, provided Cameron does not set off a crisis that causes all the other parties to gang up and pass a vote of no confidence in his administration according to BBC sources. Also, last Friday a report published by the Centre Forum, a liberal think-tank, suggested the Liberal Democrats would support a minority Conservative government in a hung parliament despite "profound differences" between the two parties. Would a hung parliament be good for the country? There is a difference in opinion on whether a hung parliament is a good or bad thing for the economy. The majority of national press has jumped on the “hung” scenario as a catalyst for more doom and gloom for the UK economy; however some analysts do believe that a political stale mate might be exactly what the economy desires in order to set out relevant restructuring plans. For the majority, overwhelming concerns will be that without a clear winner and no authority in the Commons any timely decisions in regards to reducing the country’s deficit could be delayed and consequently the market may well be spooked by the prospect of the UK losing its treasured 'AAA' rating. However, a small group of analysts' do believe that the recent hype surrounding 'the demise of the UK' may well be over done and the fact that markets are forward looking then any loss of confidence in the stability of the UK may already have been priced in. The FT reported on March 1st that "Gilts lose triple A luster for investors" as British government debt is already trading at prices that suggest it has lost its prized top credit rating. Buckle up... we’re in for a bumpy ride! This week the UK will outline its budget on Wednesday, which may well act as a pre-cursor to how the polls will perform over the course of the next six weeks. The market will be looking to the Chancellor on how he intends to get ‘UK Plc’ back on track with the shadow Chancellor George Osborne saying that he would only show his hand once Darling’s cards are on the table. If the Chancellor fails to convince the market that his party are willing to take the necessary measures then the Conservatives could still re-widen their lead and take a majority at the May election. Thanks G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skenghis Khan Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 set ppl in the council are moving bookie imo, selling off housing in desirable locations, pushing the ppl who need housing to the outskirts, building on green/recreational areas and ultimately creating 'problem estates' because the only consideration is fitting in as many homes as possible without due care paid to ensuring quality of life. also the state of some blocks is shameful, ive seen some flats that were not fit for purpose and sometimes unsafe, they were poorly built and have been poorly maintained. some are being sorted out and new places are being built. but theres still a bag of blocks that should imo be torn down and rebuilt properly and its the same way in cities up and down the country, i see the same thing in bristol and nottingham. I dont think theres money in the budget to address housing satisfactorily, but way things are at the moment is serving to fill the pockets of building contractors and set ppl in the council. i think smaddy already made this topic but ppl deaded it btw. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Also i wana get bang on jobseekers allowance after exams and Labour are willing to pay me £50 of free cash per week im sure it will b lowered under tory LABOUR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> f*ck CHANGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardissimo Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Also i wana get bang on jobseekers allowance after exams and Labour are willing to pay me £50 of free cash per week im sure it will b lowered under tory LABOUR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> f*ck CHANGE smh sponger you are the epitome of broken britain jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 f*ck OFF, YOU NIGERIAN 419 MERCHANT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spiderman Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Also i wana get bang on jobseekers allowance after exams and Labour are willing to pay me £50 of free cash per week im sure it will b lowered under tory LABOUR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> f*ck CHANGE smh sponger you are the epitome of broken britain jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 PAAAARRRRTY SCAAAATTTERRRR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Thats what they did when they let people buy their council houses. Instead of letting councils make extra money off of the bought houses, they would just take the money they earned out of their allocation budgets.Private housing associations pop up (Who are owned by...guess who) and you start to get the picture of what it's all about. This is how British politics work. Under the conservatives, the rich get rich and the poor hit rock bottom. Then Labour come in until they run out of money lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejan Savicevic Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Thats what they did when they let people buy their council houses. Instead of letting councils make extra money off of the bought houses, they would just take the money they earned out of their allocation budgets.Private housing associations pop up (Who are owned by...guess who) and you start to get the picture of what it's all about. This is how British politics work. Under the conservatives, the rich get rich and the poor hit rock bottom. Then Labour come in until they run out of money lol. jah know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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