What tests should immigrants face?

[Natalie]

it should be like italy, a year to find work and contribute to society or get deported

that sounds like a good idea

yeh nice n simple plus then they all get a chance to prove themselves

Not even tryna bring you down.But when are things ever that simple.

Nah i know things are never simple, but as the situation stands at the moment, immigrants sit testswhere they are asked questions that i don't believe should validate there citizenship. questions such as # What are MPs?# What is the Church of England and who is its head?becoz i doubt many UK citizens could answer the questions correctly them selfs.i jus feel that by living, working and basically surviving in the UK, for a length of time,is a realistic way of seeing what life is like in th uk, and learning the lauange/culture is not really something that can be taught or learnt from a book.

EVERYONE should know what an MP is EVERYONE and if not everyone the majority.Second q is understandable I could see how not everyone knows.I get what your saying though.

[Train]

You lot must be talking about immigrants from Africa of Jammo as immigrants from EU countries have the right to live and work in any EU country they choose without tests, exams or anything else (notwithstanding limitations on time)Dunno what you lot are on about.

[The Cousin Of Sleep]

The test where they throw you off a cliff.If you survive, you are of the devil and will be ejected from the country.If you do not, you are allowed to stay.

[Black Jesus]

The test where they throw you off a cliff.If you survive, you are of the devil and will be ejected from the country.If you do not, you are allowed to stay.

:D

[Mist]

it should be like italy, a year to find work and contribute to society or get deported

that sounds like a good idea

yeh nice n simple plus then they all get a chance to prove themselves

Not even tryna bring you down.But when are things ever that simple.

Nah i know things are never simple, but as the situation stands at the moment, immigrants sit testswhere they are asked questions that i don't believe should validate there citizenship. questions such as # What are MPs?# What is the Church of England and who is its head?becoz i doubt many UK citizens could answer the questions correctly them selfs.i jus feel that by living, working and basically surviving in the UK, for a length of time,is a realistic way of seeing what life is like in th uk, and learning the lauange/culture is not really something that can be taught or learnt from a book.

EVERYONE should know what an MP is EVERYONE and if not everyone the majority.Second q is understandable I could see how not everyone knows.I get what your saying though.

Yh agreed every shud know the 1st question (i hope) these were jus the only examples i could find.@ Train i believe were talking bot non-European immigrantsbut still EU immigrants don't have British citizenships.

[Train]

it should be like italy, a year to find work and contribute to society or get deported

that sounds like a good idea

yeh nice n simple plus then they all get a chance to prove themselves

Not even tryna bring you down.But when are things ever that simple.

Nah i know things are never simple, but as the situation stands at the moment, immigrants sit testswhere they are asked questions that i don't believe should validate there citizenship. questions such as # What are MPs?# What is the Church of England and who is its head?becoz i doubt many UK citizens could answer the questions correctly them selfs.i jus feel that by living, working and basically surviving in the UK, for a length of time,is a realistic way of seeing what life is like in th uk, and learning the lauange/culture is not really something that can be taught or learnt from a book.

EVERYONE should know what an MP is EVERYONE and if not everyone the majority.Second q is understandable I could see how not everyone knows.I get what your saying though.

Yh agreed every shud know the 1st question (i hope) these were jus the only examples i could find.@ Train i believe were talking bot non-European immigrantsbut still EU immigrants don't have UK citizenships.

Oh seen sorry .Nevertheless, dispite them not having UK citizenship by vertue of them having citizenship of another EU country, they are allowed to move and work freely within ANY Eu country, dispite not having job. So I think people will find that immigrants have asmuch right to be in this country as you and I do.

[Mist]

EU immigrants have the right to move freely within the EU, yh, but they need work permits within the UK (im pretty sure neways)and these work permits, are only available for certain jobs where there is a shortage of workers, like agriculture.so they have rights yh, but they don't have the same rights as a British citizen,they fore may wanna apply for this, n that where the tests come in.

[Stig]

Come on, lets just say they should get drafted in the army and earn their rights

why should they fight for a country of people who dont want them.if i was an immigrant facing this kind of resistance and you asked me to defend you??? better protect your neck

[Numero001]

Come on, lets just say they should get drafted in the army and earn their rights

why should they fight for a country of people who dont want them.if i was an immigrant facing this kind of resistance and you asked me to defend you??? better protect your neck

I was saying thats where we're gonna get to. People saying imi's to prove their worth for the country, well what better way then the good ol' Army?I dont agree with that

[Train]

EU immigrants have the right to move freely within the EU, yh, but they need work permits within the UK (im pretty sure neways)and these work permits, are only available for certain jobs where there is a shortage of workers, like agriculture.so they have rights yh, but they don't have the same rights as a British citizen,they fore may wanna apply for this, n that where the tests come in.

Article 6 of Directive 2004/38 says that any EU citizen has the right to reside, work or look for work in any Member State for a period of up to 3 months (I think, if not 6) without any identification other than a valid passport.Problems only occur when they try to reside for more than that time, and even then, if they can prove that they have been activly seeking work, or that they are in any form of legal employment, then they are allowed to stay.So really, unless they are coming here with the intention to STAY, then they are not even classed as an immigrant. They are allowed to enter and exit freely, with or without a job, for 3 months, after that, providing they find work, they can stay forever really. Only then do they become an immigrant. Illegal immigrants, and people coming from outside the EU, now thats a different story lol.

[Mist]

EU immigrants have the right to move freely within the EU, yh, but they need work permits within the UK (im pretty sure neways)and these work permits, are only available for certain jobs where there is a shortage of workers, like agriculture.so they have rights yh, but they don't have the same rights as a British citizen,they fore may wanna apply for this, n that where the tests come in.

Article 6 of Directive 2004/38 says that any EU citizen has the right to reside, work or look for work in any Member State for a period of up to 3 months (I think, if not 6) without any identification other than a valid passport.

and so once this 3/6 month period has passed??

[Uncle Fargas]

make them speak clearly and know how to swear in the right order

[Stig]

make them speak clearly and know how to swear in the right order

skeenyou can only say this if you're from London.no country bumpkin or geordie should be saying anything about speaking, and the thing is i imagine its these types that are complaing and dont want 'nowt' to change

[Train]

EU immigrants have the right to move freely within the EU, yh, but they need work permits within the UK (im pretty sure neways)and these work permits, are only available for certain jobs where there is a shortage of workers, like agriculture.so they have rights yh, but they don't have the same rights as a British citizen,they fore may wanna apply for this, n that where the tests come in.

Article 6 of Directive 2004/38 says that any EU citizen has the right to reside, work or look for work in any Member State for a period of up to 3 months (I think, if not 6) without any identification other than a valid passport.

and so once this 3/6 month period has passed??

Yea sorry, updated my previous post about 5 times lol, its in there. But basically, once that time is passed, if they can prove they have actily been seeking work and that they have a realistic chance of being engaged in the feild, then they can stay. OR if they have found work, then again they can stay. The UK have no right to throw them out in either of these situations.Once they have worked here for 5 years, then they have the right to live here forever. But, even if they sign on for the 3 months and cant prove that that they have been seeking work, then throwing them out of the country is not a first port of call option for the UK. They have to take less serious measure first.This is the same for all EU countries. Dont make the government make you think that immigrants are not entitled to stay here, they have asmuch right as you and I, like I previoiusly said.

[The Cousin Of Sleep]

make them speak clearly and know how to swear in the right order

skeenyou can only say this if you're from London.no country bumpkin or geordie should be saying anything about speaking, and the thing is i imagine its these types that are complaing and dont want 'nowt' to change

lol @ not being from london.

[DINKY]

aint read none of the topic but i think if you want to come to this country you have to pledge alligance to king and country coz i like how americans are patriotic people in this country love to cuss it off coz they r not taught to love italso for illegal immigrants who say they r leaving a war torn country and might be killed put ALL OF THEM in special prison ships what sail around the country feed them and everything and get them to do some cheap labour work to pay for their keepthey should not mind as it would be better than being killed in their own countryand the uk should break away from the eu

[Numero001]

aint read none of the topic but i think if you want to come to this country you have to pledge alligance to king and country coz i like how americans are patriotic people in this country love to cuss it off coz they r not taught to love italso for illegal immigrants who say they r leaving a war torn country and might be killed put ALL OF THEM in special prison ships what sail around the country feed them and everything and get them to do some cheap labour work to pay for their keepthey should not mind as it would be better than being killed in their own countryand the uk should break away from the eu

King yeah?

[The King]

No they SHOULDNT have to pass ANY tests.

Whats jokes is English people go to countries like Ibiza and that, go and live in their own community in a home away from home type scenario, encourage unruly tourists to come and f*ck about and dont have to do sh*t."Yeah mate, can I 'ave steak and chips with a peena colarda"About learn the language. Shouldnt make the place seem like heaven then should you. Suits you when you want Indians to come and be dr.'s or when you want Caribbean to run your transport, South African's to be teachers, but when it backfires you wanna limit? Scum make me laugh

The difference is when it's a holiday and when your going there to live.

[Natalie]

aint read none of the topic but i think if you want to come to this country you have to pledge alligance to king and country coz i like how americans are patriotic people in this country love to cuss it off coz they r not taught to love italso for illegal immigrants who say they r leaving a war torn country and might be killed put ALL OF THEM in special prison ships what sail around the country feed them and everything and get them to do some cheap labour work to pay for their keepthey should not mind as it would be better than being killed in their own countryand the uk should break away from the eu

King yeah?

lolAnd also Furio why should the uk break away from the eu?

[DINKY]

yeah coz they r head of state i also would bring in national service for the age of 17 til 18 give people some dicaplinetrust me if the country was reformed like that england would win the world cupI can be one of them people who say burn down the monachary and all them roman babylon stuff with a burning spearbut if you live in the country you got to live by its rules and holding the king or queen in high esteem should be one of them even though i think we should be a republicwe should break away from the eu because we dont need the euro i know there is talk about us joining up coz of the delicate situation the pound is in at the moment and the french are chatting a whole load of sh*t about it.do you think its right that people in brussles should be able to overrule a ruling in this country?for instance someone gets sacked in this country or had a operation that got f*cked up in this country high court decides there is no problem then the person takes to to the european high court and they overule it kinda makes our goverment pointlessalso british citeznes should only be allowed to have operations in this country

[Numero001]

No they SHOULDNT have to pass ANY tests.

Whats jokes is English people go to countries like Ibiza and that, go and live in their own community in a home away from home type scenario, encourage unruly tourists to come and f*ck about and dont have to do sh*t."Yeah mate, can I 'ave steak and chips with a peena colarda"About learn the language. Shouldnt make the place seem like heaven then should you. Suits you when you want Indians to come and be dr.'s or when you want Caribbean to run your transport, South African's to be teachers, but when it backfires you wanna limit? Scum make me laugh

The difference is when it's a holiday and when your going there to live.

I'm talking about when people go there to live

[DINKY]

yeah numero is chattin sense alot of british people that live in spain dont speak spanish and dont try to either they buy their sun newspaper and read that same way turkish man, bangladeshi man do it here so it is a bit hyprocritcle (sp) spainish goverment seem to be at war with them now ne how tearing down there yards bareface about they have no planning permission

[The Cousin Of Sleep]

yeah numero is chattin sense alot of british people that live in spain dont speak spanish and dont try to either they buy their sun newspaper and read that same way turkish man, bangladeshi man do it here so it is a bit hyprocritcle (sp) spainish goverment seem to be at war with them now ne how tearing down there yards bareface about they have no planning permission

It's slightly different.I wouldnt say that people that actually LIVE in spain cannot ANY speak spanish, they simply wouldnt be able to cope.The argument with the Illegals here is the supposed crime rate raising sickeningly+the whole muslim sharia law thing, I dont think anyone actually cares if a polish person cannot speak english properly.It is the demonisation of the Illegals that causes concern.

[DINKY]

When I was out in tenerife we went to some place there were only british and dutch people dont think ne1 had a problem we then had the africans use to come by selling there shitty fake nike tops and I think they would be seen as the problem just like here innit? like all over europe from italy to spain switzeland and belgiumI hear u coz like here no one here is cussing the russians domiciles or the rich chinese buisness men coming over putting dough into the ecomony its the bottom of the barrell people the eastern europeans, people traffickers, drug dealers, pimps bringing up the crime rate

[Numero001]

yeah numero is chattin sense alot of british people that live in spain dont speak spanish and dont try to either they buy their sun newspaper and read that same way turkish man, bangladeshi man do it here so it is a bit hyprocritcle (sp) spainish goverment seem to be at war with them now ne how tearing down there yards bareface about they have no planning permission

It's slightly different.I wouldnt say that people that actually LIVE in spain cannot ANY speak spanish, they simply wouldnt be able to cope.The argument with the Illegals here is the supposed crime rate raising sickeningly+the whole muslim sharia law thing, I dont think anyone actually cares if a polish person cannot speak english properly.It is the demonisation of the Illegals that causes concern.

Now this is where people gimme joke. Where did you get that its illegals that are raising the crime rate when its British born are raising it sickingly themselves?Which Illegal muslim brought up the whole Sharia law ting? I guess it was the same person that said that Muslim's are offended by Christmas decorations on the street then?I think the one thing you said people dont care about is the one that people complain about the most!Oh and I can speak a bit of Spanish, couldnt communicate with a Spanish person though. Is it cool for me to live in Spain 'cause I can say "hola" and "como esta"