Pyramids...

[Vtec]

lol @ quoting urself.was big though

[Steven]

lol @ quoting yourself

[ChickenCottage]

Strong co-sign Streets post.We're now building structures thought to be physically impossible just within the last 100 years alone.

u forgettin the difference in how we go about sh*t they did things without technology we rely on it we cannot build the great pyramids how they made the great pyramid we cant make some of things they made even with technology

With expansive man power just about anything can be made. The pyramids weren't made with slaves but with fell paid and fed workers. They probably used tools made from wood that are lost to us but made the job possible.Thousands of years from now they might not find our cranes but it was possible to make them in our time.

[57 heinz]

That was a good speech, but your not seeing things from a logical point of view.I'm not saying they were primative. If you look at my first post you will see that. All I'm saying is that as a civilisation, we create far more amazing structures and have far more amazing technology then the people who built the structures in Egypt/Mexico.Who cares about monoliths when we have the Empire State building. Can anyone lift that? nope.who cares about timbuktu having an underground water system when even the most basic shitty council house has a much more complex system?As for you talking about information and data, the whole reason this topic is 6 pages long is because ancient tribes were so poor at recording and keeping information safe (as well as jealous europeans destroying SOME)Anything you can talk about with ancient tribes has been bettered x1000 by modern thinkers.

Sorry, that was such a strong post I'm quoting myself.LOL @ the technology in this being far more amazing then anything in ancient egypt

that maybe to do wid the fact that oil wasnt discovered yet

[Captain Planet]

Ancient aliens taught humans how to construct the pyramids where the secrets of the universe would be preserved.There is no other explanation for how the pyramids could have been constructed so efficiently and perfectly aligned with the stars.

why aliens?

Because they would have most likely been the only people to have the knowledge to construct such buildings and its also believed that they came down from space which is why you see the pyramid art that looks freakishly like people in spaceships. This is also the basis for believing that god came down from the sky (the heavens) etc.

so do you beleive in aliens then? or ur saying the basis of a 'God' is based on aliens?

I think the basis of god could be based on aliens yes and I definitely believe in them.

thats what i was trying to establish. very weird how people can believe in the concept of aliens yet say there cant be a God.i say that cos it seems you have a problem with 'religion'.what do you think of this explanation .

My pastor was talking about these beings a while ago.

[Aquaman]

swear ppl are just making stupid comments to wind me upwe still dont know how the f*ck they built the pyramids and ur posting pictures of a clapped ford escortthat nephilim vid is bullshit tho

[Flojo]

That was a good speech, but your not seeing things from a logical point of view.I'm not saying they were primative. If you look at my first post you will see that. All I'm saying is that as a civilisation, we create far more amazing structures and have far more amazing technology then the people who built the structures in Egypt/Mexico.Who cares about monoliths when we have the Empire State building. Can anyone lift that? nope.who cares about timbuktu having an underground water system when even the most basic shitty council house has a much more complex system?As for you talking about information and data, the whole reason this topic is 6 pages long is because ancient tribes were so poor at recording and keeping information safe (as well as jealous europeans destroying SOME)Anything you can talk about with ancient tribes has been bettered x1000 by modern thinkers.

Sorry, that was such a strong post I'm quoting myself.LOL @ the technology in this being far more amazing then anything in ancient egypt

You're completely missing the point. They've made things then that we can't replicate now even though you're championing modern engineering & technology.The empire state building is made of numerous blocks, their are blocks of solid granite in Puma Punku that are 800 tonnes when the nearest quarry is 10 miles away.If that was the case then surely we'd be able to understand everything they did

[Alejandro Sosa]

we still dont know how the f*ck they built the pyramids and ur posting pictures of a clapped ford escort

real talkand when u said if we give them a wireless router they wont be able to work it out , thats how it should be because they were before us, but if you give it to someone in the future if they have advanced they would be able to tell you how it works you smigadell me?

[carpedeum]

i think the whole point here is that even though we're more advanced by far today. we only began to really expand technology wise within the last 2-300years. yet, if people had been designing stuff that we cannot replicate today, or understand how it was done, and many of these things are the basis of our information today, and these are things done about 5000yrs ago, then these guys win in a sense.you talk about great structures built today, but you have to remember that things are not just built out of the blue are they?engineering requires an understanding of mathematics and physics, and chemistry to put together what you're gonna use to build.alot of the mathematical theories used for design today, were formulated thousands of years ago.these guys had nothing (or well, they had the angels if you accept that), and if you dont then they had nothing to work from.saying they had nothing applies to egypt and mesopotamia anyway, cos the greeks and romans had egypt to learn frombut they still came out with great things which were too amazing to consider today.

[Vtec]

whatever it was, those ancient civilisations, there culture, influences and teachings got wiped out. to say they aliens came down and helped thats rubbish, (as venom said earlier regarding environment that applies) Whilst later civilisations and countries no where as advanced in utlising there natural surroundings did what they could, and developed there own understandings and technology themselves. and make do with what they have and gradually get there in there own way. Also consider the environment. Eygpt surrounded in limestone and chalk quarrys provided by natural sun and the river nile.Mexico along the same equtorial line, same weather and environment belt for there inca temples.China - great wall of china (though was built a bit a later around 206 BC) same conditions still apply to some degree.Whilst europeans, stuck in europe cold and wet, different mentality and approach to survival and building etc...But europeans still built some impressive buidlings like them massive castles and medieval thrones n sh*t. Without industrial cranes and contractors. just hard graft n labour and toll.

[streets.]

You're completely missing the point. They've made things then that we can't replicate now even though you're championing modern engineering & technology.The empire state building is made of numerous blocks, their are blocks of solid granite in Puma Punku that are 800 tonnes when the nearest quarry is 10 miles away.If that was the case then surely we'd be able to understand everything they did

Nah, I'm not missing the point. The reason there's a big block of granite is because it was before miners mined for profit so they had the time to chip it into shape.If scientists found an area of land that contained 800 tonnes of granite, are you telling me they couldn't shape it into any shape they wanted?PLEASE

[carpedeum]

these things would have been done by explosions not just equipment. we know how we can do this stuff today bcos of what we havebut those guys didnt have anything we had today. thats why people are amazed.

[Flojo]

You're completely missing the point. They've made things then that we can't replicate now even though you're championing modern engineering & technology.The empire state building is made of numerous blocks, their are blocks of solid granite in Puma Punku that are 800 tonnes when the nearest quarry is 10 miles away.If that was the case then surely we'd be able to understand everything they did

Nah, I'm not missing the point. The reason there's a big block of granite is because it was before miners mined for profit so they had the time to chip it into shape.If scientists found an area of land that contained 800 tonnes of granite, are you telling me they couldn't shape it into any shape they wanted?PLEASE

You're defo missing the point, the intricacy & precision of the stonemasonery work at Puma Punku would be a huge challenge to us today and these people were doing it in 200BC.Puma Punku is 4000 metres above sea level, their are no trees so therefore no materials for making rollers to move anything. Yet their are perfectly shaped blocks weighing 800 tonnes. Scientists cant even determine how they got the block to the site.The blocks are made of granite diorite, the only material harder than that is diamond so to cut them they would have needed diamond tipped tools yet these people were just out of the stone age.

[streets.]

Heres my theory-:All the technology on this earth has been built using natural materials. Even man made materials like plastic are originally made from natural substances. I believe that things like telephones could have existed way before they were "invented" by Alexander Graham Bell.

[Vtec]

You're completely missing the point. They've made things then that we can't replicate now even though you're championing modern engineering & technology.The empire state building is made of numerous blocks, their are blocks of solid granite in Puma Punku that are 800 tonnes when the nearest quarry is 10 miles away.If that was the case then surely we'd be able to understand everything they did

Nah, I'm not missing the point. The reason there's a big block of granite is because it was before miners mined for profit so they had the time to chip it into shape.If scientists found an area of land that contained 800 tonnes of granite, are you telling me they couldn't shape it into any shape they wanted?PLEASE

You're defo missing the point, the intricacy & precision of the stonemasonery work at Puma Punku would be a huge challenge to us today and these people were doing it in 200BC.Puma Punku is 4000 metres above sea level, their are no trees so therefore no materials for making rollers to move anything. Yet their are perfectly shaped blocks weighing 800 tonnes. Scientists cant even determine how they got the block to the site.The blocks are made of granite diorite, the only material harder than that is diamond so to cut them they would have needed diamond tipped tools yet these people were just out of the stone age.

remember there wouldn't have been much else for them to do, back then. No distractions, just devotation and dedication to perfecting, there craft for years on end. These guys had tribes/villages and culture relgion playing a huge part into making them fine craft buildings. No TV, no mod con... They just used there brains more and not looking for shortcuts to go watch Corrie or get pissed on a friday nite with the lads...Modern times, is all about slinging up the biggest and best building up in a week. and delivering quality and to budget. Then get pissed on the profitsblame money.

[Aquaman]

streets are u on crack? mans tryna compare things done today/post industrial revolution to discount things done thousands of yrs backthings that historians, archeologists, architects can't even answer today some still would be tough with modern means let alone the times they done it in and thats not even considering that the time frame historians have goven for them being made in wouldve been nigh impossiblehuge facepalm

[Flojo]

You're completely missing the point. They've made things then that we can't replicate now even though you're championing modern engineering & technology.The empire state building is made of numerous blocks, their are blocks of solid granite in Puma Punku that are 800 tonnes when the nearest quarry is 10 miles away.If that was the case then surely we'd be able to understand everything they did

Nah, I'm not missing the point. The reason there's a big block of granite is because it was before miners mined for profit so they had the time to chip it into shape.If scientists found an area of land that contained 800 tonnes of granite, are you telling me they couldn't shape it into any shape they wanted?PLEASE

You're defo missing the point, the intricacy & precision of the stonemasonery work at Puma Punku would be a huge challenge to us today and these people were doing it in 200BC.Puma Punku is 4000 metres above sea level, their are no trees so therefore no materials for making rollers to move anything. Yet their are perfectly shaped blocks weighing 800 tonnes. Scientists cant even determine how they got the block to the site.The blocks are made of granite diorite, the only material harder than that is diamond so to cut them they would have needed diamond tipped tools yet these people were just out of the stone age.

remember there wouldn't have been much else for them to do, back then. No distractions, just devotation and dedication to perfecting, there craft for years on end. These guys had tribes/villages and culture relgion playing a huge part into making them fine craft buildings. No TV, no mod con... They just used there brains more and not looking for shortcuts to go watch Corrie or get pissed on a friday nite with the lads...Modern times, is all about slinging up the biggest and best building up in a week. and delivering quality and to budget. Then get pissed on the profitsblame money.

Come on now, these 'people' have done things that make a mockery of our technology & the work scientists have been doing for hundreds of years their has to be something more to it than pure dedication.And to take the piss further these people apparently did all this without any written language, most people cant put together a flat pack set of draws without instructions and these man are building pieces of architectural genius.f*cked.

[streets.]

streets are u on crack? mans tryna compare things done today/post industrial revolution to discount things done thousands of yrs backthings that historians, archeologists, architects can't even answer today some still would be tough with modern means let alone the times they done it in and thats not even considering that the time frame historians have goven for them being made in wouldve been nigh impossiblehuge facepalm

Ok, cool thats your opinion.But just know that a CD player is more amazing then anything made back in the day.

[Vtec]

streets are u on crack? mans tryna compare things done today/post industrial revolution to discount things done thousands of yrs backthings that historians, archeologists, architects can't even answer today some still would be tough with modern means let alone the times they done it in and thats not even considering that the time frame historians have goven for them being made in wouldve been nigh impossiblehuge facepalm

i dont think he's saying that still.But you cannot not appreciate, modern day built stuff that stands today. Just done with more with computers and sophisticated machines process very quickly.

[streets.]

So basically, you man are saying that heavy shaped stones being placed in certain postions are more amazing and difficult then things built today?

[NO SUNSHINE]

You're completely missing the point. They've made things then that we can't replicate now even though you're championing modern engineering & technology.The empire state building is made of numerous blocks, their are blocks of solid granite in Puma Punku that are 800 tonnes when the nearest quarry is 10 miles away.If that was the case then surely we'd be able to understand everything they did

Nah, I'm not missing the point. The reason there's a big block of granite is because it was before miners mined for profit so they had the time to chip it into shape.If scientists found an area of land that contained 800 tonnes of granite, are you telling me they couldn't shape it into any shape they wanted?PLEASE

You're defo missing the point, the intricacy & precision of the stonemasonery work at Puma Punku would be a huge challenge to us today and these people were doing it in 200BC.Puma Punku is 4000 metres above sea level, their are no trees so therefore no materials for making rollers to move anything. Yet their are perfectly shaped blocks weighing 800 tonnes. Scientists cant even determine how they got the block to the site.The blocks are made of granite diorite, the only material harder than that is diamond so to cut them they would have needed diamond tipped tools yet these people were just out of the stone age.

They just used there brains more and not looking for shortcuts to go watch Corrie or get pissed on a friday nite with the lads...

lol i dunno about thattechnology might have progressedbut human nature definitely hasn't changed

[streets.]

streets are u on crack? mans tryna compare things done today/post industrial revolution to discount things done thousands of yrs backthings that historians, archeologists, architects can't even answer today some still would be tough with modern means let alone the times they done it in and thats not even considering that the time frame historians have goven for them being made in wouldve been nigh impossiblehuge facepalm

i dont think he's saying that still.But you cannot not appreciate, modern day built stuff that stands today. Just done with more with computers and sophisticated machines process very quickly.

Thats what kills it even further, we've actually found ways to do what they done but in a faster way with less people. Yet people are saying they are more advanced

[streets.]

Everything evolves.The Egyptians got their pyramid design from another structure. They found the faults in it and made it to their own specification.The modern day buildings we see today are just a continuation of this process.

[Vtec]

You're completely missing the point. They've made things then that we can't replicate now even though you're championing modern engineering & technology.The empire state building is made of numerous blocks, their are blocks of solid granite in Puma Punku that are 800 tonnes when the nearest quarry is 10 miles away.If that was the case then surely we'd be able to understand everything they did

Nah, I'm not missing the point. The reason there's a big block of granite is because it was before miners mined for profit so they had the time to chip it into shape.If scientists found an area of land that contained 800 tonnes of granite, are you telling me they couldn't shape it into any shape they wanted?PLEASE

You're defo missing the point, the intricacy & precision of the stonemasonery work at Puma Punku would be a huge challenge to us today and these people were doing it in 200BC.Puma Punku is 4000 metres above sea level, their are no trees so therefore no materials for making rollers to move anything. Yet their are perfectly shaped blocks weighing 800 tonnes. Scientists cant even determine how they got the block to the site.The blocks are made of granite diorite, the only material harder than that is diamond so to cut them they would have needed diamond tipped tools yet these people were just out of the stone age.

remember there wouldn't have been much else for them to do, back then. No distractions, just devotation and dedication to perfecting, there craft for years on end. These guys had tribes/villages and culture relgion playing a huge part into making them fine craft buildings. No TV, no mod con... They just used there brains more and not looking for shortcuts to go watch Corrie or get pissed on a friday nite with the lads...Modern times, is all about slinging up the biggest and best building up in a week. and delivering quality and to budget. Then get pissed on the profitsblame money.

Come on now, these 'people' have done things that make a mockery of our technology & the work scientists have been doing for hundreds of years their has to be something more to it than pure dedication.And to take the piss further these people apparently did all this without any written language, most people cant put together a flat pack set of draws without instructions and these man are building pieces of architectural genius.f*cked.

i'm not disputing that at all.But as i've saying before, cultures get forgotten, building methods get forgotten over time as maybe someone comes in and says, "look we can do the same, but for less toil and graft" and they opt for the easier option.Then maybe wars/diseases wipe out a generation, overseas travellers come in destroy what they cant understand and so on... you must catch my drift.

[57 heinz]

streets are u on crack? mans tryna compare things done today/post industrial revolution to discount things done thousands of yrs backthings that historians, archeologists, architects can't even answer today some still would be tough with modern means let alone the times they done it in and thats not even considering that the time frame historians have goven for them being made in wouldve been nigh impossiblehuge facepalm

i dont think he's saying that still.But you cannot not appreciate, modern day built stuff that stands today. Just done with more with computers and sophisticated machines process very quickly.

Thats what kills it even further, we've actually found ways to do what they done but in a faster way with less people. Yet people are saying they are more advanced

thats where u wrong we dont know how they made them they were doing things that our scientists r sayin is impossible for them to do thats why we say there more advanced if i do something that everyone says is impossible to do and u cant explain how i did it i am more advanced then u