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But its just a word. Maybe it rhymed, I dunno. Maybe they listened to too much South music that day. Like I said I cant defend it, but at the same time I dont get caught up in it either...However the funniest thing is that when most people say so and so is begging they will particularly pick the hip hop man rather than the grime emcee, for example dunno if it was you but somebody said Sincere, then the whole iTrap thing was brought up, but it was convientently forgotten that "iTrap" is a song from Scorcher's mixtape featuring Sincere, not the other way round...But then again its the same way everyone will still say to this day say "oh S.A.S are begging cos they HAD a US accent" but again forget that man like Skinnyman once had one too. Ironically Skinnyman has never lived in the US or moved daily with a bunch of Americians for years, so what was his excuse for doing it???
Skinnymans part of that whole scene that rap in accents i've never heard before, some unnatural UK street voice put on steroids, Jehst, Roots Manuva, Mudfam etc, they all suffer from the same problem.lol at conveniantly forgetting anything, after all my argument about Strictly The Best being good and Leaders Of The New School bein bad, where did i forget we were talking bout Scorcher? this isnt an assault on UK Hip Hop for bein americanised, its an assault on any MC practicing this bullshitgrime identified itself as what it was, now people are trying to bring hip hop into, this due to the mixtape scene fair enough, the artists can only be blamed so much, not everyone wants to hear 20 tracks in a row at 140bpmin regards to SAS, i understand their position is completely differetn to that of Scorcher's or Sincere's, but its not the fact that they use american slang that makes them sound that american, its the way they stretch words in the same way an american would, jus listen to Wiley, then listen to SAS, the difference is phenomonali support the Wileys right now, not the Scorchers, even tho Scorcher was my favourite MC on the grime scen for quite some time at one point, he needs a kick up the backside for goin on the way he has done recently, especially after his whole lyric bout D-Block and how "them man got you thinking the wrong stuff"aside from that Red Light on LEaders Of The School was possibly the best Grime track of last year
Its not due to just mixtapes tho, its albums too...Wiley & S.A.S spit on beats at completely different tempos tho and Wiley spits double time, so thats obviously gonna be different. S.A.S dont stretch there words unless its for adlibs or end of rhyme comical/swagger effect, something which Jim Jones actually catted from them.I dunno about in the grime scene, but I know for a FACT that Scorcher gets more road love now, then he did then. Like I'll hear man hyping Devlin on the net and I'll go around people that are on this grime ting but aint really on the net and I'll ask them about Devlin and they will look at me like who the f*ck is Devlin... Like I heard Scorcher on the Kanye beat and he went IN! Better than a LOT of rappers. You lot might call that going backwards but I wouldnt.
i see wot ur sayin, and i think we've now reached an agree to disagree point so lets leave it therewot Kanye beat from Scorcher out of interest?
testify i think stillhim and wretch did a ting on itwas good stillprefered him on the dead presidents beat
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But its just a word. Maybe it rhymed, I dunno. Maybe they listened to too much South music that day. Like I said I cant defend it, but at the same time I dont get caught up in it either...However the funniest thing is that when most people say so and so is begging they will particularly pick the hip hop man rather than the grime emcee, for example dunno if it was you but somebody said Sincere, then the whole iTrap thing was brought up, but it was convientently forgotten that "iTrap" is a song from Scorcher's mixtape featuring Sincere, not the other way round...But then again its the same way everyone will still say to this day say "oh S.A.S are begging cos they HAD a US accent" but again forget that man like Skinnyman once had one too. Ironically Skinnyman has never lived in the US or moved daily with a bunch of Americians for years, so what was his excuse for doing it???
Skinnymans part of that whole scene that rap in accents i've never heard before, some unnatural UK street voice put on steroids, Jehst, Roots Manuva, Mudfam etc, they all suffer from the same problem.lol at conveniantly forgetting anything, after all my argument about Strictly The Best being good and Leaders Of The New School bein bad, where did i forget we were talking bout Scorcher? this isnt an assault on UK Hip Hop for bein americanised, its an assault on any MC practicing this bullshitgrime identified itself as what it was, now people are trying to bring hip hop into, this due to the mixtape scene fair enough, the artists can only be blamed so much, not everyone wants to hear 20 tracks in a row at 140bpmin regards to SAS, i understand their position is completely differetn to that of Scorcher's or Sincere's, but its not the fact that they use american slang that makes them sound that american, its the way they stretch words in the same way an american would, jus listen to Wiley, then listen to SAS, the difference is phenomonali support the Wileys right now, not the Scorchers, even tho Scorcher was my favourite MC on the grime scen for quite some time at one point, he needs a kick up the backside for goin on the way he has done recently, especially after his whole lyric bout D-Block and how "them man got you thinking the wrong stuff"aside from that Red Light on LEaders Of The School was possibly the best Grime track of last year
Its not due to just mixtapes tho, its albums too...Wiley & S.A.S spit on beats at completely different tempos tho and Wiley spits double time, so thats obviously gonna be different. S.A.S dont stretch there words unless its for adlibs or end of rhyme comical/swagger effect, something which Jim Jones actually catted from them.I dunno about in the grime scene, but I know for a FACT that Scorcher gets more road love now, then he did then. Like I'll hear man hyping Devlin on the net and I'll go around people that are on this grime ting but aint really on the net and I'll ask them about Devlin and they will look at me like who the f*ck is Devlin... Like I heard Scorcher on the Kanye beat and he went IN! Better than a LOT of rappers. You lot might call that going backwards but I wouldnt.
i see wot ur sayin, and i think we've now reached an agree to disagree point so lets leave it therewot Kanye beat from Scorcher out of interest?
testify i think stillhim and wretch did a ting on itwas good stillprefered him on the dead presidents beat
off one of Wretch's mixtape? wouldnt mind hearin that
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But its just a word. Maybe it rhymed, I dunno. Maybe they listened to too much South music that day. Like I said I cant defend it, but at the same time I dont get caught up in it either...However the funniest thing is that when most people say so and so is begging they will particularly pick the hip hop man rather than the grime emcee, for example dunno if it was you but somebody said Sincere, then the whole iTrap thing was brought up, but it was convientently forgotten that "iTrap" is a song from Scorcher's mixtape featuring Sincere, not the other way round...But then again its the same way everyone will still say to this day say "oh S.A.S are begging cos they HAD a US accent" but again forget that man like Skinnyman once had one too. Ironically Skinnyman has never lived in the US or moved daily with a bunch of Americians for years, so what was his excuse for doing it???
Skinnymans part of that whole scene that rap in accents i've never heard before, some unnatural UK street voice put on steroids, Jehst, Roots Manuva, Mudfam etc, they all suffer from the same problem.lol at conveniantly forgetting anything, after all my argument about Strictly The Best being good and Leaders Of The New School bein bad, where did i forget we were talking bout Scorcher? this isnt an assault on UK Hip Hop for bein americanised, its an assault on any MC practicing this bullshitgrime identified itself as what it was, now people are trying to bring hip hop into, this due to the mixtape scene fair enough, the artists can only be blamed so much, not everyone wants to hear 20 tracks in a row at 140bpmin regards to SAS, i understand their position is completely differetn to that of Scorcher's or Sincere's, but its not the fact that they use american slang that makes them sound that american, its the way they stretch words in the same way an american would, jus listen to Wiley, then listen to SAS, the difference is phenomonali support the Wileys right now, not the Scorchers, even tho Scorcher was my favourite MC on the grime scen for quite some time at one point, he needs a kick up the backside for goin on the way he has done recently, especially after his whole lyric bout D-Block and how "them man got you thinking the wrong stuff"aside from that Red Light on LEaders Of The School was possibly the best Grime track of last year
Its not due to just mixtapes tho, its albums too...Wiley & S.A.S spit on beats at completely different tempos tho and Wiley spits double time, so thats obviously gonna be different. S.A.S dont stretch there words unless its for adlibs or end of rhyme comical/swagger effect, something which Jim Jones actually catted from them.I dunno about in the grime scene, but I know for a FACT that Scorcher gets more road love now, then he did then. Like I'll hear man hyping Devlin on the net and I'll go around people that are on this grime ting but aint really on the net and I'll ask them about Devlin and they will look at me like who the f*ck is Devlin... Like I heard Scorcher on the Kanye beat and he went IN! Better than a LOT of rappers. You lot might call that going backwards but I wouldnt.
i see wot ur sayin, and i think we've now reached an agree to disagree point so lets leave it therewot Kanye beat from Scorcher out of interest?
testify i think stillhim and wretch did a ting on itwas good stillprefered him on the dead presidents beat
off one of Wretch's mixtape? wouldnt mind hearin that
yeah off wretchs tape stilldope tunes i'll line you up with them
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i see wot ur sayin, and i think we've now reached an agree to disagree point so lets leave it therewot Kanye beat from Scorcher out of interest?
Agreed.Can't Tell Me Nothing.
send me that please
I dont have it. I heard it playing in there studio, like they would let me get my hands on it, lol, it would have been out if I had it. Its probably gonna be on the Simply The Best 2 or his CD with Sincere, but the plan might have changed cos this was before Scorcher went pen, infact it was so long ago that when I heard his thing on the Mainstream Money instrumental, I thought it was his beat and Stryder's was just a freestyle they just shot a video for...
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Back to the Grammy's I hope they show the whole of Kanye's speech including when he boys the band that try cut his speech short by playing there "shut the f*ck up and move" music
Is it on youtube?
Dont think I didnt post that in the wrong topic lolFollow me to the other thread
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^^^^ lol yea that was funnyGrime is GrimeHip-Hop is Hip-Hopsay no more
Someone always comes in and makes a sweeping generalisation, with no facts or anything..Grime is a type of HipHopsay no more
no it isn't, this is why i had to call u a donut earlierHip Hop is somthing that happened at a time an a placeGrime happened in a completely different time and placeGrime came from Garage, how could u ever call it Hip Hop, i suppose Garage is RnB now right?llow it
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